LeJ leader freed on bail

This is why we need strong anti terror laws. This guy should have been tried in military court hanged by now…but now he is freed?

http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/14/lej-leader-freed-on-bail.html

LeJ leader freed on bail
AP
(2 hours ago) Today

Malik Ishaq was accused of orchestrating an armed attack on Sri Lanka cricket team in Lahore.-Reuters/File photo

LAHORE: A prison official says a militant accused in dozens of killings and the 2009 attack on Sri Lanka’s cricket team has been freed on bail after 14 years in custody.

Malik Ishaq, a leader of the banned extremist group Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, was arrested in 1997.

He has been accused of a variety of crimes, including orchestrating the attack on the cricketers, which left six security officers and a driver dead.

Over the years, the cases against Ishaq have faltered as many witnesses have been too scared to testify.

Jail official Malik Mubashar said the Supreme Court granted Ishaq bail on Monday and he was freed Thursday after he posted it.

TV footage showed hundreds of Ishaq’s supporters greeting him as he left the jail in Kot Lakhpat.

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Regardless of how "strong laws" we have, if government is unable to provide security to witnesses there won't be any justice.

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Unbelievable!!
Travesty of justice. Incompetent police officers probably could not make proper case against him.

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Its called a weak prosecution. The problem is not the laws or the police. Its the prosecutors who can not use the evidence properly.

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When was the last time someone who committed an act of terror was caught and punished for it?

I mean we do hear news like "someone who was involved in XYZ act of terrorism have been caught from XYZ city/village" all the times but we never hear that a Pakistani court punished them and they are serving time or being given death penalty?

I personally think that aside from no witnesses coming forward, our system itself which is backed by politician (from local MNA level to higher up in the district and then province level and then even higher up), religious nuts (starting from the mosques at very local level and going up to higher levels with political religious leaders) who see these xyz culprits of terrorist activities as an asset for their personal/political goals and view them as their foot soldiers and do not want them to be punished more than couple of years in jail. Even when they are in jail, due to their "Status as fighters for the deeen/religion" (example: that salman taseer killer) they live an easy life, people surround them, authorities in jail praise them and make their time as comfortable as possible.

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This guy and his outfit ,single handedly Isolated Pakistan from the International Sports , when they attached the Sri-Lankan
and how unfortunate and ironic , was being given a Hero's welcome by the brainwashed Zombies of his Outfit.

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Not only he isolated Pak from international sports, he also deprived Pakistanis from all over the country from Chitral to Karachi, from rich to poor, educated to un educated, from office worker/white collar to day laborer, one thing that brings them together, only thing that brings smile to every ones faces.

Now look at him, walking away smiling…with thousands of people (that probably pray 5 times a day)welcoming him.


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Not even close. The prosecution is bullied into not sharing all evidence because it would reveal jehadi-military ties. Malik Ishaq was twice flown from his jail to "negotiate" on army's behalf - once with the Lal Masjid goons and again during the GHQ attack. He is revered by the Deobandi jehadi network, which includes the JeM and the so called Punjabi Taliban.

I have relatives who were senior Police officials and know that this is typically the case with jehadis who are arrested and immediately some "special branch" afsar will show up saying "Yeh to apnay banday hain" and these guys get all facilities even in prison.

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True, but the question how many more people will die b/c this sob is out now?

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Hurray!!!

One of my potential murderer is out there... Long live the govt., i have more chances to go to Jannah now... All i have to do is just take part in any Namaz-Ba-Jamaat and the guy and his goons will come and sprinkle the burst of Holy Ak-47... like the good old 90s way....

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http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/19/lashkar-e-jhangvi-and-the-lack-of-evidence.html

Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the “lack of evidence” By Harris Bin Munawar | DAWN.COM (1 hour ago) Today
Supporters of Malik Ishaq who sits in a vehicle, a leader of the banned Sunni Muslim extremist group Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, receive their leader upon his release outside a jail in Lahore, Pakistan on Thursday, July 14, 2011. –AP Photo

We are ready to lay down lives (jaan bhee hazir hai) for the honour of the companions of the Holy Prophet (PBUH), Lashkar-e-Jhangvi leader Malik Ishaq said after he was freed from jail amid Kalashnikov-wielding supporters on a Land Cruiser motorcade. He did not specify whose lives he was talking about. But the Shia know.

The influential co-founder of a Sipah-e-Sahaba breakaway group now linked with al Qaeda and the Taliban received a stipend from the Punjab government while he was in jail, and like other key terror suspects, was allowed to use a mobile phone.

Malik Ishaq had told an Urdu daily in October 1997 that he was involved in the killing of 102 people. He was arrested the same year, and eventually charged with 70 of those murders in 44 different cases, including the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in March 2009. Last week, the Supreme Court released him because of “lack of evidence”.

Among those who fear the consequences is Fida Hussain Ghalvi, a key witness in a case in which Ishaq was accused of killing 12 members of a Shia family during a Majlis in 1997. When Ghalvi and three other men identified Ishaq, he told them in front of a judge that “dead men can’t talk”. Five witnesses and three of their relatives were killed during the trial. Ishaq was acquitted because of “lack of evidence”.

But that is just the tip of the iceberg. A more remarkable case involving the anti-Shia leader from southern Punjab was the bombing of an Iranian culture centre in Multan, also in 1997. Eight people were killed. When investigating officer Ijaz Shafi persuaded two witnesses to appear in court, his car was sprayed with 13 bullets. Anti-Terrorism Court judge Bashir Ahmed Bhatti convicted Ishaq but the Supreme Court overturned the conviction in 2006 because of “lack of evidence”.

In March 2007, the same judge, scheduled to hear another case against Malik Ishaq, was on his way to the court when a remote-controlled bicycle bomb exploded near his car, killing his driver and two policemen. Ishaq was charged with planning the bombing. Two years later, the prosecution’s witnesses suddenly turned hostile. Ishaq was acquitted in April 2009, because of “lack of evidence”.

In that context, it is very surprising that one of the Supreme Court judges who released Malik Ishaq on bail last week scolded the prosecution and said the case was weak. The same judge, Justice Asif Saeed Khosa, was part of a Lahore Hight Court bench that had asked the police to close down cases of hate speech and incitement to violence, against Jamaatud Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed. The bench would simply not accept that Jamaatud Dawa was another name for Lashkar-e-Taiba, because the new name was not present on a certain list.

Malik Ishaq praised the Supreme Court after his release and said justice had been done. And that is ironic. Why do these people refer to the modern secular notions of law and justice when they do not believe in them? Because that is what gives them a decisive advantage. They have access to multiple epistemic devices. They can identify and exploit weak spots in our legal structure from outside, while simultaneously carrying out practices that are only justified in their own context. And that is why they are winning.

The state and its judiciary, on the other hand, insist on upholding the singular letter of law. They believe that is justice. But justice must question itself. Why should we abide by laws when dealing with people who simply do not believe in those laws? Why should we allow them the privileges of our legal system when they are fighting to replace it with their own?

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Got proof of what you state? No your chacha doesn't count.

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Plenty of proof available if you only cared to look for some. Can you tell me where the jihadi attackers captured after the GHQ assault are today? The police released them to ISI custody, but then they disappear only to come back in another attack.

For instance, the brave journalist Umar Cheema was assaulted by ISI goons afterhe published the following report last year:

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CM,

Why would the army send a special plane to fly out a terrorist like Ishaq if he was not an asset?

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This guy has been getting a stipend from PMLN govt while in jail!

As Pakistanis, we have resigned ourselves to living with a truly infuriating level of governmental incompetence. What would cause heads to explode in other countries, is simply met with a shrug of the shoulders here. But even so, there are times when the immensity of the stupidity involved produces a situation where words — at least polite words — are completely useless.
Last week, a gentleman by the name of Malik Ishaq was released from jail. Malik Ishaq was accused not only of being the chief of the banned sectarian organisation, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, but of killing 70 people (almost all Shias) in 44 separate instances of culpable homicide. Most recently, he was alleged to have been involved in the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team.
Despite what it may seem, I do not have a problem per se, with the release of Malik Ishaq. This is because he was only released after either being acquitted or being granted bail in each of those many cases. Malik Ishaq may well have acquired his acquittals through the murder of witnesses and the intimidation of judges (as alleged in some reports), but those are the facts of life in Pakistan’s criminal justice system, as it stands today.
What blows my mind instead is, the revelation that Malik Ishaq’s family received a stipend from Punjab government while he was in jail. According to Rana Sanaullah, the learned law minister for the Punjab government, the stipend was paid on court orders. This newspaper, however, reports that “it was revealed that nor was there any such disbursements during former president Pervez Musharraf’s tenure, nor was there any court order pertaining to the matter”.

Let us recap then. Malik Ishaq is alleged to be the leader of a banned sectarian organisation. He is alleged to have killed 70 people. He is alleged to have had eight witnesses murdered so as to avoid conviction. He is alleged to have masterminded the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team, an attack which perhaps more than any other instance is responsible for Pakistan’s status as a pariah state. And the popularly elected government of the largest province in Pakistan — the one also responsible for the criminal prosecution of Malik Ishaq — not only paid a monthly stipend to the family of this alleged mass murderer while he was in jail but then lied about the reasons for doing so. For shame, Sir. For shame.
I don’t want to bang the outrage drum too much on this because it tends to be a waste of time. Either the sequence of facts narrated above has made you terribly angry or it has not: My frothing at the mouth is not going to help either way. Instead, what I want to ask is this: Why are more of us not outraged? How have we reached a point where public support by an elected government to a man widely believed, and expressly accused, of being a sectarian killer causes no ripples? Even if it is assumed that Malik Ishaq is not a mass murderer, he certainly appears to think that 25 per cent of this country (i.e., all Shias) should be put to death. How have we reached a stage where major political parties have no problems being associated with such a vision?
The short answer is that if you tie religion to political power you create a natural incentive for abuse. Let me explain.
People are always going to fight over political power. And when people fight, they are always going to use every weapon at their disposal. If political power is tied to religious credibility, then the candidates for political power are always going to try and define religious identity in such a way that it excludes other candidates. Given Pakistan’s history and origin, being able to define yourself as more ‘Muslim’ than the other is always going to be useful in political terms. And one way to define yourself as ‘more’ Muslim than the other, is to define the other as ‘less’ Muslim.
This is not an exclusively ‘Muslim’ problem. Instead, the same dynamic exists whenever religion and politics intersect. Henry VIII (1491-1547) set up his own version of Christianity essentially for political reasons and the entire development of Protestantism has as much to do with the political ambitions of the electors of Saxony as it does with the supposed excesses of the Catholic Church. Similarly, the expulsion of non-Christians (e.g., the Jews from 15[SUP]th[/SUP] century Spain, the Huguenots from 17[SUP]th[/SUP] century France) remains a standard feature in European history of kings trying to improve their Christian credentials.
At the same time, there is only so much comfort one can draw from the history of other religions. This is because we kill fellow Muslims in the name of religion today: It has been several centuries since Christians killed other Christians (at least in significant numbers) for being heretics.
Unfortunately, there is no easy answer to be gleaned from European history either. What one learns there is that the only way people stop killing in the name of religion is when they get tired of it. The rise of Protestantism was thus followed by a century of religious wars, culminating with the excesses and atrocities of the Thirty Years’ War (1618-1648). During that conflict, millions of people died and thousands of towns were devastated. In Germany, the male population was reduced by more than half. It was only with the Treaty of Westphalia in 1648 (a watershed in the development of the modern international political system) that the combatants agreed to respect each other’s differences.
Pakistan was born in the middle of terrible violence. Even those who know nothing else of history know about the terrible atrocities of Partition — the massacre of villages, the rapes, the forcible conversions, the trains pulling into stations with only dead passengers on board. We should have learnt then that hate begets hate. But it looks like more killing will be required for us to learn this lesson.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 19[SUP]th[/SUP], 2011.

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^^ Terrorists get stipends from governments, they get flown by army on special planes and get received outside jail with garlands and people carrying weapons openly and yet people like CM want "proof". It is easy to wake up a man who is just sleeping, but it is impossible to wake up someone who is pretending to be asleep.

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Stories like this make me sympathetiic to the army soldiers who carry out extrajudicial executions during pacification campaigns rather handing over scum to out incompetent justice system.

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MS,

It's not just the justice system and it's not just incompetence. You ignore the fact that the army and its agencies are themselves responsible for getting these jihadis out of trouble or to keep them under custody and out of the hands of police or to hide evidence of jihadi activities.

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Pathetic

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Of course I would like proof and thank you for providing it. Its a simple aspect of a functioning government and a mind devoid of malaise where one seeks information from all angles and doesn't believe every tom dick and harry on the internet.