Libyans: Gadhafi to be buried in Islamic tradition

Ok maybe I missed something, but why is important to give him Islamic burial? I mean its not like he will come back and complain about not being buried in Islamic tradition. Beside, after killing him why is tradiation so important to be kept? Seem rather retarded if you ask me. Its like saying “we just killed you, but you know what…you get free Islamic funeral”.

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Libyans: Gadhafi to be buried in Islamic tradition
By KIM GAMEL, Associated Press – 10 minutes ago
MISRATA, Libya (AP) — Libya’s new leaders have promised Moammar Gadhafi will be buried Friday according to Islamic norms, a day after his dramatic final hours when the fugitive dictator was dragged from hiding in a drainage pipe, begging for his life as his hometown and last bastion fell to the revolutionaries.
The death, two months after Gadhafi’s ouster, finished off the nearly 42-year regime that had turned the oil-rich country into an international pariah and his own personal fiefdom. It also thrusts Libya into a new age in which its transitional leaders must overcome deep divisions and rebuild nearly all its institutions from scratch to achieve dreams of democracy.
The governing National Transitional Council said interim leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil will formally declare liberation on Saturday in the eastern city of Benghazi, where the revolution against Gadhafi’s rule began in mid-February. The NTC has always said it will form a new interim government within a month of liberation and will hold elections within eight months.
Acting Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril, who confirmed Gadhafi’s death on Thursday, said he will step down to make way for others to guide the oil-rich North African nation toward democracy.
“The forming of the new government is subject to the NTC and I myself will not be part of that new government,” Jibril said at a news conference in Tripoli. “I would like to call on Libyans to put aside the grudges and only say one word, which is Libya, Libya, Libya.”
Other leaders have fallen in the Arab Spring uprisings, but the 69-year-old Gadhafi is the first to be killed. He was shot to death in his hometown of Sirte, where revolutionary fighters overwhelmed the last of his loyalist supporters Thursday after weeks of heavy battles.
President Barack Obama told the Libyan people: “You have won your revolution.”
Although the U.S. briefly led the relentless NATO bombing campaign that sealed Gadhafi’s fate, Washington later took a secondary role to its allies. Britain and France said they hoped that his death would lead to a more democratic Libya.
Also killed in Sirte was one of Gadhafi’s feared sons, Muatassim, while another son — one-time heir apparent Seif al-Islam — was wounded and captured. An AP reporter saw cigarette burns on Muatassim’s body.
There were conflicting accounts about how Gadhafi was killed. Eager to show they were taking the moral high ground, Libya officials promised he would be buried with respect.
“He will be buried Friday according to Islamic custom,” Information Minister Mahmoud Shammam said.
NTC member Mohamed Sayeh said Gadhafi would be buried Friday in a Sirte cemetery, denying reports that he would be buried in a secret grave.
Bloody images of Gadhafi’s last moments raised questions over how exactly he died after he was captured wounded, but alive. Video on Arab television stations showed a crowd of fighters shoving and pulling the goateed, balding Gadhafi, with blood splattered on his face and soaking his shirt.
Gadhafi struggled against them, stumbling and shouting as the fighters pushed him onto the hood of a pickup truck. One fighter held him down, pressing on his thigh with a pair of shoes in a show of contempt.
Fighters propped him on the hood as they drove for several moments, apparently to parade him around in victory.
“We want him alive. We want him alive,” one man shouted before Gadhafi was dragged off the hood, some fighters pulling his hair, toward an ambulance.
Later footage showed fighters rolling Gadhafi’s lifeless body over on the pavement, stripped to the waist and a pool of blood under his head. His body was then paraded on a car through Misrata, a nearby city that suffered a brutal siege by regime forces during the eight-month civil war that eventually ousted Gadhafi, as crowds in the streets cheered.
Thunderous celebratory gunfire and cries of “God is great” rang out across Tripoli well past midnight, leaving the smell of sulfur in the air. People wrapped revolutionary flags around toddlers and flashed V for victory signs as they leaned out car windows. Martyrs’ Square, the former Green Square from which Gadhafi made many defiant speeches, was packed with revelers.
In Sirte, the ecstatic former rebels celebrated the city’s fall after weeks of fighting by firing endless rounds into the sky, pumping their guns, knives and even a meat cleaver in the air and singing the national anthem.
The outpouring of joy reflected the deep hatred of a leader who had brutally warped Libya with his idiosyncratic rule. After seizing power in a 1969 coup that toppled the monarchy, Gadhafi created a “revolutionary” system of “rule by the masses,” which supposedly meant every citizen participated in government but really meant all power was in his hands. He wielded it erratically, imposing random rules while crushing opponents, often hanging anyone who plotted against him in public squares.
Abroad, Gadhafi posed as a Third World leader, while funding militants, terror groups and guerrilla armies. His regime was blamed in the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland and the downing of a French passenger jet in Africa the following year, as well as the 1986 bombing of a German discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen that killed three people.
On Thursday, the final battle began with revolutionary forces bearing down on the last of Gadhafi’s heavily armed loyalists who in recent days had been squeezed into a block of buildings of about 700 square yards.
A large convoy of vehicles moved out of the buildings, and revolutionary forces moved to intercept it, said Fathi Bashagha, spokesman for the Misrata Military Council, which commanded the fighters who captured him. At 8:30 a.m., NATO warplanes struck the convoy, a hit that stopped it from escaping, according to French Defense Minister Gerard Longuet.
Fighters then clashed with loyalists in the convoy for three hours, with rocket-propelled grenades, anti-aircraft weapons and machine guns. Members of the convoy got out of the vehicles, Bashagha said.
Gadhafi and other supporters fled on foot, with fighters in pursuit, he said. A Gadhafi bodyguard captured as they ran away gave a similar account to Arab TV stations.
Gadhafi and several bodyguards took refuge in a drainage pipe under a highway nearby. After clashes ensued, Gadhafi emerged, telling the fighters outside, “What do you want? Don’t kill me, my sons,” according to Bashagha and Hassan Doua, a fighter who was among those who captured him.
Within the hour he was dead, but not before jubilant Libyans had vented decades of hatred by pulling the eccentric dictator’s hair and parading his bloodied body on the hood of a truck.
Bashagha said Gadhafi died in the ambulance from wounds suffered during the clashes. Abdel-Jalil Abdel-Aziz, a doctor who accompanied the body in the ambulance during the 120-mile drive to Misrata, said Gadhafi died from two bullet wounds — to the head and chest.
A government account of Gadhafi’s death said he was captured unharmed and later was mortally wounded in the crossfire from both sides.
Amnesty International urged the revolutionary fighters to give a complete report, saying it was essential to conduct “a full, independent and impartial inquiry to establish the circumstances of Col. Gadhafi’s death.”
Thursday’s final blows to the Gadhafi regime allow Libya’s interim leadership, the National Transitional Council, to declare the entire country liberated. Following the fall of Tripoli on Aug. 21, Gadhafi loyalists mounted fierce resistance in several areas, including Sirte, preventing the new leadership from declaring full victory. Earlier this week, revolutionary fighters gained control of one stronghold, Bani Walid.

Re: Libyans: Gadhafi to be buried in Islamic tradition

errr because he was muslim?

you want him to get a hindu burial?

Re: Libyans: Gadhafi to be buried in Islamic tradition

Peace Shamraz Khan

Every action we take however slight is accounted for in our sins or good deeds ... it was a shame the mobs got to him ... but that was the Will of Allah (SWT) ... it is a shame that humanity needs to kill its own members to achieve certain ends ... it is a bigger shame that we let not mercy enter our hearts ... Yes he was a tyrrant ... but do we let our anger for him dictate our obligations for his burial? Is our anger for him more important than our obligation to bury Muslims in the correct manner? He's dead he can't harm anyone now ... have some mercy, let him be buried as a Muslim ...

We give a funeral so one day someone will do the same for us ... power brings the worst out in many people ... and who are we to know whether he in is last moments was not forgiven? I'm ashamed of Muslims who let their rage take over their civil conduct ... and those people who mindlessly become part of the mob. That is why Islam should be part of our every breath ... because then and only then can we assess what is required from us at each microstage of our lives as it unfolds ...

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Its disgusting how this news story almost justifies each mention of the shameful behaviour by the mob with a tit for tat mention of how he was ruthless, and evil and horrible and just basically deserved it; they were only venting apparently.

Its pathetic really. I'm all for punishing the fellow but any sentencing and execution of a sentence needs to be in a trial. Like Psyah said beautifully in the post above, how much better are these 'revolutionaries'?

Utter bollocks.

Re: Libyans: Gadhafi to be buried in Islamic tradition

Peace psyah,

I don't think dead people care about their funerals. Beside, traditions (religious and otherwise) are important for living not dead.

Btw, looking from far it easy to say why he should not have faced mob justice, but I'm willing to bet that you'd have diff opinion if you have lived under his rule or if your loved ones were killed by him.

Re: Libyans: Gadhafi to be buried in Islamic tradition

Peace Shamraz

I think the dead should be treated with respect - it is not for us to decide what the dead care about ... but what we know is that when a soul exists the body - then that body which has always been the amana of Allah (SWT) should be treated with respect ... that body is the property of Allah (SWT) not the dead person ...

And your opinion of me is myopic ... I'm a Muslim and I decide inshaAllah things in accordance with what Islam says ... not my passions. Besides in the article you posted it was the very rebels who said that they would give him a respectful burial and they for sure lived under his rule ... if I'm not mistaken it was you who were questioning the mercy that the rebels are going to give him a proper Islamic burial - for some reason you did not live under his rule and still want his body to be treated with contempt ... that for me is very hard to understand ...

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Exactly. Burying a dead body is the responsibility of those who are alive, possess the body and have means for the burial.

Re: Libyans: Gadhafi to be buried in Islamic tradition

they way they abused his corpse is deplorable.
I am completely with psyah on this.......I find it very difficult to understand what can be accomplished by disrespecting someone's remains.

Re: Libyans: Gadhafi to be buried in Islamic tradition

Islamic burial? Heck if he had a chance he would've asked his 'ladies guards' to give him burial wash and bury him.

Re: Libyans: Gadhafi to be buried in Islamic tradition

Actually, no. I could careless either way. I was just making the point that day earlier rebels were danging him half-dead on streets & now they think its important that he must get an Islamic burial.

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I know what you were saying ... I'm merely saying that perhaps they recognise the corpse burial is now THEIR responsibility to deal with properly after all that rage has gone from them and they can now think a bit more clearly.

I don't understand why you feel confused that they beat him and then respect his body ... Muslims do these sorts of the things all the time ... quick to enrage - do something wrong - feel guilty - and then find ways to make up for it ...

My initial rant was only aimed at the first point - why are we quick to get enraged and then later on make up for it ... but then again why would any Muslim, one who is far removed from it all, favour beating someone to a pulp, shooting that person dead, and then still insist on throwing the corpse in a gutter ... surely this is totally alien to Islam ... ?

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Simple answer in my opinion is that Allah has not asked us to judge a corpse and decide if he/she should get a muslim burial or not. He was a muslim and he should get a muslim burial thats it no ifs and buts about it.