Kids should behave...

** Saw this as an interesting piece about modern American culture :). Do you think the restaurant owner is right or wrong in posting that sign? Would you be offended or not? **

http://www.nbc5.com/family/5294744/detail.html?z=dp&dpswid=2265994&dppid=65192

Dan McCauley has been running his Andersonville bakery and coffee shop, A Taste of Heaven, for 14 years. People of all ages enjoy the treats, but he says some kids acting devilishly have made A Taste of Heaven less divine.

“We were surprised at how many times we would see children really out of control,” McCauley said. "And we actually had people leaving the bakery because the children were so out of control."So, he put a sign on the door at kids’ eye-level, asking children of all ages to use their “indoor voices.”“We thought it was just a friendly reminder to people that when they come here, just be considerate of the people around them. We had no idea the kind of controversy that was going to explode out of this,” McCauley said.

But some parents who spoke with NBC5’s Natalie Martinez took immediate offense to the sign. The angry mothers said there are plenty of places in the Andersonville neighborhood where they can take their kids, even if they’re acting out.“I’ve e-mailed friends and said, ‘Just so you know, this man has a sign up. I know there are lots of other options, and I’d encourage you not to go there,’” parent Kate Bremmer said.

When she spoke with Martinez, Bremmer and her kids were picking out goodies at a Swedish bakery, where all kids are welcome.“Our custom has been to offer a cookie to every child that comes into the store for as long as I can remember,” said Kathy Stanton-Cromwell, the co-owner of the bakery, which is just a few doors down from A Taste of Heaven.Stanton-Cromwell said the cookie serves as “a good calmer” for kids who are acting up.

Bremmer said A Taste of Heaven “is not a five-star restaurant,” so she thinks it should cater to kids, not the other way around.“They offer ice cream cones and cookies and lots things that kids love, and therefore, I don’t think that they should make such an issue of it,” Bremmer said.Other parents enjoying lunch with their kids at A Taste of Heaven were more diplomatic.“I have mixed feelings about it. It’s a little off-putting,” one mother said.

Linda Wallace, also a mother who eats at A Taste of Heaven, said she thought McCauley was “sort of brave” for putting up the sign. “It did cross my mind that he might offend some people,” she said. McCauley said he loves kids, although he has none of his own. He said he has no immediate plans to take the sign down.

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I think the owner has every right to keep up the sign. I'd not be all that offended either... people DO get annoyed and will start avoiding the place if they're looking for a relaxing cup of coffee but instead have little wild indians running around. Parents need to keep a close eye on their little ones and teach them how to behave in public.

We went thru a time where our boys got out of hand at restaurants so we always made sure to go to "family" type restaurants where they'd be welcome even if they got too loud or messy. After a few of these dinners, they learned proper behavior and we can now take them wherever we'd like to go.

That said, I recently made a post about how kids are so much less welcome these days and this bothers me. My mom never used a babysitter until we were around 8 or 9 but these days people assume that you have a babysitter or nanny at your beck and call so please dont bring your children. This, i think is wrong!

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I think that the less children people have, the more they pamper them... and in some parts of the world its got to the stage where these namby pamby pampered children start having rights and whats worse is they actually know what they are.

In the "olden days" and in most other parts of the world parents have or had a responsibility to turn their child from a little uncouth cavechild to a well mannered little human, now this does STILL happen..... however, some people are of the view that this is against the the natural order and the child should "grow" without inhibitions

so we get to go out to bakery type places and get to see manic crazy kids screaming the place down with parents with fixed smiles saying "honey ...talk to me"

AAAARRRGGHHH!!!!

I reckon the sign should be amended to say

"if your kid plays up and annoys us we have the right to lock it up in the cellar with the rats"

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lol, LD! You're right in a way...I mean, I used to get a good slap if I misbehaved while out in public. These days, if you slap a child who is acting like a little animal, theres a good chance that Child Protective Services will come knocking at your door.

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Thanks guys, I feel the same way> I think people who are complaining are being selfish brats thesmelves, much like the kids they’re raising. If/when I ever have a business, I’ll post the same sign, I don’t want lil brats running around and messing up my pretty clothes :mad:

But yeah Mama, ur also right about how kids are being less and less welcome… it is a cultural war, like I said above. Just a while ago there was contoversy (i’m sure it still goes on) about how women should not be allowed to breastfeed thier children in public, bevcause it’s gross and obscene. More and more families have both parents working (not because they can’t affordt o live on one income, but because they just like the extra money :rolleyes: ) so they dump their kids off in daycare or to be raised by a stranger… nobody wants to take responsibility these days.. we love our animals more than we love our fellow human beings..

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I think it's my mom's fault she won't tell me to shutup when I'm roudy in public.

The restaurant has the absolute right to put that sign up since the kid's behavior is affecting their 'performance'.

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I'm sorry, but I seriously think today's kids are brats. Obese, greedy, self-centered, little arses running around like parasites on the loose.

Resteraunts SHOULD have cellars for these rugrats. Lock 'em up.

Jeez, I'm telling you. These kids, they're friggin fast. And the one thing I hate is when you have a parent whose got an out of control kid, and actually has the audacity to say their kid is "well-mannered". Gimme a break, who are these people kidding?

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^ On the obesity... from third grade to eigth grade I was the only fat kid... when I graduated from 8th grade, the number of fat/obese nine year oldsa nd younger had doubled since I was in those grades... My cousins in pak r the worst, they scream, yell, they're very ziddi... and i feel bad for their parents.. my cousin tried for years to concieve and her kid si a spoiled brat and she has no idea wat to do.. :(

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Dont forget it isnt COMPLETELY the fault of the parents either....when your child starts nursery school, they start looking and watching for signs of "abuse"...and whats considered "abusive" these days makes about 98 percent of my generation "abused children". They have all kinds of parenting classes that you're pressured into attending on how to "discuss" and teach with love rather than give a slap when one may be needed. So parents are in a constant worry of losing their kids or being investigated by CPS.

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I hate it when parents blame the lack of discipline on the fear of external agencies

Only joking

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I think our masjid needs a sign like that too. I seriously have to think every time I go to the masjid if I'll be able to tolerate the rowdy kids whose moms don't say a word to them when they misbehave!

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PCG: I think that's why movies and stories like "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" are so enjoyable.

I hate it when parents let their kids run wild and go on chit-chatting as usual.

I think the shopkeeper did what was appropriate.

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i luv smacking little kids when their moms arent around....

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Me too!!

Promise me you’ll let me babysit for your babies :blush:

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saaali!
hehe u think u'll get time off from singing, cooking, gardening, etc etc for desi uncle hubby?

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:bummer: