Lee Or Akhtar?

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Who is the better fast bowler at their peak.
As we all know Shoaib’s performance for the past years has been on and off, somedays he destroys the best batting lineup of Australia and other days he gets whacked all over the ground by Tendulkar and Trescothick.

Lee on the other hand is very similiar bowler, he had a great WC, but since then he has been on the downfall, he was below his standards against Bangladesh on a very lively pitch and he didn’t do any wonders in the tour of Windies as well.
We already know who is the faster bowler, Shoaib outshines lee in that category by reasonable margin, but Lee who I think is a perfect example of fast bowler, his style and action is perfect.

Both of them are very inconsistent but very talented, both have the potential to be the best in the world.

Shoaib Akhtar



Career Statistics:
TESTS
 (including 16/11/2002)
                      M    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100  50   Ct  St
Batting & Fielding   25   37  10   229   37    8.48  41.71   0   0    7   0

                      O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI    5  10    SR  Econ
Bowling             711.4  126  2392   88  27.18  6-11    5   0  48.5  3.36

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
 (including 22/06/2003)
                      M    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100  50   Ct  St
Batting & Fielding   87   42  24   225   43   12.50  67.97   0   0   14   0

                      O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI   4w  5w    SR  Econ
Bowling             669     56  3051  142  21.48  6-16    2   3  28.2  4.56

Brett Lee



TESTS
 (including 25/07/2003)
                      M    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100  50   Ct  St
Batting & Fielding   33   33   5   579   62*  20.67  58.54   0   2    9   0

                      O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI    5  10    SR  Econ
Bowling            1056.1  222  3703  125  29.62  5-47    4   0  50.6  3.50

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
 (including 01/06/2003)
                      M    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100  50   Ct  St
Batting & Fielding   71   30   8   319   51*  14.50  79.75   0   1   14   0

                      O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI   4w  5w    SR  Econ
Bowling             609.1   50  2888  133  21.71  5-27    5   3  27.4  4.74

FIRST-CLASS
 (1994/95 - 2003; last updated 30/07/2003)
                      M    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100  50   Ct  St
Batting & Fielding   61   68  11   949   79   16.64  57.37   0   3   18   0

                      O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI    5  10    SR  Econ
Bowling            1934.5  414  6482  254  25.51  7-114  12   2  45.7  3.35
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Shoaib in Test
Lee in Test (In bold)



                      Mat    O     R   W   BBI    BBM     Ave  Econ    SR  5 10

overall               25  711.4  2392  88  6/11   8/72   27.18  3.36  48.5  5  0
                      **33 1056.1  3703 125  5/47   8/123  29.62  3.50  50.6  4  0**


v Australia            7  214.2   771  20  5/21   8/72   38.55  3.59  64.3  1  0

v Bangladesh           1   17      63   4  4/48   4/63   15.75  3.70  25.5  0  0
**v Bangladesh           2   49.2   190   6  3/23   4/57   31.66  3.85  49.3  0  0**


v England              1   19      64   1  1/64   1/64   64.00  3.36 114.0  0  0
**v England              8  265.3  1032  22  3/78   5/150  46.90  3.88  72.4  0  0**

v India                1   39.3   118   8  4/47   8/118  14.75  2.98  29.6  0  0
**v India                2   69     184  13  5/47   7/78   14.15  2.66  31.8  1  0**

v New Zealand          1    8.2    11   6  6/11   6/11    1.83  1.32   8.3  1  0
**v New Zealand          6  201.3   666  32  5/67   8/123  20.81  3.30  37.7  2  0**

**v Pakistan             3   66.5   234   5  2/15   3/31   46.80  3.50  80.2  0  0**


v South Africa         3   78     257   6  5/43   5/63   42.83  3.29  78.0  1  0
**v South Africa         6  200.2   730  19  4/82   5/129  38.42  3.64  63.2  0  0**

v Sri Lanka            4  121.5   431  16  5/75   7/122  26.93  3.53  45.6  1  0

v West Indies          3   82     246  12  5/24   5/86   20.50  3.00  41.0  1  0
**v West Indies          6  203.4   667  28  5/61   7/113  23.82  3.27  43.6  1  0**


v Zimbabwe             4  131.4   431  15  4/75   7/118  28.73  3.27  52.6  0  0



in Australia           3   93     406   6  4/153  4/178  67.66  4.36  93.0  0  0
**in Australia          15  528    1753  66  5/47   8/181  26.56  3.32  48.0  3  0**



in Bangladesh          2   40.4   125   6  4/48   4/63   20.83  3.07  40.6  0  0


in England             1   19      64   1  1/64   1/64   64.00  3.36 114.0  0  0
**in England             5  120.5   496   9  2/37   2/60   55.11  4.10  80.5  0  0**



in India               1   39.3   118   8  4/47   8/118  14.75  2.98  29.6  0  0

**in New Zealand         3  100.4   314  18  5/77   8/123  17.44  3.11  33.5  1  0**


in Pakistan            8  226.5   762  28  6/11   7/122  27.21  3.35  48.6  2  0

in South Africa        3   78     257   6  5/43   5/63   42.83  3.29  78.0  1  0
**in South Africa        3   95.2   416  10  4/82   4/157  41.60  4.36  57.2  0  0**

in Sri Lanka           1   29      72   8  5/21   8/72    9.00  2.48  21.7  1  0
**in Sri Lanka           1   25     112   2  1/49   2/112  56.00  4.48  75.0  0  0**

in U.A.E.              3   74     220  11  5/24   5/86   20.00  2.97  40.3  1  0
**in U.A.E.              2   41.5   122   3  2/15   3/31   40.66  2.91  83.6  0  0**


in Zimbabwe            3  111.4   368  14  4/75   7/118  26.28  3.29  47.8  0  0


home                   8  226.5   762  28  6/11   7/122  27.21  3.35  48.6  2  0
**home                  15  528    1753  66  5/47   8/181  26.56  3.32  48.0  3  0**


away                  12  358.1  1276  39  5/43   8/118  32.71  3.56  55.1  1  0
**away                  15  461.2  1716  54  5/77   8/123  31.77  3.71  51.2  1  0**

neutral                5  126.4   354  21  5/21   8/72   16.85  2.79  36.1  2  0
**neutral                3   66.5   234   5  2/15   3/31   46.80  3.50  80.2  0  0**







matches won           11  285.5   897  51  6/11   8/118  17.58  3.13  33.6  3  0
**matches won           26  779.3  2663  93  5/47   8/123  28.63  3.41  50.2  3  0**

matches drawn          5  174.4   570  11  2/67   4/150  51.81  3.26  95.2  0  0
**matches drawn          3  100.5   352  14  5/67   8/181  25.14  3.49  43.2  1  0**


matches lost           9  251.1   925  26  5/21   8/72   35.57  3.68  57.9  2  0
**matches lost           4  175.5   688  18  4/63   7/134  38.22  3.91  58.6  0  0**
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In one dayers

Lee
Shoaib in bold



Mat    O       R   W   BB1    BB2     Ave  Econ    SR 4w 5w

overall               71  609.1  2888 133  5/27   5/30   21.71  4.74  27.4  5  3
                      **87  669    3051 142  6/16   5/19   21.48  4.56  28.2  2  3**

v Australia            0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                      **17  124.4   687  25  5/25   3/31   27.48  5.51  29.9  0  1**

v Bangladesh           1    7      23   2  2/23    -     11.50  3.28  21.0  0  0
                      ** 4   25      99   4  2/9    2/15   24.75  3.96  37.5  0  0**

v England              9   85.3   406  19  5/30   4/47   21.36  4.74  27.0  1  1
                       **5   48     251  10  4/37   3/42   25.10  5.22  28.8  1  0**

v India                7   61.5   233  14  5/27   3/36   16.64  3.76  26.5  0  1
                      **14  111     428  19  3/19   2/10   22.52  3.85  35.0  0  0**

v Kenya                3   22      52   5  3/14   1/15   10.40  2.36  26.4  0  0
                       **2   13      48   2  2/17    -     24.00  3.69  39.0  0  0**

v Namibia              1    6      26   1  1/26    -     26.00  4.33  36.0  0  0
                       **1    8      46   4  4/46    -     11.50  5.75  12.0  1  0**

v Netherlands          0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       **2   15      40   4  3/26   1/14   10.00  2.66  22.5  0  0**

v New Zealand         10   74.1   365  18  5/42   3/21   20.27  4.92  24.7  0  1
                      **12   96.2   429  24  6/16   5/19   17.87  4.45  24.0  0  2**

v Pakistan            12  108.2   490  23  4/32   3/18   21.30  4.52  28.2  1  0
                       0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -

v South Africa        11  103.4   535  23  4/45   4/63   23.26  5.16  27.0  2  0
                       **4   30.5   145   8  3/9    3/50   18.12  4.70  23.1  0  0**

v Scotland             0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       **1    6      11   3  3/11    -      3.66  1.83  12.0  0  0**

v Sri Lanka            6   49     234  10  3/23   3/35   23.40  4.77  29.4  0  0
                      **12   96.1   419  22  3/11   3/30   19.04  4.35  26.2  0  0**

v West Indies          8   65.4   319  16  4/33   3/50   19.93  4.85  24.6  1  0
                       **5   41.5   205   8  2/31   2/49   25.62  4.90  31.3  0  0**

v Zimbabwe             3   26     205   2  1/63   1/72  102.50  7.88  78.0  0  0
                       **8   53.1   243   9  2/22   2/41   27.00  4.57  35.4  0  0**


in Australia          30  270.1  1247  53  5/27   5/30   23.52  4.61  30.5  2  2
                      **12   94     427  23  5/25   3/19   18.56  4.54  24.5  0  1**

in Bangladesh          0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       **3   17      69   4  2/9    2/15   17.25  4.05  25.5  0  0**

in England             5   48     264  10  3/63   2/20   26.40  5.50  28.8  0  0
                      **13  104.5   541  19  3/11   3/55   28.47  5.16  33.1  0  0**

in India               0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       **5   40     139   9  2/10   2/18   15.44  3.47  26.6  0  0**

in Kenya               5   42     147  10  4/32   2/38   14.70  3.50  25.2  1  0
                       **4   19.4   104   2  2/17    -     52.00  5.28  59.0  0  0**

in New Zealand         5   33     170   5  3/21   2/51   34.00  5.15  39.6  0  0
                       **3   17.1   102   7  5/19   2/67   14.57  5.94  14.7  0  1**

in Pakistan            0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                       **8   62     321  10  6/16   3/44   32.10  5.17  37.2  0  1**

in South Africa       16  137.2   651  38  5/42   4/45   17.13  4.74  21.6  2  1
                       **7   61     337  14  4/46   3/26   24.07  5.52  26.1  1  0**

in Sri Lanka           3   20     100   5  3/38   2/23   20.00  5.00  24.0  0  0
                       **6   53.1   178   8  3/36   2/19   22.25  3.34  39.8  0  0**

in U.A.E.              0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -
                      **20  161.1   660  39  4/37   3/9    16.92  4.09  24.7  1  0**

in West Indies         6   48.4   246  11  3/50   3/56   22.36  5.05  26.5  0  0
                       **1    7      31   2  2/31    -     15.50  4.42  21.0  0  0**

in Zimbabwe            1   10      63   1  1/63    -     63.00  6.30  60.0  0  0
                       **5   32     142   5  2/41   1/10   28.40  4.43  38.4  0  0
**

home                  30  270.1  1247  53  5/27   5/30   23.52  4.61  30.5  2  2
                       **8   62     321  10  6/16   3/44   32.10  5.17  37.2  0  1**

away                  24  196.5   994  41  4/45   4/63   24.24  5.04  28.8  2  0
                      **32  234.1  1027  53  5/19   5/25   19.37  4.38  26.5  0  2**

neutral               17  142.1   647  39  5/42   4/32   16.58  4.55  21.8  1  1
                      **47  372.5  1703  79  4/37   4/46   21.55  4.56  28.3  2  0**



matches won           51  439    2077 101  5/27   5/30   20.56  4.73  26.0  4  3
                      **49  371.3  1458  98  6/16   5/19   14.87  3.92  22.7  1  3**

matches tied           1    9      45   4  4/45    -     11.25  5.00  13.5  1  0
                       0    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -

matches w/ no result   2   10      38   2  2/38    -     19.00  3.80  30.0  0  0
                       1    -       -   -   -      -       -     -      -   -  -

matches lost          17  151.1   728  26  3/32   3/43   28.00  4.81  34.8  0  0
                      **37  297.3  1593  44  4/37   3/30   36.20  5.35  40.5  1  0**
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You ask a question, and then answer it yourself too. Great.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by ChthonicPowers: *
You ask a question, and then answer it yourself too. Great.
[/QUOTE]

I was about to say the samething....
waissay,, I would prefer LEE,
he is nice bowler only coz he has some brain over his shoulders and the pppl who dictate/use him ( steve and Ponting) are both one of the finest Captains in the world...

6

Lee beter becase shoib talk talk this that!

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^ that was very poor your highness. "talk talk" and "this that" together seemed pushed.

are you losing your touch?
if so, plz only return to KK when you are back in form.

regards,
a devoted follower.

8

it always fascinates me how so many Indians have the time and the heart to come to a Pakistani forum to showcase only their hate. I mean it's just sad.

what say you, Icelander/Tommy?

9

what saying? I no hating. only one person askinged shoib or lee beter. i say lee beter. why lee beter? becase shoib talk bad before boling. you saying is good for shoib talking talking? is why all pakistan peapul also tellingt 'shoib, you go'. etc. so you not sayinged hate etc for me ok?

also I Indian. why caling icelander? is bad word? i donn know

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The Game Responds:

         *Before the Ashes series in late 2002, I would have said Shoaib Akhtar. But ever since that tour, Brett Lee has been magnificent (He was great during the World Cup as well), and is looking to take over the role of the top bowler of his team from McGrath (One thing which Shoaib is not looking to do, you are trying to fill the void of Wasim Akram for God's sake; be freakin' serious about what you are doing!). Both have the talent , but as far as current performance is concerned, Lee is doing way better than Shoaib so far this year. Let's see what the future holds for them. People, That Is All.*
11

maybe

well brother mightbe possible lee is better than shoaib but shoaib is more faster than lee ?
kia manzer hota hai jab vo 154/km ki speed sai ata hai or phir chakka
khata hai 3man ki position per wOw;)
lakin shaoib Lee acha acha hai yai pura cricket world kehta hai.;)

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the thing that disapoints me is that shoib doesnt use his brain for too long ...... its so sad to waste a talent and he is an example i still hope and am hoping that he will get his brain i gear...... and i hope sami matures quickly so that we dont have to rely on shoib too much

13

I personally think Shoaib has the potential and the talent to be the best bowler ever but his 3rd class personality is getting in his way.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
I personally think Shoaib has the potential and the talent to be the best bowler ever but his 3rd class personality is getting in his way.
[/QUOTE]

Some things never change...and his personality is one of them...

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well said :k:

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u asked,,,, whos the better bowler at his peak??

at his peak,,,,, shoaib is much much better n deadlier,,, but we get to see his peak in only 2 out of 10 matches.

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At the Peak… Lee cannot even… touch Shoaibs Steps.. yar…

Shaib is Full Swing is… TABAHI

Although… I like to Watch Lee… He is So Cute… I mean.. Chikna :blush:

18

wat is thsi,,, a fag forum?! hoonh:

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The Game Responds:

       *I think pansy is the word we are looking for, Kakay :). People, That Is All.*
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I think peaking at the right time counts for something, and even though Lee might not be doing well against Bangladesh it hardly matters does it? Fact is he bowled superbly right through the Ashes and the WC when it mattered. Shoaib blew hot and cold as usual.

Lee gave up alcohol to improve as a bowler but Shoaib lacks that sort of discipline so I admire the Aussie for his commitment far more. I like Shoaib as a bowler but for me Lee is the more consistent performer. Both are great to watch anyway.