Kenya for Test Status

Kenyans are into SEMIS, an achievment never accomplished by any qualifiers.Infect its an achievement any test playing nation will be proud of.

They have beaten 3 Test playing nations BD,SL & ZIM.
I think its right time ICC acknowledges Kenyas great performance and give them TEST status.

What do you guys think… :slight_smile:

I fully support your views. Also in the past they have beaten West Indies and India and during the recent tournamnet in Nairobi gave very good display against both Pakistan and Australia.

They certainly deserve the status more then BD.

they will get test status in 3 years time according to the icc

I strongly oppose the idea.

Kenya does not have any emerging young players to fill the shoes of Tikolos and Odumbes. They don't play cricket outside of Nairobi. It is a very limited pool of players to chose from.

I am however, all for ICC to help this nation build and promote cricket facilities in their country. ICC needs to make proper usage of the millions of dollars profit they make from every tournament.

I agree, Kenya is far better team than Bdesh. Bdesh got test status after beating Pak, Kenya should get it since they beat 3 teams.

I strongly oppose the idea too. Succedding in ODIs and TESTS are two different things. We have not seen Kenya play in tests, have we ?? So why should they be given TEST status based on their ODI performance ?

I Think ICC should make a schedule for Kenya playing all the test nations in unofficial tests for at least 2 years, to give them a better exposure in the longer version of games. Once they achieve the required exposure and are able to earn their respect from the opposition, they can be given Test Status. If we give them Test Status now, they along with Bangladesh will become the laughing stock of the cricket world.
Kenya may be a better team than Bangladesh, But are they good enough to become a TEST NATION ??

Arey Asif bhai yaar kabhi toh samjha karo. :)

Your point is valid, but at least the process should start.

Personally I think they will be more in Zimbabwean mould than BD.

wat about holland? :halo:

remove BD and …pakistan? :hehe:

and bring in kenya and holland :smiley:

what was the criteria for granting Test status to Bengladesh?

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Arey Asif bhai yaar kabhi toh samjha karo. :)

Your point is valid, but at least the process should start.

Personally I think they will be more in Zimbabwean mould than BD.
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Agree with Ehsan Bhai and Nescio.
ICC should have time frame for givign KENY as test status wnd within next 2-3 years they should have status.
No one has achieved so much as KENYAN before becoming TEST nations.What was achievement of SL,BD and ZIM.

If no of TEST playing nation is an issue then Drop BD and PAK. ;)

I disagree, Kenya may have come this far but how can you guarentee that they will be performing at this level consistently. I strongly opposed Bangladesh's inclusion in test and so did Kenya's.
In the begining of the tournament Kenya didn't have a single sponsor to sponsor them througout the WC.
And plus they don't even have a domestic system to my knowledge.
I agree with ICC, we have to look at their performance for the next couple years and see how they fair and then decide if they deserve test status.

I know they would be more like Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka, But If you remember when Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka got their test status they had players like Roy Dias, Duleep Mendis, Houghton, Flower etc in their teams and these teams had played unofficial test matches/3 day games for at least 4-5 years before getting the Test Status. On the other hand Bangladesh was given the Test Status simply to boost the Asian Lobby and the result is well known.

I think ICC should make a start and let all the major test nations play Kenya at least one series in next two years and after that they can grant the test status to Kenya.

AQ bhai - BD test status was a mistake and taking it back would be another mistake, Instead ICC should plan a tour in such a way that If BD plays only ODIs with the TEST teams but 3-4 days games with the state/provincial teams. Because right now I dont think Kenya/BD are good enough to beat any provincial team in a 4 day game.

Umair - ICC should do more than just looking into the performance, otherwise the amount of money they are generating out of this world cup is going to rot in their coffers. So why not make a better use of it and help Kenya set up a proper domestic structure with the help of former International cricketers.

Kenya have got a handy team right now, but I agree with those guys who are saying that they should prove themselves over a period of 2-3 years. Look at the BD debacle to see just why.

I think comparing Kenya with BD is unfair. Before they were admitted to tests theyhad only beaten Pakistan once.

Look at the scalps Kenya have got: West Indies, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

Exact timing and procedure of how thye should be admitted to the test arena can be worked out but they should not be made to suffer due to the inadequacies of BD.

Well the main reason Bangladesh were admitted because Mr Dalmiya was head of ICC at the time and he wanted to make Asian Union more powerful than others like someone mentioned above.
Beating Pakistan was just a coverup, no team should get a test status by beating 2 or 3 teams, they have to perform consistently.

The best way to prove Kenya's ability would be for them to play A teams from test playing nations and also playing against county teams in Australia and England.

I remember a year ago Kenya played some test matches against local teams in Sri Lanka and they were beaten badly. If ICC give test status to Kenya, it would turnout same as the current Bangali record.

I think they should have league systems like the major test nations should play only other major test nations, and teams like Kenya and Bangladesh should be in a different league joined by other teams like Namibia, Holland, Scotland, UAE, Canada.

I think its too late in Bangladesh's case because they are already exposed to other test nations.

Umair,

u r forgetting some other factors about BD being given a test playing nation status. First is they have regular first class cricket teams and tournaments, unlike Kenya, Holland or Namibia. That means they have infrastructure. And second is, BD used to be a part of undivided India and then for a few years a part of pakistan and both used to be british colonies or more euphemistically commonwealth nations. And most of the cricketing nations r commonwealth nations.They have produced some good players too.Pakistan was given a test nation statuts after partition on the same ground. And third reason in my opinion( I might be very well wrong) is the large population BD.

But however, I must add THEY HAVE BEEN BIG DISAPPOINTMENT so far.

Peace!

assalamoalikum :jhanda:

i quote from asif_k post:

**I strongly oppose the idea too. Succedding in ODIs and TESTS are two different things. We have not seen Kenya play in tests, have we ?? So why should they be given TEST status based on their ODI performance ? **

bhaijaan what u have said above doesn’t make sense, bangladesh were given test status based on their odi performance, they weren’t playing tests inorder to get test status, we will only find out how good kenya are by giviing them credit based on their odi performance, there is no other means available to test them at the moment. we all know based on their current performance/s that they are goood enough, certainly better than bangla… mathccheee desh

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Umair,

u r forgetting some other factors about BD being given a test playing nation status. First is they have regular first class cricket teams and tournaments, unlike Kenya, Holland or Namibia.
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This could be one of the reasons, but the other reasons "commonwealth" are simply incorrect. ICC does not represent (supposedly) CW.

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And third reason in my opinion( I might be very well wrong) is the large population BD.
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I don't think so.

they shud b given a Test Status.. they r way better then the bangladesh.. kenya is the first team to qualify into semi-s without getting the test-status...
they defeated Srilanka.. zimbabwe... and wutelse...

Since when has Bangladesh become a criteria for jusdging the status of new cricket nations?. It is not only unfair to Kenya but also to bangladesh.