Khatam-e-Nabuwwat in the eyes Muslim scholars

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Here I would like to show what our Muslim scholars’ views were about 'Khatam-e-Nabuwwat.

The great saint, Hazrat Maulana Room (Rehmatullah Alaihi) writes:

“Make such plans to perform righteousness in the way of God that you attain prophethood within the Ummat (religious community)”
(Mathnavi Maulana Room, Daftar I, pg. 53)

The Hakim ul Millat in fact gave credence to the opinion that prophets within the Ummah may arise when he stated:

‘There cannot be an independent prophet after the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, who is not his follower and his adherent.’
(Al Khairul Katheer: pg 111)

The Muhaddith of Dehli, Hazrat Shah Wali Ullah subscribed to this opinion and stated:

‘The meaning of the Holy Prophet being the Khataman Nabiyeen is that there shall not now appear a person whom God may appoint with a new Law for mankind, that is to say, there shall be no prophet who shall come with a new Law.’
(Tafheemati Ilahiyyah pg. 53)

Hazrat Imam Abdul Wahhab She’raani said:

prophethood has not been abolished and it is only law-bearing prophethood that is abolished.
(Al Yawaaqeetu Wal Jawaahir: Vol. 3 pg. 35)

‘Hazrat Abu Ja’far, while discussing the Quranic verse: “For verily We granted the Book to the children of Abraham…,” said that God vouchsafed to the children of Abraham, Messengers, Prophets and Imams. But what is ironical is that people believe in what God blessed the children of Abraham with and yet they deny this blessing for the progeny of Muhammad.’
Al-Saafi Sharah Asool Al-Kaafi, Part 3, Pg. 119

‘From the study and contemplation of the Darud we have arrived at the definite conclusion that there shall, from among the Muslims, certainly be persons whose status, in the matter of prophethood, shall advance to the level of prophets, if Allah pleases. But they shall not be given any book of law.’
Fatuhati Makiyyah: Vol 1. pg 545

Hazrat Maulana Abul Hasanat Abul Hayee, a distinguished scholar of the Sunni sect shared this opinion and stated:

‘After the demise of the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, or even during his own lifetime, it is not an impossibility for someone to be exalted to the position of a simple prophet. But a prophet with a new Law is, indeed, forbidden.’
(Dafe ul Waswas: pg 16)

Hazrat Maulana Faranghi Mahal, an eminent scholar of the Ahle Sunnat also discussed the significance of the expression Khatamae Nubuwwat and on behalf of the Sunni Scholars, he declared:

‘The divines of the Sunni sects believe in and expound the fact that in the course of the Ministry of the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, there cannot appear a law bearing prophet and his prophethood extends to the end of days. A prophet who appears during his ministry shall necessarily be the follower of the Law of Muhammad.’
(Majmu’ah Fatawa: Vol. 1, pg 144)

There are many other great scholars who had the same view of khatam-e-Nabuwwat… think!!!

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And your point is?

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Why do you feel that the REVEALATIONS /TEACHINGS of Prophet Mohd are final?

Can the teachings as exemplified by the Islamic states and myriad religious organizations be considered for ALL ETERNITY?

Surely - you josh - O'silly ones?

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*Originally posted by Lajawab: *
And your point is?
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My point is .... all of our scholars believed in khatam-e-Nabuwwat.. yet they didn't deny of continuation of prophethood from God as prophets are a blessing from God to His people. Which means prophets can come but under the umbrella of Hazoor (SAW), and cannot bring any new sharriat. And this is not something that I am making up. It has been said by scholars all along. But today's Mullah's have brain-washed the Muslims that no new prophet can come even if people of the age need one as the 'doors are closed' from God.

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*Originally posted by zakiahmed: *

My point is .... all of our scholars believed in khatam-e-Nabuwwat.. yet they didn't deny of continuation of prophethood from God as prophets are a blessing from God to His people. Which means prophets can come but under the umbrella of Hazoor (SAW), and cannot bring any new sharriat. And this is not something that I am making up. It has been said by scholars all along. But today's Mullah's have brain-washed the Muslims that no new prophet can come even if people of the age need one as the 'doors are closed' from God.
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Your scholars also believe that
"the Earth is flat as a carpet and Mountains are pegs to hold down this carpet"
or,
"the sun goes down to sleep in muddy marshes"
or,
"the stars are lamps"
or,
allah is a deity 60 cubits in size sitting on his throne in the 7th heaven.

Or,
"females of jews & christian can be taken over/enslaved by force."

Just a few examples.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by zakiahmed: *

My point is .... all of our scholars believed in khatam-e-Nabuwwat.. yet they didn't deny of continuation of prophethood from God as prophets are a blessing from God to His people. Which means prophets can come but under the umbrella of Hazoor (SAW), and cannot bring any new sharriat. And this is not something that I am making up. It has been said by scholars all along. But today's Mullah's have brain-washed the Muslims that no new prophet can come even if people of the age need one as the 'doors are closed' from God.
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So, can I be a prophet (NB) too if I worked hard at it?

P.S. hafeez, stop pretending to be a Muslim and stay away from Religious forum...It's obviously bad for your blood pressure and you have no clue what you are saying...

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by hafeez123: *

Your scholars also believe that
"the Earth is flat as a carpet and Mountains are pegs to hold down this carpet"
or,
"the sun goes down to sleep in muddy marshes"
or,
"the stars are lamps"
or,
allah is a deity 60 cubits in size sitting on his throne in the 7th heaven.

Or,
"females of jews & christian can be taken over/enslaved by force."

Just a few examples.
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so what's ur point???? don't believe in whatever 'good' is told to us by scholarly people? well that's a very good source of knowledge that you are missing ...

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Lajawab: *

So, can I be a prophet (NB) too if I worked hard at it?

P.S. hafeez, stop pretending to be a Muslim and stay away from Religious forum...It's obviously bad for your blood pressure and you have no clue what you are saying...
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I see my presence is making you insecure. You R welcome to call me non-muslim or whatever. As I said one has to be real desperate to be associated with the "lowest of the lows".

To answer your question-
You can be whatever you want.
But you can't be a THREAT to peace and civilized human behaviour & existence.

What will you all do when the billion muslim youths start asking DIRECT questions about the teachings of Sunnah & Islam that till today has been ENFORCED under the divine caveat of:

** HEAR & OBEY**

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by hafeez123: *

I see my presence is making you insecure. You R welcome to call me non-muslim or whatever. As I said one has to be real desperate to be associated with the "lowest of the lows".

To answer your question-
You can be whatever you want.
But you can't be a THREAT to peace and civilized human behaviour & existence.

What will you all do when the billion muslim youths start asking DIRECT questions about the teachings of Sunnah & Islam that till today has been ENFORCED under the divine caveat of:

** HEAR & OBEY**
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That's the problem...There has been little hearing and little obeying...And yes, you really make me so insecure...Especially over the internet...

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Lajawab: *

That's the problem...There has been little hearing and little obeying...And yes, you really make me so insecure...Especially over the internet...
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If I make the likes of you insecure then that is good! Maybe you wil learn to respect others.

Re: the other point:
It is actually all obeying and no listening to that inner voice in your heart (conscience). If you listened you would be made aware that what you believe & practise - this hate for others cannot be "the right path".

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Oh surely you jest…HAHAHA :hehe:

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There you go! You R heavily brainwashed to even listen to that inner voice.

Carry on. You all dererve to be what you R today and going into the future!

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Lajawab: *

So, can I be a prophet (NB) too if I worked hard at it?

P.S. hafeez, stop pretending to be a Muslim and stay away from Religious forum...It's obviously bad for your blood pressure and you have no clue what you are saying...
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See.. I don't make prophets... Allah does... and He has said in holy Quran:
"And whoso obeys Allah and this Messenger shall be among those on whom Allah has bestowed HIS blessings - the Prophets, the Truthful, the Martyrs, and the Righteous. And an excellent company are they". (Al-Nisa, 4: 70)

4: 71. This grace is from Allah, and Allah suffices as One Who is All-Knowing.

What would you say of that?

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by zakiahmed: *

My point is .... all of our scholars believed in khatam-e-Nabuwwat.. yet they didn't deny of continuation of prophethood from God as prophets are a blessing from God to His people. Which means prophets can come but under the umbrella of Hazoor (SAW), and cannot bring any new sharriat. And this is not something that I am making up. It has been said by scholars all along. But today's Mullah's have brain-washed the Muslims that no new prophet can come even if people of the age need one as the 'doors are closed' from God.
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OK....then ?????

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by hafeez123: *

Carry on. You all dererve to be what you R today and going into the future!
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Our beloved prophet Mohammed (pbuh) never wished bad things even for the unbelievers who treated Him so bad. He always prayed for them to still come to the True Faith.

But I guess this is the kind of things you say if you follow prophets other than Mohammed (pbuh).

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Btw Muslims also go to grave and pray for themselves, but they dont follow a prophet after AnHz Mohammad :saw:, so what´s now about their attitude, it´s OK or bad?

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My two cents on this…

chek these url.

Tehzeerul Naas

Muftul Ulama Molana Roomi States

Kitaab Khatamal Oliya

Shah waliullah Mohadith

These few examples are enough… I gues all these great Ulama are kafir too according to so called muslims aproved by gov of pakistan, Since they have same views on Khatamn Nabiyyen with Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat.

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Insha..and why Hazrat AbuBakar :razi: fought to nine imposters??? They didn’t claim to bring any shariaa, they claimed the prophethood just as Mirza did.

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So you are claiming, just after the demise of Holy Prophet (SAW), there was a need of prophet?

At that time, it was Khilafat-e-Rashida which was gifted by Allah to His people. And there is no Hadith or Quranic Verse which supports the prophethood just after the demise of Holy Prophet (SAW). If there is, show me! That is why Hadhrat Abu Bakar fought them because he knew that those were imposters.

But we do have prophecies and Verses of Quran in support of Imam Mehdi and Promised Messiah. And Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) claimed to be THAT reformer which is prophecied by Holy Prophet (SAW). The only issue is whether he is false or true prophet? And that is upto the people of age to recognize by praying to Allah and Wisdom given to them.

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OK so Zaki you're saying that those were imposters but not Mirza.

Now please reply to my thread in which I am asking the Quranic and Hadith references for Mehdi in the correct context (not what Mirza saying like.....the rehmat ul lialameen was said for me, we all know this is one his jokes). Reply to my other thread which I opened just for this purpose to testify what Quran and Hadith tell us about the Mehdi and what signs Mirza carried, and what is Mehdi's goal and tasks, and what are the achievements of Mirza being Mehdi or promissed Messiah.
Please reply to that thread, no Ahmedi has replied to it, eventhough it is opened for over 24 hours now. I am dying to see Mirza's achievements being Mehdi or Promissed Messiah. Phhullllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeez!