For a long time I am watching these obsessions of the strangest kind being discussed again and again here . As majority of member don’t live in Pakistan. I am giving you some valuable insight from a purely Pakistani perspective
Obsession with Hijaab/Hijaabans
Hijaabans is a quite an unknown expression, and hijab is nothing more than a part of dress.(I knew it as scarf ). Ladies wear all kind of dress but there is no classification on the basis of dress. Hijab wearing girl is no holier than any other girl wearing any modest dress. And it is none of the business for anyone else and certainly not a big deal for girls either.
Hijaab seems to be the yardstick for modesty here, which is quite an exaggeration.
Obsession with gays (male homosexuals)
Some time ago I read someone asking here
Is it normal for boys holding hands in Pakistan ?
Gay lifestyle is virtually non-existent in Pakistan. So if you see some good looking Pakistani guy and you say Ohh ! he looks gay it would not mean anything at all. And it will be pretty dumb comment as well.
Even there is no proper word in urdu for it . :-\
It certainly does not mean that they are unaware of what is happening around the world.
But thank God they still have their eyes on girls alone.
For those who get some news of some incidents, please don’t confuse acts of sodomy or child molestation with homosexuality
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Gay lifestyle is virtually non-existent in Pakistan.
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Should we focus on "virtually" or "non-existent". I certainly hope and expect only a fraction of Pakistan's population be homosexual, but I am not sure if thats the case, and thats probably its so frowned upon, that a lot of this activity is totally under cover. Though that doesn't automatcially mean that its not there.
Hijaabans is a quite an unknown expression, and hijab is nothing more than a part of dress.(I knew it as scarf ). Ladies wear all kind of dress but there is no classification on the basis of dress. Hijab wearing girl is no holier than any other girl wearing any modest dress. And it is none of the business for anyone else and certainly not a big deal for girls either.
Hijaab seems to be the yardstick for modesty here, which is quite an exaggeration.
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lol this is a very recent, and modern phenomenon, not very common when our parents were young. My father believes the hijaab is a cultural and traditional dress of the Arabs, and so do many of his generation Pakistanis. Is this the Arabisation of the Islamic world?
Seeing guys hold hands in Pakistan is pretty normal (well, at least that’s what I observed). To me, it doesn’t mean that they are homosexual. I just thought it was an acceptable thing to do there; just like how you will see three guys squeezed onto the same motorcycle. I don’t think we can equate that to homosexuality.
Excellent thread though … … I look forward to reading your other observations.
So true Mehnaz. All men look gay in Pakistan. Ok that was a generalisation. Chalo most men lok gay in Pakistan. Especially the ones you come across in bazaars. I think most people there r bisexual cos they have a wife back home too.
MehnazQ- Guys are like that for centuries, it was normal for ages in every part of the world. Now it looks strange to you just because media in your part give so much attention/projection to Gay lifestyle.
cat-woman- Whatever it is, why it is associated with holiness.Ok dress what you like why so much hype about it. It is like whole subject. Like there is a huge difference between a hijabi girl and a normal muslim girl.
Faisal- That fraction is Bisexual, I beleive. I have yet to hear about pure homosexuals here.
Marry thy brother, bear the fruit of forbidden love
In the year 1997, some Gora NGO carried out a survey to find out the intensity of Child molestation in Pakistani society. Along with other findings they reported that around 60% of the subjects they studied were either involved in incest or they are born out of an incestuous relationship. :rotato:
They clarified later on for mistakenly taking sexual relationship between cousins as incest, which is allowed under Islamic law.
It is pretty, surprising for me that majority of people born or raised outside Pakistan, think cousin marriage is wrong, disgusting and should not take place at all.
Well, if you don’t want to marry in family I have not problem with this. But imposing that this is wrong (on God knows what basis) is bit too much. Of course you can’t undo your parent’s marriage, for which 50%chances are they were relatives.
And If you think Allah Taala was wrong in allowing that, then pray for your next reincarnation, in some other religion