I saw this article and, realizing that the USA refused to sign the treaty on landmines, wondered if they will clear the field later??
I hope sincerely that they do clean up.
The soldiers said they were digging trenches, laying mines around camps and camouflaging vehicles, but that the aerial and artillery bombardment on Iraqi positions in and around Baghdad would continue unabated.
i thought the US had signed the Ottawa Treaty banning landmines - was i wrong ?
i am not certain whether the landmines in Afghanistan have even been cleared up, whereas Iraq has already been a second testing ground. Long after the American and British soldiers have left this country, Iraqi children by their generations will be paying the price for this illegal invasion with amputated limbs. i guess this is all part of the liberation package.
If I'm not mistaken US forces do use mines for Korea? i.e. along the 38 parallel?
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If I'm not mistaken US forces do use mines for Korea? i.e. along the 38 parallel?
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i just did a quick check Malik, and it appears as though you are indeed accurate. They are still utilized in Korea, where the US apparently keeps quite a large stockpile of landmines.
Landmines don't discriminate between a curious two year old toddler who will pick up objects lying on the ground, versus soldiers. i am really disgusted by any country that would continue to use these weapons - moreso, i think, if that country trumpets its ideals of human rights and freedom on a 24 hour basis. Why don't they just sign the bloody treaty - now they are using them in Iraq as well to create a generation of limbless Iraqi children.
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i just did a quick check Malik, and it appears as though you are indeed accurate. They are still utilized in Korea, where the US apparently keeps quite a large stockpile of landmines.
Landmines don't discriminate between a curious two year old toddler who will pick up objects lying on the ground, versus soldiers. i am really disgusted by any country that would continue to use these weapons - moreso, i think, if that country trumpets its ideals of human rights and freedom on a 24 hour basis. Why don't they just sign the bloody treaty - now they are using them in Iraq as well to create a generation of limbless Iraqi children.
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Thats not all they make mines look like toys and you know why.. And they call us savages.
Well why would they care about limbs when they weren’t bothered about unborn babies? According to this report, Iraqi children are still dying to this day from cancer linked to the depleted uranium shells fired into Baghdad during the last Gulf War.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12776744&method=full&siteid=50143
**I have walked the city’s streets, along a road blown to pieces by a US missile. The casualties were children, of course, because children are everywhere. I held a handkerchief over my face as I stood in a school playground with a teacher and several hundred malnourished youngsters.
The dust blew in from the southern battlefields of the 1991 Gulf War, which have never been cleaned up because the US and British governments have denied Iraq the specialist equipment.
The dust, Dr Jawad Al-Ali told me, carries “the seeds of our death”. In the children’s wards of Basra’s main hospital, deaths from a range of hitherto unseen cancers are common and specialists have little doubt that up to half the population of southern Iraq will die from cancers linked to the use of a weapon of mass destruction used by the Americans and British - uranium tipped shells and missiles.**
Landmines are savage.
But to be fair, Iraq has laid em out also, so the rumors say.
I think they would clean them up after the war. I would hope they would.
Not one voice here said anything about Pakistani and their mine laying habits, why am I not surprised?
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Not one voice here said anything about Pakistani and their mine laying habits, why am I not surprised?
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Why UTD shouldn't amreeka take the lead.... Oh I see you are right amreeka is exempt....
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Why UTD shouldn't amreeka take the lead.... Oh I see you are right amreeka is exempt....
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I see your compelled like many to put America before everyone else when it comes to morality, which is understandable. I'm please to say that under a Clinton directive land mine use by the U.S. would be stopped with exception to the Korean boarder by the end of this year.
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I see your compelled like many to put America before everyone else in the way of morality, which is understandable. I'm please to say that under a Clinton directive land mine use by the U.S. would be stopped with exception to the Korean boarder by the end of this year.
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why not its Amerika who crows CTBT from roof tops and when push comes to shove it chickens out... So why not with land mines.....
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Not one voice here said anything about Pakistani and their mine laying habits, why am I not surprised?
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It doesn't matter who lays the landmines. Whether it's Pakistan, Australia, or the US, it's wrong. Period.
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i thought the US had signed the Ottawa Treaty banning landmines - was i wrong ?
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Clinton refused to sign.
I can but hope that the USA forces mark and lift all mines before they leave the area.
AAG: Remember that the USA forces is an invading force and not defending force like the Iraqi. There is no compulsion on invaders to clean up since they don't live there. They might not even mark it for others.
Laying mines on your own territory and that in another nation state are different. Your people usually know where the mines are. An iraqi child running after a ball doesnt know that some american laid death infront of him.
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Laying mines on your own territory and that in another nation state are different. Your people usually know where the mines are. An iraqi child running after a ball doesnt know that some american laid death infront of him.
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OUCH.
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*Originally posted by The Old Man: *
Clinton refused to sign.
I can but hope that the USA forces mark and lift all mines before they leave the area.
AAG: Remember that the USA forces is an invading force and not defending force like the Iraqi. There is no compulsion on invaders to clean up since they don't live there. They might not even mark it for others.
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I'm hoping for a Marshall Plan I guess.
Oldman? I think important to listen to your words. I have never seen a time when your words were not wise.
Wisdom is needed.
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....before they leave the area......
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Leave? what are you talking about?
How many soccer games do North Korean children play in the DMZ each week?
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How many soccer games do North Korean children play in the DMZ each week?
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may be you should liberate NK and we will find out..
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How many soccer games do North Korean children play in the DMZ each week?
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Why dont you ask the Iraqi kids that?