I will say tax both, who are rich and who are trying to get rich. I don't find any distinction. we can't reduce our trillions of dollars of debt by sympathizing with high income earners. And if you still think that you are poor after making 200,000 yearly than you should think seriously about moving to Podunk, Idaho.
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I will say tax both, who are rich and who are trying to get rich. I don't find any distinction. we can't reduce our trillions of dollars of debt by sympathizing with high income earners. And if you still think that you are poor after making 200,000 yearly than you should think seriously about moving to Podunk, Idaho.
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This is why I am proudly Republican. Within the DEM party, there is a disproportionate number of freeloaders who won't be happy until everyone is reduced to the least common denominator of being poor. They would rather place obstacles in front of hard working people keeping them from achieving success than adopting policies that reward hard work and effort. So these wealthy fat cat white liberals pander to the poor Agent Smith's of the world telling them they're on their side. Once elected, these liberal fat cats do just enough to pacify the fools who vote for them, adopt policies and legislation that keeps their own wealth and standard of living secure and cause nothing but problems for those of us trying to better our station in life.
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This is why I am proudly Republican. Within the DEM party, there is a disproportionate number of freeloaders who won't be happy until everyone is reduced to the least common denominator of being poor. They would rather place obstacles in front of hard working people keeping them from achieving success than adopting policies that reward hard work and effort. So these wealthy fat cat white liberals pander to the poor Agent Smith's of the world telling them they're on their side. Once elected, these liberal fat cats do just enough to pacify the fools who vote for them, adopt policies and legislation that keeps their own wealth and standard of living secure and cause nothing but problems for those of us trying to better our station in life.
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It seems like someone is listening lots of right wing talk radio. Dude, I am not a democrat either, and I am not going to vote for either of candidates. Any thing I say is my personal opinion. If you think that helping the unprivileged in our society with rich people tax money is wrong than I don’t need to say anything else. In Islam it’s called Zakaat. I am assuming that you are not a Muslim, so may not know about zakaat. But if you are Muslim then I apologize for my wrong assumption.
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It seems like someone is listening lots of right wing talk radio. Dude, I am not a democrat either, and I am not going to vote for either of candidates. Any thing I say is my personal opinion. If you think that helping the unprivileged in our society with rich people tax money is wrong than I don’t need to say anything else. In Islam it’s called Zakaat. I am assuming that you are not a Muslim, so may not know about zakaat. But if you are Muslim then I apologize for my wrong assumption.
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Agent sahib, if you are not going to vote, than what is all the fuss about. Helping unprivliged in Islam is not compulsory, Zakat is roughly 2% on your savings, not earnings. See the distinction there, I sure hope so. Plus, democrats can cry all they want about economy and unemployment, every educated person knows that in light of all the events especially after 9/11 recession was just a matter of time. 9/11 had a huge impact on US and global economy. I will try to come up with some other agenda, if I were you.
P.S. You want to support a person who threw away his medals he recieved for his butchery errr bravery ...which one was it....help me out here...what did he say last time, was it bravery or killing of innocnents?
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Republicans had the office for 12 years, starting in the 80s, and couldn't get the economy straight but when Clinton got it all and left the office with trillion dollars in surplus it was all their doing. Now that we have trillion dollar in deficit, and it’s claimed its all because of Dems .. great logic BTW.
Anyway, would any of you here care to explain to me where the mantra of balanced budget went? Or is it not important anymore?
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Anyway, would any of you here care to explain to me where the mantra of balanced budget went? Or is it not important anymore?
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what are you talking about Willis? US is at war, what balanced budget?
^ That's what makes Bush's tax cuts so irresponsible. He took us from the largest surplus to the largest deficit in history to appease his wealthy constituency and to create a short term stimulous which is causing serious and long term damage to our economy. These policies are out of touch with reality and American values. That is morally wrong and far outweighs any moral deficiencies Clinton may have had.
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^ That's what makes Bush's tax cuts so irresponsible. He took us from the largest surplus to the largest deficit in history to appease his wealthy constituency and to create a short term stimulous which is causing serious and long term damage to our economy. These policies are out of touch with reality and American values. That is morally wrong and far outweighs any moral deficiencies Clinton may have had.
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Wake up Seminole. That "short term stimulus" you love to talk about has our economy chugging along quite nicely. In case you missed it, GW wants the tax cuts made permanent. Unless institutionalized, deficit spending does not cause "serious and long term damage to our economy." We didn't tax our way out of the last big deficits. We grew our way out of them. Never in our history has a tax increase stimulated economic growth.
For the majority of Americans, whatever money was saved in Federal tax cuts has been made up in the form of higher local taxes, increased tuition OR underspending on vital programs like homeland security.
How can we say this deficit spending is not already institutionalized? With the way this government is spending we are in the red for the forseeable future, and this administration is supposed to be conservative!
At the beginning of the longest economic boom in American history, Clintion signed into law what Republicans like to refer to as the largest tax increase in hisotry. Fiscal discipline is what helps the economy, not tax cuts for the wealthy. True, by the time we experiened surpluses again (the last time the Republicans ran up big deficits), the booming economy was responsible, but that was due to fiscal responsibility, not tax cuts.
Irresponsible spending, irresponsible tax cuts, irresponsible foreign policy, irresponsible border control, irresponsible protection against further attacks, exclusionary social agenda, horrible health care policy, environmental policy and overall lack of domestic agenda will all come together to continue the grand tradition of 1 term Bush presidencies.