Re: Liberal Terrorists Vs Religious Terrorists
ok but still i will have to accept that when ever we have to study history of muslims we can not ignore these kings.......
And learning about these rulers is more important to me than learning about our own ancient ancestors..........
Re: Liberal Terrorists Vs Religious Terrorists
ok but still i will have to accept that when ever we have to study history of muslims we can not ignore these kings.......
And learning about these rulers is more important to me than learning about our own ancient ancestors..........
What make these rulers superiors to our ancestors? We should ignore our ancestors because they failed to protect their rights against those foreigners... The foreigners that exploited people in the name of religion and there followers are still selling dreams in the name of 'Nishat e sania'
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Because if we study these kings we can learn more about how islam spread.....
what was the condition of muslims in different part of the world........
we can understand entire culture of muslims......
Re: Liberal Terrorists Vs Religious Terrorists
So can we say Islam was spread through the sword of these rulers? 
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we can not say that but we can not ignore these rulers also..........
Re: Liberal Terrorists Vs Religious Terrorists
But these rulers were the owners of swords, if we say they spread Islam then indirectly we are saying 'Islam was spread by sword'...
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no i am not saying that but we should feel pride in their history..........:)
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no i am not saying that but we should feel pride in their history..........:)
Then we will be left with very small history to be proud at... because most of the time its history for making 'minars of human heads' or history of sending human heads to rulers for getting reward.. I hope you understand, where I'm referring to.
Re: Liberal Terrorists Vs Religious Terrorists
:sid: no brother i should be open about my ignorance can you elaborate please…
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My dear brother, I was referring to our history where just 50 years after Prophet’s death, his grandson’s head was sent to Yazid’s darbar and then this became a tradition.. after ummayads, Banu Abbas continue this beheading and degrading human bodies followed by Timur, who was a Hafiz e Quran, but he had a craving for making towers of human heads 
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oh sorry i missed that reference .............:(
Re: Liberal Terrorists Vs Religious Terrorists
oh sorry i missed that reference .............:(
No problem.. Its our collective approach to ignore such things from our history, because it directly attacks our superiority complexes :(
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no we should face all these demons of our history....so that we should be more enlightened..............:)
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Yes, but sellers of dreams like Zaid Hamid will not let you to be out of their illusionist theories...
A Good point that was raised by Fozia Saeed (24:10 of the video) was that terrorism is not just limited to explosion.. Its probably 10th step of terrorism, the first 9 relate to ideology and brainwashing of people to hate their fellow people, either due to difference in religion, sect, language or culture.
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yes we should be more tolerant..............:)
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See how not learning from history and stick to superiority complex impact a society as a whole.