I heard we can eat it…
can anyone provide the sources?
I heard we can eat it…
can anyone provide the sources?
Re: Kosher Food/Meat
kosher meat uncooked 100% halal
Kosher food 2nd best to halal
now emm lets elope … people here will start throwing kosher tamatar and eggs on us any time ![]()
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Jews process Kosher similar to the way Muslims process our animals for food!
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hmmmmmm craving for KFC!? ![]()
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Kosher is permissible as far as it is done according to the teachings of the Torah/Talmud … Incidentally, according to Mufti Taqi Usmani, the only Kosher which is permissible in the light of Quran is the one done by Orthodox Jews. The difference is that when they slaughter animals in group, they take the name of God on each animal rather than the tradistional kosher that suggests to take the name of God once, and then slaughter all of the animals.
Having said that, bear in mind that this fatwa belongs to three school of thought except School of Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal:rehm:, according to whom regardless how the animal is killed, if it is done by people of the book, it is permissible. I, myself, do not find it convincing for the reasoning of others sounds more strong to me than this one.
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i always wanted to know that.........thanks.:)
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What if you don’t know which school of thought you belong to?
Honestly I never heard of these school of thoughts before coming to this site
so I am confuse…isnt there any hadith or Quranic verse that briefly explain this?
p.s: all that time I thought you are sadaf aunty ![]()
Re: Kosher Food/Meat
There is no such thing to think one school of thought to be correct than others. All school of thoughts are correct and in the following of Sunnah. The only thing is to see the context and time of that period when something was practiced by the prophet:saw: or was not forbidden but later was… …
The best thing is that you seek for strong reasoning [daleel] and stick to it.
Take this example of eating meat of People of the book…
Those who give reasoning that regardless of the way animal was slaughtered, as long as it is from the people of the book, it is permissible because Allah:swt: says in Quran:
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‘Today I have made permissible for you pure things and the food of those who were given the Book (Ahlul-Kitaab) is also Halaal for you’. (5:4)
What they forget is that One part of Quran explains others. So, it is compulsory to take Quran as a whole and in context than what one desires in heart. This matter is also discussed another place:
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**‘Do not eat unless Allah’s name has been taken and this (not taking Allah’s name) practice is transgression’ (6:121) **
If you take both ayahs in consideration, you will see that the first ayah permits the Zabeeha of Peopel of the Book whereas, the ayah quoted after that commands not to eat if “Allah’s name is not taken.” It can then be concluded that Zabeeha of Ahl-e-kitaab is permissible but only when Allah’s name is taken on it. With this rule of thumb, a slaughter by a Mushrik is altogether haram.
It is also noted that taking name of Allah, means at the time of slaughter. There is an incident where prophet:saw: accepted meat from mushrik and told not to ask and just say Bismillah and eat… This is the argument that is given normally to rebuttal the above. In this case you have to look two things:
When did this incident happen? Before the revealation of the ayah or later? i.e. Context.. get my drift?
What was the practice of Prophet:saw: [Sunnah] when slaughtering animals. It is recorded that he:saw: used to take Allah’s name before slaughtering…
Miraculously, taking the above two ayahs and extracting the result out of those can also be understood with Quran as well. You know in Quran, there are several places where Allah:swt: mentioned that He ordered angels to prostrate before Adam (AS), everyone did but the Iblees… This gives a doubt that Iblees was an angel… whereas, In surah Kahaf, it is explicitly mentioned that every one prostrate but the Iblees and he was one of the Jinns…
You see, there is no contradiction but at other places it was not mentioned that he was a jinn but since he was the part of the community of angels, and Allah ordered the whole community of angels to bow down, that included him too…
Hope, it cleared the answer ![]()