Kurds will not take part in U.S.-led war says Iraqi Kurdish leader

Quite a significant rebuff, considering the Kurdish cause is always a great propoganda tool for the American regime.

http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/news.asp?ArticleID=75648

Kurds will not take part in U.S.-led war - Barzani

The United States will not use areas under Kurdish control in a war against Baghdad, said Massoud Barzani, President of the Kurdistan Regional Government in Northern Iraq. “We are not in favour of a war,” he told Gulf News in an exclusive interview yesterday. “If there were any other means to achieve the same goal, we would rather do that.” In response to a televised threat by Iraq’s Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz, who said Baghdad would attack any government that assists the U.S. in taking military action against the ruling regime, Barzani said: “No government can stop the U.S. from reaching any goal… (But) no attack will be made from Kurdish-controlled areas.” He also cited one reason why it would be “very difficult” for the Kurdish militias to take part in a military offensive against Baghdad. “We don’t intend to move our troops outside of Kurdish-ruled areas, and within this region, there are no targets for us to hit,” he said.

In the run-up to a probable U.S.-led military action against the Baghdad regime, the Kurdish role in the process has been much debated. Kurdish politicians have vehemently insisted that the Americans have made no promises to the Kurds in exchange for their assistance in overthrowing Iraqi President Saddam Hussain. In the midst of these tensions, Barzani regretted that the international media, as well as local inhabitants, are apt to misinterpret routine military training operations. There have been a slew of reports in the press claiming the Kurdish militias have intensified their training in preparations for war. Barzani, who is also leader of the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), denied recent reports hinting that Kurdish troops were mobilising in Harir, northeast of Arbil. “It is actually very strange,” he said, laughing. “The situation is rapidly developing in such a way that any move we make is subject to misinterpretation.”

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**Kurds will not take part in U.S.-led war - Barzani
* The United States will not use areas under Kurdish control in a war against Baghdad, said Massoud Barzani, President of the Kurdistan Regional Government in Northern Iraq. "We are not in favour of a war," he told Gulf News in an exclusive interview yesterday. "If there were any other means to achieve the same goal, we would rather do that."
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Significant that this is coming from Barzani, leader of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, himself.
Will Bush et al listen to their favourite people, the Kurds, whose leader states that they are "not in favour of a war"?

Maybe the Kurds are wary this time because they remember too well what occurred last time an American President ordered Hussein's enemies to rise up against him.

What will be the effects of a war upon the Kurdish regions - particularly if Barzani does actually refuse permission for US forces to use Kurdish land. Bringing in humanitarian supplies via road from Baghdad might present logistical problems - especially if (or when) all the country's main infrastructures are destroyed.

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Significant that this is coming from Barzani, leader of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, himself.
Will Bush et al listen to their favourite people, the Kurds, whose leader states that they are "not in favour of a war"?

Maybe the Kurds are wary this time because they remember too well what occurred last time an American President ordered Hussein's enemies to rise up against him.

What will be the effects of a war upon the Kurdish regions - particularly if Barzani does actually refuse permission for US forces to use Kurdish land. Bringing in humanitarian supplies via road from Baghdad might present logistical problems - especially if (or when) all the country's main infrastructures are destroyed.
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Indeed. The Kurds remember to well how they were used by the Americans in the 1970's against Saddam, then left to his mercy when they had achieved their aims. They are also aware how the Americans abandoned the Shia's to Saddam's mercy, after encouraging them rise against Saddam.

I believe the Iraqi Kurds are content with the present geo-politcal limbo in Northern Iraq, where they can rule themselves almost wholly short of outright independence, and not really having to take any orders from Baghdad. Post-Saddam that will change, and they will lose many of the trappings of their "idependence", and have to sign upto some local autonomy within some sort of 'federal Iraq', much less than they have now.

Take away the no fly zone and see what happenes to those kurds

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Take away the no fly zone and see what happenes to those kurds
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'Those Kurds' huh? Sounding a little bitter, that the Kurds are not gonna help your country out?

Anyway, I think the Kurds know full well of the repeated American betrayel of the Kurds and Shias of Iraq, and leaving them to Saddam's mercy when they have achieved their selfish aims.

U.S. Team Visits Airstrip Repaired by Kurds, Fueling Talk of War
By C. J. CHIVERS

AKRAJO, Iraq, Jan. 22 — An intelligence team from the United States visited a large asphalt airstrip in the Kurdish-controlled zone of northern Iraq today, even as Kurdish laborers and soldiers were preparing the strip for aircraft and building infantry bunkers around it.

The visit, and the recent improvements at this long neglected Iraqi military airfield, were regarded here as further signs of preparations inside Iraq for war against Saddam Hussein.

The airstrip is at the edge of an extensive military complex abandoned when Iraq withdrew its forces from the Kurdish region in 1991. It is about a 30-minute drive from the current front lines with the Iraqi Army, and within an hour of Kirkuk, an industrial city, rich in oil and petroleum infrastructure, still controlled by Mr. Hussein.

Work has been continuing at the airfield since Saturday, when two firetrucks from the nearby city of Sulaimaniya were sent to Bakrajo and began spraying its surface with water, removing a coating of caked mud and gravel and exposing the asphalt below.

Municipal workers have followed in the days since, blowing away small bits of dust and gravel with pressurized air and grading the dirt along the airfield’s edges. About two dozen workers were on the field on Tuesday, with a contingent of Kurdish soldiers who were building a crescent of infantry fighting positions where a dirt road provides access.

The work so far has hardly been secretive. Bakrajo is on the main road into Sulaimaniya, and the workers and their vehicles are in plain view of bustling traffic.

Still, Kurdish officials have been circumspect in discussions about the sudden activity, trying to tamp down suggestions of American military interest, even as residents of Sulaimaniya, aware of the recent work, have been saying that American interest is clear.

Simko Diyazee, chief of staff for military forces of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, which controls the eastern Kurdish zone, said he was unaware of any specific military intentions.

**“We are getting prepared for the coming war, getting trained and ready to face any critical situations,” he said. “But it doesn’t mean America is planning to use this airfield.”

Speaking of the work at the field, he said, “We are just doing it for ourselves.”

When reminded that Kurds do not have airplanes, the chief of staff allowed himself a broad smile. **

The American team visited in the morning and left in a convoy of sport utility vehicles at about 11 a.m. Security was tightened during the team’s visit, and a detachment of the elite guards of Jalal Talabani, the leader of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, remained afterward and forbade access to the field.

The guards said they had been ordered by the Kurdish liaison to the American team to close access to the field indefinitely. Until this morning the airfield had been lightly guarded and accessible to the public.

More bunkers were being built today, and Kurdish officials said further work was planned.

“The condition of the airfield is good, but the access road is in ruins,” said Yadgar Muhammad Jaff, director of Sulaimaniya’s civil defense department, who supervised the strip’s initial cleaning. “So I suggested that we repair the road, and they’re going to do that, to pave it.”

Another Kurdish official said that the airstrip was to be upgraded soon with lighting and a tower and that its asphalt would be patched.

Bakrajo is one of several airfields in the Kurdish-controlled zone, part of a network of aviation infrastructure that includes a concrete strip in in the region’s strategic center, in Harir, and strips in Bamarni and Erbil.

There is also an asphalt helicopter field in Tanjaro, just west of Sulaimaniya, although that field remained in poor condition today, covered with trash, stones and sheep droppings.

The field at Bakrajo offers unmistakable military utility. It is roughly two miles long, long enough for landings by heavily-laden transport aircraft, including the C-17, C-141 and C-130, or for use as an emergency strip for fighter or attack jets damaged over Iraq.

“A combat-loaded C-17, with 72 tons of cargo, could land in half of that runway,” said Paul Jackson, editor of Jane’s All the World’s Aircraft.

A tour of the field on Tuesday showed that it has emerged largely undamaged from its layer of dirt and mud, although one long section of the strip is not paved with as many layers of asphalt as the rest — a condition roughly equivalent to one lane on a highway being about an inch-and-a-half lower than the others. Mr. Jackson said this defect would not limit its military use. A Kurdish official said the anticipated repairs would soon correct this uneven surface nonetheless.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/23/international/middleeast/23KURD.html

Yea Right.

What are the differences (if any) between the Kurdistan Democratic Party vs. the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan? Are they two separate parties with differing political objectives?

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What are the differences (if any) between the Kurdistan Democratic Party vs. the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan? Are they two separate parties with differing political objectives?
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The Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP) is headed by Masood Barzani, son of the legendary Kurdish leader Mustapha Barzani who first took up arms against the Iraqi government for an independent Kurdistan in the 50's and 60's. Jalal Talabani, heads the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), rebelled against Mustapha in the mid-1960’s, and fought alongside the Iraqi government against Barzani and his forces. That is the real root cause of the conflict between the KDP and PUK, which erupted into civil war in Iraqi Kurdistan after 1992. The KDP has always been the more nationalist of the two, seeing an autonomous Iraqi Kurdistan within a federal Iraq as merely a stepping stone to eventual independence, and it was historically the more pro-American – Mustapha Barzani died in exile in the United States. While the PUK is content with just autonomy, and has always been the most “pro-Iraqi”, and Talabani has been prepared to deal with Saddam to achieve this. I think the support of the two is pretty evenly matched, as shown by the elections in the early 1990’s and the equal amount of territory both sides control?