Just a question, how important is it for a husband wife (after nikah has taken place) to get legally married under the law?
if u dont get married legally, under the law ur ‘just living together’ and if u do get married legally ur finally pronounced husband and wife.
Should UK born and bred only be interested in nikah but not the registry?.. Why does every muslim couple gets legally married after the nikah?
Living in UK do islamic laws imply?..or will they be over ruled by English law?
how many of u ladies and men are legally married?..wot was the reason to get legally married?..what if the other spouse refuses not to get married?..wud u be worried?
Please only serious replies, i’d like to increase my knowledge in this topic.
If you do legally marry, the wife will get health and dental insurance through her husband and so will any future children. The wife has legal claim to the husband's estate if he should die. The wife can obtain alimony and/or child support in the case of a divorce.
When you do not have a legal marriage, the wife gets none of these things.
thanks for the input.......i know about alll the benefits of getting legally married, my question is how does that interfere in islamic law?
will a husband let his wife have the dental or health insurance despite being strict to Islamic guidence?
Also i have read if ur not legally married but have a child, (say nikah is done but not legally married) mother can claim who is the father and not register the fathers name on the birth certificate.
i'm confused as to wen can we draw the line beween english/islamic laws?
are islamic laws recognised in Britian? if yes, then to what extent?
I dont really understand the question about insurance...I mean once you get legally married, the husband should be very inclined to add his wife to his health and dental plans - and that should have no bearing at all on Islaam. Its a simple matter of does he want to pay cash for all of wife's medical and dental bills or does he want to have insurance coverage. When it costs about US $500 to get a simple bacterial infection like bronchitus treated, it would be in his best interest to sign up everyone he can under his plan. Nothing in Islaam, as far as I know, talks about health and dental plan coverage.
If you are not legally married and have a child, you CAN claim on the child's birth certificate who the father is and this can be legally binding to the father as far as paying child support. But if not legally married, the mother has no claims on his property or his income other than having him help with child-rearing expenses.
Laws of the Land are not necessarily Islaamic laws. Especially those dealing with inheritance. If a Muslim man dies in the West and does not have a legal Last Will and Testament, then his estate will go to his legal wife (if legally married) and to his children (if established in birth certificate or by DNA testing). None of the inheritance going to firstborn son etc. In USA and I think also in Britain, there is a big separation of "church and state" - the laws are enacted for all, no matter what their culture or religion.
In the USA, the cost is US 5 dollars. Should not be a big issue - I mean if you undertake marriage Islaamically, then you should also follow with marriage legally within the country you decide to live in. Why not?
In the UK, Islamic laws have no standing at all. If you have just a nikkah, you are not classified as being married in the eyes of the UK government.
There are only advantages (such as tax, especially inheritance tax) to getting a civil registry after your Islamic marriage and no disadvantages at all. Also, your car insurance is usually cheaper if you are legally married.
its alot more expensive than $5 in UK though, will let you know the exact cost etc if you want to know Aashi.
i heard when i went to book my registration last year from someone in the office that certain participating Masjids can now do the registry along with the Nikah at the same time, the extra bit is only filling the forms etc there and then or something. it works out to be cheaper too.
Not sure about UK, but in the US, in order for my wife to take my last name, they needed a copy of the marriage certificate (legal document - registered with the county). In addition, I needed the marriage certificate to do the following:
Add her name to my insurance policy
Add her name to my 401K (retirement plan - although I can add any beneficiaries, but I wanted to add her as a spouse)
Add her name to my bank account
Add her name to my stocks account
Add her name to collect my life insurance benefits
Add her name to my auto insurance
For social security purposes
I don't see anything wrong or a big deal with registering with the law office. Not sure about the cost in UK, but it wasn't much in New York (forgot how much I paid). Why do we have to or should really register after nikah? Because you may want your marriage recognized in the eyes of law. Besides, why NOT?
^ Shikra, did she she legally take your last name, or did she take your first naem as her last name (the Paki way to do it), or she goes by that way informally? does state recognize that last naem thing that we do???
Long story. Actually we did both but it's still confusing. Her last name was Shahid. When we registered, we told the lady that she has no middle name and she will be giving up her last name ............. AND............adopting MY first name as her middle name and MY last name as her last name.
So the end product was going to be S Sohail Arshad.
Since the lady didn't have that much space on the form, she put S. Arshad as the new surname. So according to us, according to her university documents, immigration documents, driver's license, and all other documents, her name is S Sohail Arshad. However, the social security card has S S. Arshad. I asked the lady to spell her middle name out but she said normally when girls don't have middle name, their father's name become their middle name and their husband's name becomes their last name. So according to her, wife's name would be S Shahid Arshad, which is not the way we want it to be. She wants to keep my name as her middle name.
Havind said that, once she becomes a U.S. citizen and we have her name as S Sohail Arshad on that certificate, we'll present that to the social security office and then have it changed there as well. Otherwise, if they don't accept it, we'll just do a legal name change.
The state does not recognize the desi way. Informally among friends, community, and when she signs, she goes by S Sohail. She uses Arshad only when it's required. i.e. when her name is asked in legal offices etc.
What about yours?
I’m just dizzy reading it.
So is this the desi way to do it? His first name becomes her middle name and his last name becomes her…last last name. What about her last name? I know there’s no obligation or compulsion to change the last name…but..i dunno
well i finally got my name changed… on facebook.
hey people Islamic Marriage is recognised by UK Law and one doesnt have to get registered with local registrar. Nikah nama is accepted it doesnt matter where you got married.
people just get register to make it more formal according to UK for visa purposes.
I got married in Pakistan, has never done any registration here, and our nikkah nama from Pakistan is accepted as valid marriage certificate by the authorities.
there is catch only if you got married anywhere if decided to divorse that has to be according to UK law.
some over practising muslims here what they do, they register only one marriage and have 3 islamic nikkah for other 3 wives in different towns.
there is also no compulsion of having same surnames or to change it.
It has happened, my brother got married (had a nikkah) but never got aroundt og etting their marriage licesne...after two years and 2 kids (she was pregnant at the time)...they finally got "married"... :D
I got married in Pakistan, has never done any registration here, and our nikkah nama from Pakistan is accepted as valid marriage certificate by the authorities.
That's different, because your marriage is legally registered under the law of the land in a different country - nikkah is the legal marriage in Pakistan.
Aashi's nikkah is, I recall, done in the UK. As nikkah is not a legal marriage in the country she was married (the UK), it doesn't count under UK law.
hey people Islamic Marriage is recognised by UK Law and one doesnt have to get registered with local registrar. Nikah nama is accepted it doesnt matter where you got married.
people just get register to make it more formal according to UK for visa purposes.
I got married in Pakistan, has never done any registration here, and our nikkah nama from Pakistan is accepted as valid marriage certificate by the authorities.
there is catch only if you got married anywhere if decided to divorse that has to be according to UK law.
some over practising muslims here what they do, they register only one marriage and have 3 islamic nikkah for other 3 wives in different towns.
there is also no compulsion of having same surnames or to change it.
What Shak says....a nikkah nama is totally accepted as a valid marriage certificate by all UK authorities and you can get all the same tax,health and other benefits just the same as you would had you married in a civil ceromony in the UK. You can still have a civil ceromony if you want but it won't make any difference to your existing marital, immigration, or financial status.
Just ensure that you get your nikkah nama translated and certified.
That's different, because your marriage is legally registered under the law of the land in a different country - nikkah is the legal marriage in Pakistan.
Aashi's nikkah is, I recall, done in the UK. As nikkah is not a legal marriage in the country she was married (the UK), it doesn't count under UK law.
A nikkah is not the UK's form of legal marriage but it does count under UK, as do any other marriages that take place overseas. As long as you can prove that you had a legally valid marriage in the country that you married in then your status in the UK should be recognised as married too.
A nikkah is not the UK's form of legal marriage but it does count under UK, as do any other marriages that take place overseas. As long as you can prove that you had a legally valid marriage in the country that you married in then your status in the UK should be recognised as married too.
My point is that a nikkah conducted inside the UK is not a legally valid marriage.
What about her last name? I know there’s no obligation or compulsion to change the last name…but..i dunno 
