Kidnapping Catholics

Now you just have to shake your head at this one. How many times have we heard Israeli’s and Americans compared to Nazis? Seems like some other groups may be far more similar!

Hitler plot to kidnap the pope revealed

John Hooper in Rome
Monday January 17, 2005
The Guardian

Weeks before Nazi troops abandoned Rome, Adolf Hitler personally ordered the SS to kidnap the then pope so he could be brought back to Germany and locked up in a castle, according to previously unpublished testimony made available at the weekend.

Archbishop abducted in north Iraq

An Catholic archbishop in the northern Iraq city of Mosul has been kidnapped, the Vatican says.
Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa, 66, was abducted from outside his church in the east of the city.

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Ohioguy,

With due respect, the comparison between an organized military force of a world power (Germany) and rag-tag militias involved in rebel gureilla warfare just does not fly. The people fighting in Iraq are killing/kidnapping/harming anyone whom they feel will futher their cause. I bet if they get hold of a muslim cleric who they feel is helping US forces, they will kidnap him too. Don't take the abduction of the archibishop personally.

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Phew...I thought it was serious. It is only a clergyman.

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Americans need not worry. He was only catholic, not an evangelical protestant.

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There are over 80 million catholics in the United States.

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Oh comeonnn .. the church can’t pay up! They are already near bankruptcy with all the priests gone wild stuff. They should have kidnapped someone like .. Gates .. now, THATS some serious dough!

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hahaha..priests gone wild… :hehe:

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Ohioguy would you feel better if i posted pictures of Catholic clergy supporting Neo Nazis? heck the Smith. has these pictures up on public display.

Edit: And He has been released.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/01/18/news/iraq.html

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Many Islamic States have patronized terrorism and kidnapping. The Islamic sector has always directly or indirectly justified such acts of terrors.

Creating terror for achieving dirty goals was an official policy of Nazism.

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hmmm interested to know your reaction now that the Archbishop has been released.. only because the kidnappers learnt who he was..

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You are safe only when you are locked up Iraq. I wouldn’t wana be on the street in Baghdad. I much rather be in Abu Gareb to save my ass from insurgents.

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OR you could be his eminence the high priest of Tikrit.. then they won't touch you..

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How quickly people forget that nazism and its symbols are based on Hinduism and its traditions.

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^^ so??

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Right. Let me break it down for you son. The imbecile above is an Indian who compares Muslims and Neo-Nazis. I was just showing him that such weak links can be made with his own civilization and religion. Must something so simple really be spelled out?

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Coming back to the news story that triggered this thread, and as PakAbroad mentioned, the Archbishop is released:

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Detroit Free Press

Catholic archbishop kidnapped in northern Iraq is freed, says abductors did not intend to target the church

MOSUL, Iraq - A Catholic archbishop kidnapped in northern Iraq was freed Tuesday after one day in captivity and said his abductors did not intend to target the church.

No ransom was paid to win the release of Archbishop Basile Georges Casmoussa, 66, of the Syrian Catholic Church, a branch of the Roman Catholic Church, the church said. Casmoussa, an Iraqi, lives in the northern city of Mosul.

“I’m happy to have returned to the bishop’s office,” Casmoussa told Vatican Radio. "I can say that I wasn’t mistreated. “I think that my kidnapping was a coincidence. It doesn’t seem to me that they wanted to strike at the church per se.”

And more…

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CM, you want to say that today Muslim States are following Hindu oriented Nazism?

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Faisal already posted from a link by yours truly from the IHT.

Anjjan, nah what I am actually saying is that there is no difference between Nazism and Hinduism. If you are gonna pull something out of the air, so can anybody. Doesn't mean that there is any substance to it.

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CM yeh baat kuch hazam nahin hui... true he was wrong in connecting nazism to islamist terrorism but then u are doing the same mistake... swastika is a hindu symbol tat was used by hitler out of context for his agenda... hindu swastika means peace or welfare (or something similar) but hitler's swastika (its actually a bit modified) meant oppression or aryan supremacy... now if some really crappy dictator used the crescent and star for his crimes, can ppl link him to islam??? repeating the same mistakes doesnt get us anywhere, grow up.

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Desibanda, you are wrong. In fact all dictatorial ideologies are similar to each other in infrastructure and behavior. Nazism, Communism or Islamic States, there is not much difference.

Question is very simple, do not many Muslim States patronize terrorism, kidnapping etc? And how the Islamic society behaves over such incidents? Starting from shouting of ‘design’, to justifying killings for the sake of ‘revenge’?
What is the difference?

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