Suppose a Muslim boy kind of ends up doing it with his already married college teacher. After a few months the guy repents and becomes religious. But then she tells him that she gave birth to his son and her husband thinks it’s his.
· The baby is biologically that guy’s son and that guy loves him with his life, but is he considered his son Islamically?
· Is the guy responsible for the religion the child is brought up in, will Allah hold the guy responsible on the day of judgement if the kid is brought up as a Mushrik since the mother is a pagan and so is her husband.
· Is the guy held responsible if the kid is given a Hindu name and not circumcised?
Firstly, I think there is a lashing type punishment due, due to the adultery. 60 Lashes I think. Can't remember exactly, but it is in the Qur'aan. Need to double check. Ah, I bet that got you thinking.
Secondly, according to the majority of Islamic scholars, might be slightly different according the Hanafi Fiqh, if a child is born out of wedlock, the lineage of the mother is only recognised. The fathers lineage is not recognised. Only after wedlock is the lineage of the father recognised. However, the Qur'aan does ask both people to marry each other in the first instance. Believers that is.
In other words, the father ain't got no say so. If the mother was a pagan and decides to bring the child up so. Then so be it.
What Allah does with the parents etc, only Allah knows best.
Doesn’t the punish have to be carried out in a Shari’ah governed place by the law? And I think you also need four trustworthy witnesses.
Since Allah is Al-Raheem I think He will forgive those who repent to Him sincerely and don’t go back to sinning again. Especially since I wasn’t religious then and only started taking religion seriously very recently.
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Thanks for replying.
Punishment? Lashes?? Ouch!!!
Doesn’t the punish have to be carried out in a Shari’ah governed place by the law? And I think you also need four trustworthy witnesses.
Since Allah is Al-Raheem I think He will forgive those who repent to Him sincerely and don’t go back to sinning again. Especially since I wasn’t religious then and only started taking religion seriously very recently.
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you know what they say, better late then never
as for the lashes, yes it is a shariah punishment, and since you're in England, i don't think shariah laws apply, and adultry is not considered a crime over there.
so, i dunno. as for the repentence, thats the only thing you can do.
Allah is the sattar-ul-uyoob. the One who conceals our defects. Yes there is that punishment for adultery, given that it is found out and brought before court in the manner prescribed (four eyewitnesses). One is not obligated in Islam to fess up to any court about his sins.
i distinctly remember reading something in our literature about a man coming upto either the Prophet or Hazrat Ali and confessing to zina. He was repeatedly told to go back and repent, repeatedly he came back and asked for the requisite punishment. i forget how the story ends, but the idea is that what you do personally, so long as you do not get caught doing it, is something between you and Allah.
which leads me to think that the shariah courts may not be for the purpose of providing justice, but moreso as a deterrent, to keep people from publicly flaunting the law. they may be there for the society, and not the individual. The latter, I think, is what Qiyamat is for.
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I agree with you. I think it would be sufficient if I repent and not make the same mistake again.
Although some people might think the Shariah (Islamic law) is too ‘harsh’ I think its justified, the punishments are there for those who violate the law because it acts as a deterrent for the criminals who commits the crimes, if they knew the punishment they are going to get for their crimes they would think a hundred times before committing it. ‘Harsh’ punishments prevent people from breaking the law.
If somebody commits a sin and nobody knows about it then it’s between that person and his Rabb (Lord) but if somebody is doing it so openly so that people witness it or the person admits to it and flaunts it then it is no longer just harmful for that individual but it is also harmful for the society at large, the more people are exposed to sin/crime the less serious it starts to feel.
I can’t remember a reference but I think there is a saying of the Prophet (peace be upon him) something along the lines of “whoever covers up for a fellow Muslim, Allah will conceal his sins on the day of judgement.”
We are encouraged to sincerely repent and it is not necessary to tell the authorities about what we did in the past.
I don’t mean to say it’s all right to commit sins secretly because you still have to answer before Allah on the day of judgement.
"And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Quran 5:74)
*"Say: ‘O my servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Turn ye to your Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (will), before the penalty comes on you - after that ye shall not be helped.
And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the penalty comes on you - of a sudden, while ye perceive not!" (Quran 39:53-55)*
