I’m interested in finding out a bit about having a separate state, Khalistan.
I believe it’s the Sikh community in India that wants a separate state. Is there any other religious or other ethnic group that supports it?
Also, what are the reasons behind having another state?
How long has it been going on for and what first prompted it?
How likely is it that they would be able to get a separate state?
What percentage of the community supports it and does it get support from the members of Sikh faith from other parts of the world?
Is there any other national or international involvement?
Is there anything else that could be of help in better understanding it?
I’ve always been interested in learning about it; however, I never really had the time to go through books or articles over it. At first I confused it with carrying a kirpan (knife, I believe) and the bracelet, but I realized that is part of their faith for some other reason. A bit of background would be very helpful.
Thank you.
I heard or read this movement had its hay day during the 80's, but I have not heard much from it so far. Anyways, I don't know how they will gain Khalistan, unless they want to give some consessions. Afterall, they want Lahore as their capital (as I have heard).
point to note indian army is more than 50% sikh community and had this movemtn public suppot it doesn;t take much to start a civil war with that kind of presence in military........and the gentleman who supprssed these fringe khalistani elements is none other than the much esteemed K P S Gill....
Why is it that the Sikh community in Canada wants this state in existence more than the one in India? Unless Sikhs in Canada initially left India because they weren't satisfied and are willing to return if a separate state comes into existence.
first of all sikhs need india and india need sikhs for mutual protection because they live in border with pakistan. separate sikh country will be swollowed by pakistan and their idenity and religen will be erased.they fought bravely agianst
invaders.
every two bit loony these days wants the grandeur of separate state........ what satisfcation crap even a cursory glance would suggest sikh community are the chosen oenfor development in india....... statistically speaking some fringe loony element are always there in any society and when they get foreng backing (read pakisani) and freedom expression (read democracy) then their voice reverberates more..........
as I have mentioned had their movement even slightest of public support it has been too ways to start a civil riot....... since it hasn't happened so i rest my case.......
Sadiyah, you have your answers in quotes above... Though you aren't reading it to get answers. Let me summarise and add what we know and Indian side of the story.... I hope against hope that people will leave it at that rather than starting a Abuse Hindu, India tirade....
During partition 1947, since there were already agreement on breaking the nation and British, Muslim League and Congress have agreed on that. It sort of become free for all, Hence Sikhs, Ambedkar and I know many other demanded separate nation. Though differences between others weren't as big as Jinnah and Congress. Hence others could sit with Congress across the table and discuss issues. Hence Sikhs got state, Ambedkar got to head the new constitution making body and so forth.... India got its constitution and everything went fine for till Bhinderwale came on scene. There is theory that Bhinderwale was created by Congress (Mrs Gandhi) to counter increasing powers of Akali Dal, and he turned against her itself. This did lead to a movement for separate country. There was strong support from ISI - Pakistan for the movment and there were militants after militants were trained in Pakistani camps ( You can despute that), hence movement grew and became really strong. Till KPS Gill took over Punjab police and brought state under control. Many of the militants at that time ran to Canada, since for greater opportunities there have been migration of Sikhs to Canada, and UK, and these militants found some support.
Now these people are staying in Canada and UK and collect money for Kahlistan, since that the bread and butter. There are always a small minority who will get excited about the notion and pay up. Hence you keep hearing about it ..
At the same time, when these donors want some action, these people come to India and make some speeches......... :)
In general voting percentage in all the assembly/national elections in last 10 years have been more than 50%......
I believe it's the Sikh community in India that wants a separate state. Is there any other religious or other ethnic group that supports it?
<< Sikh community doesn't want a separate state, some of them use it to incite passion and get money, No other community has till date shown support to it except Pakistan support to militants during its worst phase>>
Also, what are the reasons behind having another state?
<< Above post clarifies the points>>
How long has it been going on for and what first prompted it?
<< Above post clarifies that >>
How likely is it that they would be able to get a separate state?
<< Major majority of them even during hey day of militancy were happy in Indian union, as of now they don't want it. So please don't make statement as they are suppressed here, "How likey they will get it?" Question could be..
How likely small small minority of militants supported from externally will be able to destabilize the region... Answer is = at this moment that percentage seems to be NIL.
Though we were single nation within my and may be during your fathers' life time, so I refuse to look in crystal ball, Though chances of that happening today is as good as Pakistan India again becoming single country.>>
What percentage of the community supports it and does it get support from the members of Sikh faith from other parts of the world?
<< Can't get clear answer on that, though you can count these in at best in hunderds, since even rallies in Canada aren't getting more than few 100 people to come out and walk>>
Is there any other national or international involvement?
<< Organizations yes,,, Movement NO>>
Is there anything else that could be of help in better understanding it?
<< Yes - forget it, dont get swayed by people on this forum who have only one obsession is of abusing India and Hindus, all of us have our problems>>
I've always been interested in learning about it; however, I never really had the time to go through books or articles over it. At first I confused it with carrying a kirpan (knife, I believe) and the bracelet, but I realized that is part of their faith for some other reason. A bit of background would be very helpful.
Thank you.
<< Sikh faith was created as warrior community against Muslim rule of Mughals within in Hindus, most of the converts were Jats (warrior community) of that area>>
Hindus and Sikhs marry each other absolutely fine, and infact it has nothing to do with love, in Punjabis its part of normal match makiing.
Yes, Riots after murder of Indira Gandhi by absolutely lost Congressmen was also one of the major reason for Sikhs to feel alienated. Though with consistent work from NGOs, community leaders and Democracy have made thing better and filled those wounds.........
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I believe it's the Sikh community in India that wants a separate state.
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No. None at all.
Only some filthry rich NRI Sikhs in UK do.
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Is there any other religious or other ethnic group that supports it?
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None.
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Also, what are the reasons behind having another state?
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Fanaticism for Khalistan.
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How long has it been going on for and what first prompted it?
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It has been eradicated from India, the way small-pox was eradiated.
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How likely is it that they would be able to get a separate state?
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Zero in India.
However, Pakistan can be a major target since many Sikh holy sites are in Pakistan also.
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What percentage of the community supports it and does it get support from the members of Sikh faith from other parts of the world?
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Support in India--Zero (even the Akal Takht of Sikhs, the Shiromani Gurudwara Prabandhak, the umbrella organization of Sikhs DO NOT SUPPORT IT).
Support from some rich NRI Sikhs in UK--100%
Support from Pakistani forum posters, media & Mautarma Shireen Mazari--200%
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Is there any other national or international involvement?
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None.
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Is there anything else that could be of help in better understanding it?
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Google.