apparently these idiots think that just randomly killing 1 person is going to all the sudden scare off the countries who are in Iraq.
i really wonder what’s going to happen with South Korea - the people are really against the war - the government really has to play politics so that a riot won’t break out in Korea - i think there will be pleas to remove all south korean troops - something the government said they wouldn’t. - South Korea just commited 3000 troops to Iraq which would make them the 3rd behind US and Britain.
i think the aim is to scare them silly. its not that they will run off right away (they may) but to actually make them think if all this siht is worth it after all. what the heck are south koreans doing in iraq, anyway? they are there on the invitiation of the big grand daddy of all, who can't stop three masked men chopping the head of an innocent man. and this will be the second such publicized case in iraq, alone.
I think these Insurgent/Jerks are miscalculating the effect of these beheadings. What could they be thinking? That the world will become more sympathetic to their causes? That they will be viewed as noble fighters?
I think it is more likely to galvanze opposition against them.
And where are all the frikin' people who were screaming about the Geneva conventions? Kidnapping people FOR THE PURPOSE of beheading them? If this is not the face of evil, I do not know what is.....
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I think these Islamist/Insurgent/Jerks are miscalculating the effect of these beheadings. What could they be thinking? That the world will become more sympathetic to their causes? That they will be viewed as noble fighters?
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they are not there to be viewed as "noble fighters". they are doing these to strike horror and revulsion to all the "foreigners" in iraq, and based on your response, seems to be working.
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And where are all the frikin' people who were screaming about the Geneva conventions? Kidnapping people FOR THE PURPOSE of beheading them?
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well, you don't need to be reminded that geneva convention only applies to nation states and governments who signed it. these outfits and militias are bound by no rules and if they are caught they will declared "enemy combatants" and not "pow" and they know it so save your energies on harping about geneva conventions. what us has done to its commitment to geneva convention rules is already discussed a bunch of times so you should be the last person to talk about geneva convention. :)
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This has gone beyond terror, this is horror.....
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yeah, and thats exactly what they want. are they succeeding?
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What could they be thinking? That the world will become more sympathetic to their causes? That they will be viewed as noble fighters?
I think it is more likely to galvanze opposition against them.
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precisely.. and unless these are total idiots, which we hear they are not, they should know that too.
In that case.. who benefits the most from these actions?
Spain was against the war.. the population didn't want it, much like Britain it was the government which went against the wishes of the people to participate in that war.. u know it..i know it.. so poeple who arranged that attack also knew it.. Why would a 'genuine' al-qayda disrupt any chances of the defeat of a pro-US regime?
who else benefits from an attack? if it succeeds.. praise Spain for staying steadfast on the "War on Terror" .. if they vote against the war anyway.. blame the defeat of the pro-war party on 'cowardly' spanish people afraid of terrorits..instead of the realization of a win of the anti-war agenda.
Let me advance the argument that these terrorists are not really speaking to Westernized governments or their citizens with these beheadings. Rather, they are speaking to and sending a message to the Muslim masses. When they blow up innocent Iraqis or kill Iraqi policemen, they are speaking to that same group.
More than anything, these subhumans are fighting a religiously inspired civil war with the ultimate objective of power and control over the Islamic faith and the Islamic masses. The horror and fear they try to engender is among the Muslim masses. The message is not to oppose them or speak out against them because no one will be spared their brand of violence and inhumanity.
Saddam cowered a whole nation for 20+ years because he was the most ruthless and fearful mother in the valley. Dare to speak out and lose your tongue or get dropped in a meat grinder. These terrorists are not merely content with controlling a single country. They want an entire religion.
And make no mistake about it, they know their audience. Everywhere they look in the Muslim world, they see that ruthless inhumanity translates to power and, except for them, passive acceptance of their lot in life from the average citizen. I don't think for a minute that the typical average Muslim in the street will cheer and approve of the next Western head put on display by Al Jazzzzzeeeera. But I think that every head shown will lessen his/her inclination to speak out against this horror for fear that his/her head might be next.
It's the perception that matters - at least in the short term.
If terrorists feel they can use their tactics to change governments' policies - then they will be more bold in the future and continue (or worsen) the kinds of things they've been doing.
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The Fighters are absolutely right.
The Koreans are now withdrawing all of their buisnessmen from Iraq.
Like the Spaniards did, the Russians and some Latin American nations.
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*Originally posted by 5Abi: * I saw the video on TV where this Korean guy was pleading that he didnt want to die. I felt very sorry for the poor chap :/
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Do you feel sorry for the Iraqis when they plead to Occupation Countries to let them go?
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They're not after Gold Medals or sympathy,.. they just want their homeland (with the oil fields) from fireigners occupying their country.
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Militants beheaded a South Korean hostage in Iraq Tuesday after Seoul refused their demand to withdraw its troops from the country and cancel plans to send more, the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera said.
South Korea confirmed the death of hostage Kim Sun-il and said his body had been found. Foreign Ministry spokesman Shin Bong-kil told reporters the U.S. military had found the corpse and informed South Korean officials.
