Key Indian satellite launch fails

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Actually the Russian cryogenic stage becomes operational **at the final stage **after a successful launch. This happens when the satellite is already in a lower orbit. Monday's failure occured due to one of the Indian boosters malfunctioning soon after launch.
These boosters have successfully launched 3 other sub 2-tonne into orbit successfully since 2001.

So a success rate of 75% is not bad.

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Some crumbs for the vultures this weekend.

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No no no just crow indigenous indigenous indigenous indigenous indigenous …LOL… But if you crow indigenous paint that would be more realistic with “indigenous” on its own you are half way there. :slight_smile:

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Lets see you guys rebut these facts -

SLV-3 E1 first launch on Aug 10 79 failed, but we have had 3 successful launches after that

ASLV-D1 and D2 failed but after that all launches have been a success

PSLV launches have had 8 success and one failure

GSLV has had only one failure.

Total number of launches = 21

Total number of failures = 5

This is a program run on shoestring budget, hampered by the senile idiots in the parliament and petty minded bureaucrats. ISRO is also greatly feared by the western nations as it launch costs are 1/3rd of international programs. It has always been under sanctions and denied technology citing dubious dual use conditions.

Now, I dont mean to rub it in, can you give me the # of launches from the Pakistan Space department ?

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ROFL.. Indians have blamed ISI for this failure!! :smiley:

Why Indian Agni III & INSAT-4C failed? Is it sabotage?
MIL/IR, Jul 11, 2006. Sasi Sukumaran

New Delhi, Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - India has an estimated 200 nuclear warheads and she is further developing long-range missiles as a defence strategy against her neighbors China and Pakistan. But Agni III failed to take off on Sunday, with the maiden test firing of 3500 km and so is the case with Insat - 4C, which flopped on Monday.

India’s Agni III, having a range of 3,500 km, failed to clear its maiden test, 5 minutes after its launch; N-Capable Missile fell into sea barely 1,000 km away. The question arises that its first launch of lifting it to 12 km was perfect but why it lost its height as second stage.

Its test was first set in 2003 but that ran into some technical snag. In 2005, the launch was deferred keeping in mind the sensitivities involving India-US nuclear deal.

A day after Agni III crashed into the Bay of Bengal, a rocket carrying India’s heaviest communication satellite so far, Insat - 4C, lifted off from Sriharikota at 5.38 pm but within a minute, it veered from its trajectory, disintegrating into flaming components.

This cost of Insat - 4C worked out to be Rs. 96 + 160 crore, including the cost of the delivery vehicle, a multi-range rocket that was taking it to its geo-synchronous orbit.

Who is to blame for Insat - 4 C?

ISRO Chief G. Madhavan Nair blamed the failure on a strap-on motor, which helps scientists on the ground steer the rocket and that made the rocket to go out of control. Scientists press a destruct button so that it might not fail on a populated area.

The failures suggest clear sabotage somewhere for which Madhavan Nair has said that sabotage would be investigated.

According to Dr. Raj Baldev, Cosmo Theorist from India, whose comments are given below:

"This sabotage is evident. If Insat - 4C had been successful and become operational, it would have boosted India’s direct-to-home TV service and news-gathering capabilities for 10 years thereby enabling India to earn millions of dollars by launching satellites of other nations.

**Dr. Raj Baldev said, “It is a clear sabotage; enemy is stronger in intelligence commanding some one within our scientists and misdirecting the assembly program. This failure is caused by sabotage and has lowered the image of India who was planning to put unmanned mission to the Moon on one hand and trying to develop a proper delivery system for nuclear weapons on the other; both programs have gone with the winds for the time being?” **

"Our security does not seem to be up to the mark anywhere. Even security breach on PM’s special flight was detected. The missing bottles of whisky could be anything, it could have been a negative device placed inside the board, but fortunately it did not happen,"Dr. Raj Baldev said.

november_rain, we are discussing india’s latest failure here.. why are you trying to drag Pakistan into this topic? No one deny this fact that indians are ahead in space technology.

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ROFL.. Indians have blamed ISI for this failure!!

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Point # 1 - Investigations will also happen to see if there was a security breach or sabotage, which is common after a failure of this magnitude. We are a democracy and everybody is accountable. Unlike Pakistan, where Generals claim success on every front with high 120 % rate. Point # 2 - ISRO Chief G. Madhavan Nair blamed the failure on a strap-on motor, which is the official point of view. Point # 3 - Does Dr. Raj Baldev, represent ISRO ? please prove it. Point # 4 - I did not find ISI mentioned anywhere. Last time I checked ISI was beating up a poor Brigadier (retd). Please check the Dawn papers for the details. Point # 5 - People living in glass houses, should not run around naked. Since Pakistan has zero scientific base and nil-space-technology, they have no aukaat on commenting the success or failure of neighbouring country's scientific endeavours.

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As I said earlier, I am not talking about other forums, I do not visit other forums. I like this forum and hence I visit it :) .

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Thanks for acknowledging that and I was wondering all the time how stupid can one get to deny the reality. I was wrong about you on that one.
No name calling :D.

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Its okay to visit only this forum, but what I mean to say is that you can't just look at intention of someone and start name-calling, anyone's intention can be challenged by anyone even if it was sincere, get the drift? So instead of challenging the intention, why not focus on the topic at hand?

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I understand where you are coming from, but believe me Captain1, I am not that stupid to not understand the intention of person by the number of posts they have made in the past. Anyways no point in talking about something which I cant prove and you cant disprove.

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Here is a link on ISRO from FAS

http://www.fas.org/spp/guide/india/agency/isro.html

Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO)

Despite its limited resources, India has and is continuing to develop a broad-based space program with indigenous launch vehicles, satellites, control facilities, and data processing. Since its first satellite was orbited by the USSR in 1975 and its first domestic space launch was conducted in 1980, India has become a true space-faring nation and an example to other Eurasian countries wishing to move into the space age. Today’s Indian remote sensing, communications, and meteorological satellites are comparable to many similar space systems operated by more affluent countries, and by the end of the decade India may be one of only a half dozen countries/organizations with a geostationary launch capability.
The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) was established in 1969 and is currently under the Department of Space. The Chairman of ISRO since 1984, Prof. U. R. Rao, stepped down and was replaced in April, 1994 by Krishnaswamy Kasturirangan, who also carries the titles Secretary of the Department of Space and Chairman of the Space Commission. With headquarters at Bangalore, ISRO now boasts of a workforce of approximately 17,000 (References 25-27)](http://www.fas.org/spp/guide/india/agency/isro.html#ref25).
The corporate headquarters of the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) is located in Bangalore, but, activities related to satellites, launch vehicles, and applications are carried out at numerous centers throughout the country. The development of the sensors and payloads is the responsibility of ISRO’s Satellite Application Center (SAC) in Ahmedabad. ISRO Satellite Center (ISAC) in Bangalore is responsible for the design, development, assembly, and testing of satellites. Vikram Sarabhai Space Center (VSSC), at Tiruvananthapuram, is responsible for launch vehicles. Liquid propulsion modules, including cryogenic engines, are developed at the Liquid Propulsion Systems Center located near Tiruvananthapuram. Satellite launching takes place from Sriharikota, north of Madras, referred to as SHAR. Hassan, near Bangalore, is where the Master Control facilities for satellite station keeping are located. The reception and processing facilities for remote sensing data are available at National Remote Sensing Agency (NRSA), in Hyderabad.
The annual ISRO space budget period runs from 1 April to the following 31 March. From the 1993-1994 budget year, appropriations increased by about 12% to nearly 8 billion Rupees (compared with approximately 5 billion Rupees for 1992-1993) with an even sharper increase forecast for the following year. Slightly more than 40% of the annual outlays are designated for launch vehicle development and operations. A separate government allotment is given to the Antrix Corporation which is not yet self-sufficient.
In May 1992 the U.S. Department of State imposed trade sanctions against ISRO, based on its missile proliferation activities. In part, these sanctions prohibited ISRO from receiving U.S. exports for which a validated export license or reexport authorization was required for a two year period.

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Well, this website is fake news site. There is no such field called “Cosmo Theorist”, and if there would have been speculations about sabotage, it would have been in Indian media.