Laser like hair removal... done at home??

Hey guy’s - i just saw an ad on TV for this product:

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I went to the website and checked it out. Supposedly after using it consistently..it is supposed to give you laser hair removal like results. It using the same sort of light technology. I am guessing this is super new because I have never seen a commercial for this thing ever before. But I am intrigued… especially since it has been FDA approved.

I couldn’t find a price for it… but I am sure it is still cheaper than going and getting laser done. Plus its madd convenient that you can do this in your own house. However… it being so new and all… ill prob wait a while to see what kind of reviews this product get and what kind of experiences people have with it… before i even contemplate buying it myself.

Just wanted to share! If anyone else knows anything about this product.. please do share as well :smiley:

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hm… ok. I guess its been out for a few years now… but the advertising has recently begun! Here is an informative youtube video I found. - product was featured on “Good Morning America”.

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This and the Tria don't work; not permanent.

It's not that new, has been around for a while now and people who have had the chance to use them are disappointed.

If you stop using it the hair returns. There is no permanency; there are plenty of independent reviews saying it doesn't work.

It's not comparable to real Laser treatments in any way though.

In fact, on the Laser boards I frequent, their merits are discussed, as temporary hair removal devices. There's no debate about it.

It's not physically possible to convert professional Lasers in to one product that works for all skin types.

Go for proper Laser treatments; they aren't that expensive anymore and well worth the money.

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Which laser would you recomment stoppit?, I am seriously considering it.

Hi Saadia,

The type of Laser used will depend on your Fitzpatrick skintype. This will be determined when you go for a consultation. Type IV or higher is treated with an ND:Yag Laser (there are a few different companies that make ND:Yag Lasers). I would find a clinic that specialises in treating Black and Asian skins; they usually have more than type of Laser to treat all skin types.

For example, my clinic uses an Apogee Elite system. It's one machine but it has both an ND:Yag Laser and an Alexandrite (Type III or lower).

Please do a search for Laser and my username - all my posts on this subject should come up. It would be worth going through them for more information.

There is a lot a client needs to know before starting. Unfortunately, even if you go to a very good clinic you still need to know things in relation to frequency of sessions, appropriate settings, what is normal/abnormal etc. It's very easy to be under-treated or end up having far more sessions than one needs (great for the clinic though).

Also bear in mind, that for Type VI and higher, ND:Yag cannot destroy follicles with finer hairs (Alexandrite can go a little further). So for example, one wouldn't see much of a reduction on the upper arm. Or if having the legs treated, once the hairs left are quite fine, it's time to stop as more treatments won't do much more.

As an example, I had 6 Laser treatments on my underarms and now finishing up the last finer hairs with electrolysis.

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thanks Stoppit, I will do the search here.

I did once went to a skin specialist doc here and he had a laser (forgat the name) but I wanted to wait till I am over with baby #2 .. still in the nursing phase, waiting for it to finish and I will get it IA.

Thanks for the info stoppit...... inshAllah once I get a proper job... that is going to be first on my agenda...

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Please dont fall for these products they dont work the only thing they reduce is the money in your bank the average machine for a professional service is 400000 at the cheapest so there is no way this would work let alone be powerful enough, I have had two of my clients try this and are left with nothing but dissapointment.The best way to remove hair is togo to PROFESSIONAL place for laser , Please dont fall for these scams I know that when you really wanting to get rid off hair you will try anything the ony guaranteed way to remove hair is by Electrolysis in conjunction with a laser.

There are a number of at home products:
1. Philips: Lumea (IPL)
2. Boots: Smooth Skin Ipulse (IPL)
3. Remington : I-light (IPL)
4. Tria (not sure if this is IPL or what)

Here is a description of the top three products:
Description: "Boots Smooth Skin gives permanent hair reduction in just 6-12 weeks, it is an easy to use hair removal solution at home."

Can be used on face?: Yes

Can be used by men?: Yes

Light energy level: 7 - 10 joules, depending on setting used (some studies say 7+ joules are required to be effective at disabling the hair follicle).

No. of settings: 3

Permanent?: Yes, if you've caught hairs in their active growth (Anagen) phase, the hair follicles will be disabled.

Gel required?: Yes, first tube of Activator Gel is included. Further tubes are £2.99 from Boots.

Estimated lamp lifetime: 10,000 flashes. Replacement handset costs £159.99.

Pros: iPulse Premium IPL technology has been created using unique, patented "square pulse" technology, which gives a controlled, even flash of light energy. This prevents overlapping of treatment or missing spots completely.

Cons: Hair can still grow from follicles that have been disabled if your body's hormones change. Therefore, iPulse still advise to keep the unit for top-ups every few months. No multi flash mode, so treatment sessions can be quite slow while waiting for the lamp to recharge between flashes.

*Description: "Philips Lumea IPL hair removal system uses gentle pulses of light to stimulate the hair root into a resting phase. Hair sheds naturally and regrowth is inhibited. Using it every two weeks enables you to enjoy smooth skin everyday."
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Can be used on face?: No

Can be used by men?: No

Light energy level: 2 - 6.5 joules, depending on setting used

No. of settings: 5

Permanent?: No, Philips Lumea is simply "photo epilation" where it heats up the hair and follicle, enough for the hair to fall out and the follicle to go into resting phase. The light energy is not intended to be strong enough to disable the hair follicle completely.

Gel required?: No

Estimated lamp lifetime: 40,000 flashes, after which the total unit would need to be replaced.

Pros: Cordless. No gel required. While hair reduction is not permanent, treated areas remain hair-free as long as treatments are performed every 2 weeks before follicles have a chance to become active again. Also, compared to shaving/waxing/epilating, you don't need to wait for hair to grow back before treating (thus no stubble and no ingrown hairs).

Cons: Light energy is only strong enough to put hair follicles into resting phase, and not to disable them completely, which is why treatment need to be repeated every 2 weeks to prevent hair regrowth.

*Description: "i-LIGHT safely removes hair for an ultra silky smooth feeling that can last for up to 12 weeks. Plus it’s the first home IPL with a multi-flash mode, making it one of the fastest IPL methods of long lasting hair removal."
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Can be used on face?: No

Can be used by men?: Yes

Light energy level: Up to 6 joules.

No. of settings: 5

Permanent?: No, Remington i-Light does not claim to achieve permanent hair reduction, but rather that it "stuns" follicles and thus suppresses hair regrowth for up to 3 months.

Gel required?: No

Estimated lamp lifetime: 1,500 flashes. 3 replacement bulbs are included. Further bulbs cost £24.45.

Pros: No gel required. Multi flash mode allows for continuous movement and thus faster treatment sessions. Significant results can be expected after a single session, but treatments should be repeated every 1-3 weeks until desired result is achieved (usually around 6-12 weeks). Hair is likely to grow back less dense, lighter and finer.

Cons: Once desired results are achieved, treatments are still required every 3 months whenever hair starts to reappear again. Extremely short lamp lifetime (but comes with 3 replacement bulbs and further bulbs are relatively cheap). Remington i-Light does not have the same "square pulse" technology as Boots Smooth Skin iPulse, so it has "hot spots" which means zaps are not fully even - so you end up overlapping some areas and missing others.

I've read mixed reviews of all products. I wouldn't mind getting these for touch ups once m own treatment is over.

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I hope people pay attention to info in the above post in regards to this being temporary hair removal. These devices to not offer permanency.

At best they will work like waxing only a lot more tedious and super expensive. The cause shedding and the hair stays away for a few weeks then comes back again.

For the TRIA, the spot size is small and you need to do a lot of overlapping, meaning you will spend hours zapping away to cover an area. Burns are reported by nearly everyone who uses them.

I don't think they will be good as touch ups. They won't even cause temporary removal of the fine hairs and I expect that is what you will have left over. You may as well pay the clinic for touch ups once a year, usually these are charged at much less than a full treatment.

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I have an IPL machine at home, if anyone wants it they can have it for nothing.. cost me £2500 from Ebay a couple of years back but I never even got round to using it.. apart from hair removal it apparently treats pigmentation and other stuff (I still have all the treatment filters, goggles etc). I can't guarantee it works tho as I never used it but as I don't want payment (too much stuff at home I need to get rid of all my clutter) there's nothing to lose.. Hmmm, this should prob be in the bazaar section but i just read the thread title and it reminded me of my own machine so if a mod wants to move that's ok..

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^ Deeba, is it even safe for someone who hasn't been trained to operate this?
Isn't it like letting toddlers play with fire?

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^It’s an ‘at home’ machine (but a v.pricey version), like the machines already mentioned by dooree above :slight_smile:

Agreed. the reason being that no laser has been approved for permanent hair removal by the FDA. the only thing that has been approved is electrolysis. so they are bound by law to say it is temporary

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Laser has been classified as **permenent reduction **by the FDA. Meaning that it can give you a permanent reduction of hairs but not permanent total hair removal. This is because (as I keep labouring), it has only shown proven results on thick, dark hair.

Electrolysis can work on any type of hair, any colour of hair and any type of skin.

These devices don't offer permanency full stop. Professional Laser (GOOD professional Laser), can permanently rid you of 80-95% of, for example, leg hairs, providing you are a suitable candidate (and the hairs are). Where one has exclusively coarse, dark hairs, it's possible to get almost close to 100% permanent removal.
These devices work like other types of temporary hair removal, in that when you stop using them the hair will come back.

They have been around for a while now, I know a lot of people who have tried them out. If they offered permanent results, they would have revolutionised hair removal. It's cheaper, more effective and a better use of time to go for professional Laser.