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Originally posted by FlameZz:
**hey man.... i still dont agree with u
how come they know that, its 9025, or 2500 BC ????
if they had developed numerals, how come we dont see any english/roman text over the vessel???
rest of the result is fine, but i dont agreee with u over the numerals
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I agree with Flamezz
1…I posted a table of numerals that was being in use before (0,1,2,3,4…). did you saw it???
once again I am posting the table. read it carefully.
http://www.gupistan.com/gallery/1/ancient-mathematical-chracters.jpg
did you read the numerals that were being in use in roman empire, and in babylonia??
2… table shows that numbers that are being in use today are not romans. roman numbers were different. now plz tell me what are english numbers? I never saw an english number. if you know about them plz inform me.
3… I am talking about numerals not about the script. everybody knows the script of english, persian, and arabic is different. but the numerals are same. And number system that is being in use today is called arabic number system. ( are you thinking why)
here is the answer of “why”.
the number system, we are using today was developed in muslim world under the caliphate rule. (khilafat, khalif). before islam, these numbers were being in use in the areas of harrapan civilization and were unknown for the west and for the arabs. Under the Umayyads rule from (661 to 750) Islamic territory reached in east to the areas that is present day Pakistan.
education and learning that was appriciated by the caliph. before coming in these lands people of middle east and the other world was not aware of the concept of zero. they took concept of zero from these areas, and started work on these numbers.
In the 9th century, the Arab mathematician al-Khwârizmî wrote one of the first Arabic algebras, a systematic exposé of the basic theory of equations, with both examples and proofs. By the end of the 9th century, the Egyptian mathematician Abu Kamil had stated and proved the basic laws and identities of algebra and solved such complicated problems as finding x, y, and z such that x + y + z = 10, x2 + y2 = z2, and xz = y2. (source encarta encyclopedia)
Ancient civilizations wrote out algebraic expressions using only occasional abbreviations, but by medieval times Islamic mathematicians were able to talk about arbitrarily high powers of the unknown x, and work out the basic algebra of polynomials (without yet using modern symbolism). This included the ability to multiply, divide, and find square roots of polynomials as well as a knowledge of the binomial theorem. The Persian mathematician, astronomer, and poet Omar Khayyam showed how to express roots of cubic equations by line segments obtained by intersecting conic sections, but he could not find a formula for the roots. A Latin translation of Al-Khwarizmi’s Algebra appeared in the 12th century. In the early 13th century, the great Italian mathematician Leonardo Fibonacci achieved a close approximation to the solution of the cubic equation x3 + 2x2 + cx = d. Because Fibonacci had traveled in Islamic lands, he probably used an Arabic method of successive approximations. (source encarta encyclopedia)
you misunderstand it. I didn’t ask it represent 2500 . I said, it is believed by the archaeologist that it was made in between 2500 to 1700BC.
archaeologists can figure out the age of trees, teeth, animals and other things.
these numbers are not english or romans, these are called arabic numbers. arabs introduced them in west. (once again I am showing this picture, now read it carefully)
http://www.gupistan.com/gallery/1/arabic-number-system1.jpg
(this picture has been taken from encarta encyclopedia)
now I am waiting for your response. feel free to write everything that comes in your mind. (You and all other guppies)
names(guppie) of participants.
secret_obsession
Ums
aahmed(the only guppie who took notice of numbers)
AliBeta
Gadha
Shah Jahan: (second time made good point.)
Flame zz
GammaDilation
Mera koi naam nahi
cray Larki
dirty_dawg
pp007
Quasimodo
Thap
tipz
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Flame zz,
I am waiting to see english numbers. plz inform me about them. I never saw an english number.