I couldn’t help noticing but aren’t Indians bit obsessed with finding** Wasim Akram’s** 
replica that they don’t think Right wing,errr arm any more**? **
But then, I could be wrong! 
Lekin baat to kuch kuch sahi lag rahi hai,
Ps: Ehsan bhai,can we please have a “smiley with an arm-sling” ,bohat zarorat hai, 
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Its a matter of 'when it rains, it pours....'. For Indian cricket, right now, its pouring left arm medium pacers.
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You mean kay Balaji ko Indian moonsoon kha gaya! 
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To be honest, Balaji was a fairly mediocre bowler (with a lovely name, ofcourse) jiss ko Pakistani batsmenouN ne sarr pe bitha liya thaa (in 2004 series). We do that to other teams, just to throw them off-balance. Sari duniya mein nakara player, Pakistan aa ke sher bann jaatay the.
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^ Ditto!
I feel that its becoming more trendy in upcoming young talents to 'Bend it like Akram'.
Lekin Why Pakistani youngsters not catching this lefty rujhaan,, I mean look at the domestic circuit, there's hardly a lefty in making?
Feel free to correct me with some potential names. :D
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India do have a lot of left arms
Pathan, Zaheer khan, PR Singh, Nehra, ...
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I am inclined to agree with Faisal on this one. To me, it hardly seems like they are overbent on finding new paws in the face of Wasim Akram, but moreso, they have bowlers who can bowl and pitch the deliveries in the exact line and length where it needs to be, and be able to extract the maximum positive result for their team (which should be the utmost concern).
On watching Straight Drive this morning, Goeffery Boycott did point out this exact instance during his promo, and mentioned that they should at least include one right-arm bowler in their lineup, instead of going all out and throwing their umbrellas on left-arm seamers. Consistency is not only the key, but maintaining different variations and persisting with the amendment is also a huge variable to consider when painting a scenery of this magnitude.
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^ Dhobi_bhai this a good point to a dbate and it seems that very few here on
gupshup have any thing to do with this important left arm phenomina.
Pakistan has unknowingly or may be they are too casual about how they benefited in the recent past from ;
A- Having a pair of Left-handed opening batsmen.
B- A consistant left handed new ball pacer (Akram) with excellent support.
The reason I have opened this thread is to see if someone can spills beans over whats going on on the domestic circuit. I heard few months back that they held some sort of a scout hunt for such talents. Whats happened then?
In the meanwhile we have a team on threshold with 'Left armer' parade. I have nothing against it, but to see Pakistan caught napping not very nice.
Pakistan relies on Shoaib Akhter-Sami-Gul-Shabeer-Rana Naveed & now Asif
and their real test is on 'away games' rather than on daed wickets at home.
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Having left arm fast bowlers used to be fairly unusual - not rare, but unusual. So for India to have four of them at the same time is definitely a bit surprising. However, the focus should be on quality of each bowler, and not necessarily which arm they bowl with. Pakistan, for now, has all right-arm fast bowlers. This is not necessarily a problem, nor should it be something, where the selectors should go out and try to find a left-armer. If you remember, the famous Windies fast bowling line-up in 70's was comprised of all right-arm bowlers. If the quality of the bowlers is good, that is enough. You don't need to necessarily force variety there.
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Yeaaah, but Left Armers have proven it beyond doubt thatthey don't allow most of the right handed batsmen to settle down too easly. Batsmen simply can not settle down to their nagging line and lenght at an odd angle,,,,
My bad! I should have mentioned the vitals and well known reasons behind having a good pace attack led by atleast one Left arm-fast. (much has been written and discussed about it in the 90's.
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I know you are obssessed with left arm :D I mean not yours but of those Akram wannabees. You were so excited last year to learn that we have a lefty in Khalil, unfortunately he only bowls at 2mph more than Afridi. I hope you will find another love very soon.
On a more serious note, the terror that Akram's devatating bowling spread over two decades had couple of factors behind it. He was not only a good swing bowler (cutting inswingers for right arm LBW victims) but he also has and maintained effective pace till end, very strong arm action, clever thinking on each delivery, variation in LnL on will which allowed him to bowl bouncer and lethal yorkers with the same action. He was was full of surprises all the time. Not as diciplined as McGrath on line, instead constant variation used smartly all over his career.
Now do we need a left arm pacer. Yes and he is got to be strong and tough, non-veggie absolutely. But for now, we are doing great with the finds like Rana and Asif to support Akhtar from other sides. Also don't under estimate Umer Gul, if he got confidence of the management and fair enough chances, his erratic cut/swing will be a great asset in Tests. We got a glimps of similar act in Laxman's first innings dismissal by Asif. So righties can be useful if delivered properly.
for India, a righty will add more variety to their bowling. They three bowlers are bowling just fine. The problem is their speed as you (Rainy) emphasis for Pak team unecessarily. Only RP was getting 82mph in few deliveries, otherwise Pathan's average was 75mph which is not gonna do unless you have really good bowling friendly circumtances. A range of 78-85mph with calculated LnL is enough to knock the best batsmen in the world. McGrath has proved it over a decade now.
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I found Pathan more impressive on his 1st tour to Pakitsan. This time around he has been little lacklustre apart from the current Test. Yes! It has much to do with the dead tracks, but still,,,,
Nothing to do with obcession. Its an art form and veriety brings fun and awe
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I definitely agree with the (proven) fact that a left-arm pacer will create an obvious tension, strain and pressure on right-hand batters, and we have seen that theory in action, time and time again, and as a personal choice, I very much liked the duo of Akram/Younis, but the main thing that came out at the end of the day (of all these years they bowled) was the ultimate prize - wickets! If the Indian bowlers are pretty much on the same pathway as they should be (mentioned above), there shouldn't be any concern (a discussion is always appreciated, however). I somehow do agree with Waqar Younis of what he mentioned on Straight Drive that there is at least an immediate need of a genuine pacer in Indian bowling line-up, and even though I would agree that the line and length in most of the deliveries is a pretty straight-forward case (we will look past the necessity of having a leg slip :-), however, if there is just one addition of an authentic (either left-arm or right-arm) pacer in their squad, it would double the amount of pressure and tension created on the batsmen.
I am surprised as there seems to be absolutely no one that has come up on the scenes yet (Or maybe there is, I didn't notice). Someone please mention Agarkar right now!
On another note, does anyone have a clue of what happened to Debashish Mohanty? Any guesses on his speed?
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MUNAF PATEL Right arm FAST…This is the guy I want in the Indian cricket team…
Apparently…is the fastest bowler in India at the current moment…hitting speeds upto 90 mph…
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/32965.html
Also
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/132533.html
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On another note, does anyone have a clue of what happened to Debashish Mohanty? Any guesses on his speed?
Debashish Mohanty was dropped after there was no tournament in Toronto....and his max speed was 126kmph...
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Thanks. :)
Well, 126.........seems horrible on paper. At the time of his inclusion in the squad, I got a tiny chance of witnessing his bowling, and the only thing I remember clearly now was that he used to be smacked all over the park by Afridi. Other than that, can you (or someone) refresh my memory, as to whether or not he was actually a decent bowler?
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Smacking by Afridi should not be taken to mean the bowler is not good. If that were the case McGrath, Pathan, Kumble and many others would have taken retirement many moons ago.
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Neither I am stating the obvious. I actually just wanted to know (for those who actually have gotten a chance to see his bowling) as to whether or not he was cut from the same cloth as current seamers, or vice versa.
:)
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Well, 126.........seems horrible on paper. At the time of his inclusion in the squad, I got a tiny chance of witnessing his bowling, and the only thing I remember clearly now was that he used to be smacked all over the park by Afridi. Other than that, can you (or someone) refresh my memory, as to whether or not he was actually a decent bowler?
Mohanty was a decent bowler with the ability to swing the bowl either ways...actually did get Afridi and even Anwar a few times in Toronto....if u rem the series in 98...India won 4-1 under Tendulkar as captain...
He had sort of "breast-stroke" action...but was hugely unsuccessful in the subcontinent because of unfavorable conditions for his swing bowling...