when one has caused death to innocent people, plants and animals, land and coontaminated water and air of people and life forms, who cannot exist where they used to, how does such a horrendously rotten person, ever comes even close to self forgiveness?
is the conscience of such a person, non existent?
can self forgiveness be ever possible for a killer?
when one has caused death to innocent people, plants and animals, land and coontaminated water and air of people and life forms, who cannot exist where they used to, how does such a horrendously rotten person, ever comes even close to self forgiveness?
is the conscience of such a person, non existent?
can self forgiveness be ever possible for a killer?
Yes..................reminds me of Golda Meir's famous comment when she was talking to an Arab Leader............and all the Jewish community was proud of that comment she made..............
Golda Said: We can forgive you for killing our women and children........
But we will never forgive you for making us kill your women and children!
That is one way to absolve yourself............blaming your own wrong doing on the others.....................
That is Ultimate ARROGANCE!
how does such a horrendously rotten person, ever comes even close to self forgiveness?
He or she reads the Jewish Talmud and then realizes that Yahweh sanctifies the killing of non-Jewish men, women and children.
Re: killing and then self forgivness
Move this thread to 'Religion Forum' and I shall reply in full if you want.
You'r not a new member should have known better.
when one has caused death to innocent people, plants and animals, land and coontaminated water and air of people and life forms, who cannot exist where they used to, how does such a horrendously rotten person, ever comes even close to self forgiveness?
is the conscience of such a person, non existent?
can self forgiveness be ever possible for a killer?
That is indeed a very good question Dushwari. I often wonder how people like these can go to sleep at night? They must have some twisted reasoning in their heads to justify their actions and besides Allah SWT has sealed their hearts so they dont feel any remorse or guilt. Allah SWT knows best.
*you dont have to order people around. *
*stay within your limits. *
*you dont want to post here, that is all fine. *
*but your untoward demand is not something that is going to make this post go any where else. *
*it is indended for this forum and it will stay here. *
*unless, you get partial support of anybody, who turns out to be your unfair chum. *
Move this thread to 'Religion Forum' and I shall reply in full if you want.
You'r not a new member should have known better.
correct, Frozen Oxygen.
on the one hand, there is no unity and utter corruption within muslim govts, such as sa, uae, syria, jordan, lebnon, iran, iraq, afghanistan, pakistan etc.,
and on top of it, exploitative non muslim nations and govts, are waiting like vultures to eat at the dead of muslims, to destroy their lands, loot their
resources and then come out clean as if nothing happened.
god may be disappointed in muslims, to a point that this is where god is indicating, you are on your own.
this weak destiny argument, cannot be believed in after seeing all this murder and genocide, and the silence with which muslim nations are DOING NOTHING, to denounce and end this genocide and stand up just as much as a strong alliance of muslim states, who can match the despotic manipulations of the non muslim, essentially zionist and anti muslim alliance around the world.
see, their paranoia is pathetic.
even more pathetic is muslims' entrapment in that paranoia's propaganda.
unless, muslims wont stand together as ONE FORCE, non muslims who are anti muslims, will not even stop short of mutilating the dead wounded and bombed bodies of muslims.
all of this labeling of terrorism is simply a way to distract the world and its conscience, from the utter terrorism and killing, toture and destruction of life, that these murderous agencies are planning and executing themselves.
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That is indeed a very good question Dushwari. I often wonder how people like these can go to sleep at night? They must have some twisted reasoning in their heads to justify their actions and besides Allah SWT has sealed their hearts so they dont feel any remorse or guilt. Allah SWT knows best.
when one has caused death to innocent people, plants and animals, land and coontaminated water and air of people and life forms, who cannot exist where they used to, how does such a horrendously rotten person, ever comes even close to self forgiveness?
is the conscience of such a person, non existent?
can self forgiveness be ever possible for a killer?
No, it is not possible to forgive oneself for such crimes.Read the feelings of an American soldier fighting in Iraq:
Let me tell you that the America where you live, where I was born and brought up and which has always been known for being the torch bearer of freedom and justice is sadly, no more worthy of its name. It has been hijacked by a group of corrupt politicians who would do anything to further their evil designs. During this war, I have come to know how low we can stoop, how far we can fall from grace and how evil we can think. I can never forgive myself for being an instrument of evil, a violator of sanctity and a soldier of America. Under the garb of a US soldier I am a murderer and a mercenary who has killed innocent, helpless and harmless Iraqis. Since I have been a party to this unjustified war, I consider myself a war criminal guilty of genocide and mass murder. Although I plead guilty to racism and sacrilege too, but now, in retrospect, considering the crimes against humanity that I have committed, they appear like petty offences. I died the day I killed that three year old kid and his father. I died again with that old man who was crushed to death by falling debris after he shot at my vehicle with that small gun. I have died every time an Iraqi has lost his life. I die everyday an American soldier gets killed. I have died every day that a suicide bomber was made. I have died with him as he blew himself up. I have died every time that I have been to a death parade. I died each time an American family lost someone in Iraq. I have died with every mother who lost a son; every wife who lost a husband. I have died with every Cyndi who lost a Tom, every Laura who lost a Drake. I have died with every hungry motherless baby who cries for his mother, every poor orphaned child who yearns for his father. I died, as they cried, till their tears too, dried. I have embraced death each and every bloody day of my life in Iraq. Dear God, isn't it ironic that you gave me just one life to live and yet made me die so many times? I am tired of dying over and over again. I want to die once and for all. I am tired of dying, waiting for my last, final and ultimate death. Please help me, God, I am dying to die. If my death would make the world a better place, then, for others' sake, if not for my sake, please let me die so that others may live in peace.
There was a time when I used to elude death; now I have become such a despicable creature that even death eludes me. I used to be scared of death but now I have turned into such an ugly monster that even death is scared of me. I have become the taker of life, the giver of death.
Dear God, I took away from people what you gave them, life; now please give me what I gave them, death. Please let me die, finally and for the last time but not peacefully, rather, make it exemplary. Make me die in such horrible a manner that all death gets scared to death and dies with me. Don’t let me die quickly; make it as slow and painful as you can. Don’t let me die quietly; make me suffer in a way not heard of, so that, when I cry, my ear splitting screams reach every nook and corner of the earth. Make them so loud and terrifying that as they reverberate, the earth shakes and the sky trembles. Make me cry in such disgusting a manner that the Angel of mercy flies planets away. Do me a favor, when you give me death, don't bleed me, for the falling drops of my dirty blood would leave everlasting stains on the clean surface of the earth. Don't bury me, for my rotting carcass would continuously infect all life that lies hereunder. Don't burn me for my filthy ashes would permanently desecrate the sacred soil. Don’t drown me for my unholy remains would eternally contaminate all the water on the planet. Don't melt me for the disgusting stench would forever destroy the purity of the air. Don't evaporate me for the poisonous vapors would spread far and wide, polluting the atmosphere for times to come. Finish me in totality, with my past, present and future, please…. Leave behind no signs of me, no memories, no history. Dear God, my life has been spent ending lives; please let my death end all death for the Iraqis and the entire mankind as in the death of death, lies the life of life. My evil spirit is a prisoner in my body; when I die, please unshackle it; lest it too dies with me without paying for my sins. When my self dies, please liberate my soul from my being as the soul has to continue to suffer and pay for all that pain I caused to others, till, finally, the death of all deaths caused by man overwhelms us, leaving the world a better place; a place where death has no beginning and life has no ending. After death dies permanently and life continues to live forever, how good would it be to live in a place full of love and life, a place full of sovereign Iraqs and Afghanistans, a place worth living in and living for and not a place worth dying in and dying for.