KILL Them!!!

A few selected verses from the Qur’an are often misquoted to perpetuate the myth that Islam promotes violence, and exhorts its followers to kill those outside the pale of Islam.

1. Verse from Surah Taubah

The following verse from Surah Taubah is very often quoted by critics of Islam, to show that Islam promotes violence, bloodshed and brutality:

“Kill the mushriqeen (pagans, polytheists, kuffar) where ever you find them.”
[Al-Qur’an 9:5]

2. Context of verse is during battlefield

Critics of Islam actually quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriqs (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the *Mushriqs *of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the *Mushriqs *of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them. Verse 5 of Surah Taubah says:

“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is oft-forgiving, Most merciful.”
[Al-Qur’an 9:5]

This verse is quoted during a battle.

3. Example of war between America and Vietnam

We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them”. Today if I say that the American President said, “Wherever you find Vietnamese, kill them” without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war.

4. Verse 9:5 quoted to boost morale of Muslims during battle

Similarly in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 the Qur’an says, “Kill the Mushriqs where ever you find them”, during a battle to boost the morale of the Muslim soldiers. What the Qur’an is telling Muslim soldiers is, don’t be afraid during battle; wherever you find the enemies kill them.

5. Shourie jumps from verse 5 to verse 7

Arun Shourie is one of the staunchest critics of Islam in India. He quotes the same verse, Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 in his book ‘The World of Fatwahs’, on page 572. After quoting verse 5 he jumps to verse 7 of Surah Taubah. Any sensible person will realise that he has skipped verse 6.

6. Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer

Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer to the allegation that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed. It says:

“If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum,grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.”
[Al-Qur’an 9:6]

The Qur’an not only says that a Mushriq seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security?

This is exactly what Allah (swt) says in the Glorious Qur’an to promote peace in the world.

http://www.irf.net/irf/faqonislam/index.htm

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Very nice post. JazakAllah.

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These are your interpretations.
The problem is that the 'terrorists' follow their own interpretations.

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^^

Because Allah has already said in the very beginning of Quran that This Book (Quran) is guidance for only those who are righteous.

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And how many other versus are there which were only for that period of time? Is it possible that the versus which are interpretted about hijaab and music were only for that time. Let not stop there what about the hadees covering beard.

So my friend the essence is it all depends what you want to see. If you want to be flexible it is flexible, you want to be rigid it is rigid. Not only non muslim but a lot of muslims (terrorists kind) think on the same lines.

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And how many other versus are there which were only for that period of time? Is it possible that the versus which are interpretted about hijaab and music were only for that time. Let not stop there what about the hadees covering beard.

So my friend the essence is it all depends what you want to see. If you want to be flexible it is flexible, you want to be rigid it is rigid. Not only non muslim but a lot of muslims (terrorists kind) think on the same lines.
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I didn't say these verses were bound by time, they still apply today but in the battle field, Islam doesn't tell us to go kill non-combatant innocent civillians on the streets like Islam-haters claim it does...

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It's not a question of intrepretation, if you read the whole chapter instead of a line here and a line there the message is as clear as daylight.

The Koran also says "approach not prayer", if I start taking that out of context I've got an excuse to not pray but if I take the whole verse it tells me "approach not prayer in a state of drunkennes"...

Koranic verses are not meant to be taken out of context.

Nothing justifies terrorism but when terrorists kill in the name of Islam their main motivation isn't in Islamic scripture/doctrine it is in political affairs..

Their reasons are political and rooted in world affairs rather than in Islamic scripture/doctrine... It's more anger/helplessness/fear/patrioticism rather than religious conviction, of course it help them to use religious slogans to stir emotions and it probably comforts them when they delude themselves that what they're doing is justified, but what they're doing is against Islam, Islam has strict rules of warfare, they're not doing Islam or Muslims any favours, when they murder in the name of Allaah it's blasphemy against His Name, true Muslim warriors are meant to be saint-soldiers, they don't blow old grannies and little babies up...

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How about all of islam just came for THAT specific time?
Why not just follow something else now.

pfft.

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Please actually do read up on orthodox Islam before you copy & paste an article you got from email written by some western hippy mod-muslim trying to please the white man.

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:salam:

Only Islam is Islam, forget the moderate or orthdox or any other forms of Islam. Read it, learn it and practice it as Islam. Period.

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So what are you saying? Muslims should kill the mushriqeen where ever they find them? That's bizarre.

BTW, Dr. Zakir Naikm is respected by many. Because he doesn't interpret things exactly as they have been for centuries does not make him wrong. Or a hippy mod Muslim.

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These are not interpretations.

Anyway, terrorists are often geopolitically in the right imho. It's just that the strategies and tactics they employ are inhumane, unthinking, retarded... and most importantly un-Islamic (unless one is of the opinion that all is allowed in times of war).

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Cresent, you always shoot first and ask questions later. Do you understand what sarcasm is?

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Unfortunately, all this is highly debatable.
Fortunately, it is being debated.

Only good can come out of this.

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I don't get it. What exactly is debatable?

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Question... if a person is righteous, why would he need guidance? You sure the word means righteous?

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What is debatable?

These are not modern apologetic reinterpretations, the true message of the verse becomes crystal clear when you take the whole chapter into context.

I guess you’re eager to believe Islam is what the extremist Hindus tell you it is because it justifies what they say and do to Muslims.

We’ve been taught the interpretation and context of these verses since we were kids if you’d rather believe the hate websites ran by Baptist-missionaries, Zionists and Hindutva folk then that’s your problem.

I’ll admit there are plenty of so called Muslims around who will misinterpret Islamic scripture but they do so because of their suffering and not out of true conviction that Islam really condones terrorism, their followers are attracted to their ideologies out of emotion rather than religious-conviction…

…Look at the vids in the post below, do you think these kids whose mom got shot by Israelis will be more attracted to a peaceful Imam or a violent one? And is there any surprise why?

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=261524

It’s not just Palestinians, the Kashmiris, Chechnians, Bosnians, Kosovans, Tatars… Muslims everywhere have been persecuted for a very long time, that doesn’t justify them turning to terrorism (morally or islamically) but they do so because anger is human nature, Muslims especially are a very hot blooded and patriotic (towards Islam/Ummah) people…

If Muslims weren’t suffering, no sermon in the world and no promise of heaven could motivate young Muslims to kill innocents… The suffering of Muslims doesn’t justify terrorism but if you want to get to the root cause of terrorism then there you are.

When I condemn terrorism I don’t condemn legitimate warfare against oppressors, that is true Jihad… That’s even allowed in your religion, didn’t your Krishna and Arjuna fight against the forces of evil in the Gita?

The Koran says..

‘Oh Lord, rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors, and raise for us from You one who will protect, and raise for us from You one who will help…’ [4:75]

‘…and fight in the cause of Allah against those who fight you…’ [2:190]

"And when they went into the field against Goliath and his hosts, they said: Our Lord! Bestow on us endurance, make our foothold sure, and give us help against the disbelieving folk. So they routed them by God’s leave and David slew Goliath; and God gave him the kingdom and wisdom, and taught him of that which He wills. And if God had not repelled some men by others the earth would have been corrupted. But God is a Lord of Kindness to (His) creatures.” [2:250-251]

“Sanction is given unto those who fight because they have been wronged; and Allah is indeed Able to give them victory; those who have been driven from their homes unjustly only because they said: Our Lord is Allah - For had it not been for Allah’s repelling some men by means of others, cloisters and churches and oratories and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft mentioned, would assuredly have been pulled down. Verily Allah helps one who helps Him. Lo! Allah is Strong, Almighty.” [22:39-40]

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everyone needs guidance from God everytime and everywhere.....righteous or non righteous.

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Arabic word is 'Muttaqi' which means righteous.

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:salam:

Just to clear up this confusion here is the verse:

*002.002 *
YUSUFALI: This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah;
PICKTHAL: This is the Scripture whereof there is no doubt, a guidance unto those who ward off (evil).
SHAKIR: This Book, there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who guard (against evil).

So you are correct in what you asked, I think Malhot meant to say those who aim to become righteous.