Let's talk Ahmadiyyat in detail

[muali]

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• apologies to the thread starter cuz my post is not relavent to your thread…*

@zobia

^^ dude sunniz or other muslims dont have a problem…its qudiyaniat itself is a problem. no muslim consider qadyani as a muslim. hopefully u know wats fundamental pillar of muslim.

(i live my life more with shiaz n christians then wid sunni…so better not tell me wat r they n about their faith )

@zobia

brother this phenomenon is one i cant explain to u.
for u i suggest leave everything other research…focus on these two words until u FEEL them.
rest its pointless for me to discuss further.
(though i m very younger than u, but wat i have seen u havent, n wat u have faced i have no clue of dat. but hae i also have faced a lot. i dont call them my destiny nor my luck, tehy r just another step for me to find WHAT I SUPPOSE TO FIND :))
did u ever try to see beyond the beautiful painted canvas infront of u?

who the hell you think you are…???
{edit}**
learn to discuss rather shoving your opinion down somebody’s throat…

[zobia]

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^^ sure if defaming others proves u more mature than me go a head (than it is certainly stupid of me to talk to u).

as u think wat i rote is a teenager thingee, n it doesnt worth while...then y did u believed wat i said for ma age.

Peace zobia

That depends on how much white we mix in it. Then we will get shades of grey. The idea as I'll stress again is not to state that we are irreconcilable, rather to determine where it is that we differ and to analyse that difference to see, in detail what premise is firmer. It is a challenge that is open to the members of the Ahmadiyya community.

lol....dats y i bolded...in black...i didnt say black in some other. kher its technical. k if u go for dat challege obviously i may not stop u...go for dat. BEST OF LUCK !!!

[Mr_Fraudia]

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@zobia

i believe u mean ismilies

n for ahmediz/qadyaniz no one believes them as muslims…n i agree pointless to talk on this topic.
(never try to mix any color in black…it will remain black)

no I did mean what I wrote, that as far as I know shias do not accept qadiyanis.
please go back and read the post again.

[zobia]

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@Fraudz

no I did mean what I wrote, that as far as I know shias do not accept qadiyanis.
please go back and read the post again.

so who accept them (qadyaniz) ?

[Mr_Fraudia]

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@zobia

so who accept them (qadyaniz) ?

errr…I am not sure what you are reading. let me explain it.

let me break it down for you so you can understand

1. people said only sunnis have issues with ahmedis
2. I stated that was not the case because as ar as I know shias have issues with qadiyanis too
3. i further stated that we hear more about issues sunnis have with qadiyanis because qadiyanis are mostly in Pakistan and pakistan is a sunni majority country.

I am not quite sure where you are finding in my words anything about ismailis or about anyone accepting qadiyanis.

Hopefully this finally clears what I wrote and what seemingly everyone else understood.

[zobia]

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k appologiez especially to psyah…brother continue ur hunt of Ahmediz for answerz

(now lets see how many gonna appreciate my this act…unlike ppl like **muali **who love to point out pointless stuff…but dare not to appologize…i have appologize in couple of occasainz b4 too…us ko to app nay copy paste nahi kia )

[system]

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@Fraudz

Problem is 'usually' behind sunnis and ahmedis because ahmedis are mostly found in a region that has a much higher percentage of sunnis than shias. if ahmedis were based in some village in Iran and not in Pakistan, we would be saying the opposite.

shias dont accept ahmedis as far as I have heard and as far as I know.

Shia's have problems with many others.. If you are so persistent then add Shias aswell...
Although Shias are often at the barrel end of Sunnis aswell, considering there a large number of those who would throw the Shias into the Kafir category.
Although im sure there are Shias who dont believe Sunnis are Muslims either.

[system]

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@zobia

^^ dude sunniz or other muslims dont have a problem…its qudiyaniat itself is a problem. no muslim consider qadyani as a muslim. hopefully u know wats fundamental pillar of muslim.

(i live my life more with shiaz n christians then wid sunni…so better not tell me wat r they n about their faith )

Well, I think its up to god to decide who is or isnt a Muslim… Anything else is just conjecture.
Problem is really with Muslims in general who take it upon themselves to label others as Kafir…
Save yourself sister before you go around condemning others.

[hanibal]

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funny isn't it, one started a thread for qadyanis and so-called muslims are fighting among themselves...

[Code_Red]

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^ :)

psyah - I see either they are not interested in this topic or they see no use of indulging in this discussion, *agian. *without any discussion on the topic, i see no purpose of this thread. It will be closed if the trend continues

[zobia]

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@PaKpatriot1

Well, I think its up to god to decide who is or isnt a Muslim… Anything else is just conjecture.
Problem is really with Muslims in general who take it upon themselves to label others as Kafir…
Save yourself sister before you go around condemning others.

thnx for advice…i m learning (dont give a chance to ny one :))…b/t izat zilat ALLAH SWT k haath may hai. (i didnt mind wat u said…just to let u know ur faith should b strong enuf to face ppl like muali…since u gotta face them nyways. :))

@hanibal

funny isn’t it, one started a thread for qadyanis and so-called muslims are fighting among themselves…

wats funny in there?
b/t ya u r right we r so called muslimz…instead of praying n reciting Quran we are wasting time on GS some like me riting n some like others wasting on telling others dat they r wasting time on them

[hanibal]

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@zobia

wats funny in there?
b/t ya u r right we r so called muslimz…instead of praying n reciting Quran we are wasting time on GS some like me riting n some like others wasting on telling others dat they r wasting time on them

I think u took it way to personally, tell me where are muslims, yes i do see, sunnis and shias and wahabis and deobandies and brailvies each trying their best to prove each other Kafirs or non-muslims, so i dont see any muslim amoung these so called muslims.. if u see any then please point out so then i can know that one those are muslims… remember one of the most important attributes of muslims is no matter what, they always stand united against Kuffar.. but what i see here is, instead of talking to qadyanies these SO-CALLED muslims are busy, exploring their on differences.. I see it funny cause how can a muslim declare another muslim kafir. ( now don’t argue that no one have done it, u ppl have done it on number of occasion and going to do it again)

( Allah forbid) if i happend to be a qaddyani, i may have emailed this thread to my fellow qadyanies telling them how stupid these so-called muslims are…

( i don’t know why i have feeling that most of people here will take this message negatively) :halo:

[Pathani]

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[quote="PaKpatriot1, post:2, topic:164200"]

Shia's have problems with many others.. If you are so persistent then add Shias aswell...
Although Shias are often at the barrel end of Sunnis aswell, considering there a large number of those who would throw the Shias into the Kafir category. **
**Although im sure there are Shias who dont believe Sunnis are Muslims either./quote]

Its such a sad state the Muslim ummah is in. Busy labelling each other none Muslims. Its a never ending evil circle.

The thing about Shia and Ahmadis:
Since both groups have or are still persecured due to their beliefs.....they have a far much better tolerance knowing how it is to live at the edge, thus they generally make good friends and subtain from killing each other. The more others lable them as none Muslim and think its alright to kill them in name of Allahjee, thus stronger do they grow in their faith..... It has a reverse affect on them. They do differ on finality of prophethood, without doubt.
One of the top Urdu speaking clergy of Shias did convert to Ahmadiyyat at the time of claimed promissed Messiah. He was the author of: "14 sitarein."

Psyah: Im still searching..... I dont label myself belonging to any specific sect.
I do wish and dream of majority of us socalled Muslims, would practice the examplary tolerance and kindness of Rasuulallah pbuh.

[Croquet]

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so far the thread is wrinkly free i think gs has improved its skills. codey why does it bother u to leave it open? often threads with 1 or 2 replies are left open? dont give it undue attention :smile

[Croquet]

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okay i just wont smile! since i oviously cant

[trooper]

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errr...I am not sure what you are reading. let me explain it.

let me break it down for you so you can understand

1) people said only sunnis have issues with ahmedis 2) I stated that was not the case because as ar as I know shias have issues with qadiyanis too 3) i further stated that we hear more about issues sunnis have with qadiyanis because qadiyanis are mostly in Pakistan and pakistan is a sunni majority country.

I am not quite sure where you are finding in my words anything about ismailis or about anyone accepting qadiyanis.

Hopefully this finally clears what I wrote and what seemingly everyone else understood.

Sunnis say shias are kafir
shias say sunnies are kafirs
shias and sunnis say ahmadies are kafirs
ahmadies say anyone who calls themselves muslims, no one can call them non muslims, hence both shia and sunnis are muslims

[Croquet]

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^? i heard otherwise that is that sunnis are kafir

[zobia]

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@hanibal

I think u took it way to personally, tell me where are muslims, yes i do see, sunnis and shias and wahabis and deobandies and brailvies each trying their best to prove each other Kafirs or non-muslims, so i dont see any muslim amoung these so called muslims.. if u see any then please point out so then i can know that one those are muslims… remember one of the most important attributes of muslims is no matter what, they always stand united against Kuffar.. but what i see here is, instead of talking to qadyanies these SO-CALLED muslims are busy, exploring their on differences.. I see it funny cause how can a muslim declare another muslim kafir. ( now don’t argue that no one have done it, u ppl have done it on number of occasion and going to do it again)

( Allah forbid) if i happend to be a qaddyani, i may have emailed this thread to my fellow qadyanies telling them how stupid these so-called muslims are…

( i don’t know why i have feeling that most of people here will take this message negatively) :halo:

aryyyyy…nope i didnt take it personal…i pointed the fact. (we all r time killerz…dude admit it dat u are also doing the same by calling those who call otherz kafir, a SO-CALLED muslimz.
so now i m thinking r u SO-SO Muslim or Kafi Zayda Kafir?)
n wat u said it is also a fact. instead of exploring r own belief we r trying to tell other dat they r this n not this. kher i dont wana ruin this thread more. i had done enuf.