Keep a beard ?? Why shud I ???

muslima_1 · January 18, 2006, 9:00pm

Re: Keep a beard ?? Why shud I ???

it really depends on who u follow
theys no point every1 tryin to prove there own points coz according to different islamic scholars theres different rulings really depends on whether you follow hanafi,malaki etc

but wats the point goin to into it coz whoeva wants to keep a beard will keep it even if it is sunnah and whoeva doesn't want to keep it wont keep it even if it is waajib.
but ppl who say its sunnah an waajib r both right

KARAKUSH · January 19, 2006, 4:44am

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tsk tsk,how rude.

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for once she makes sense.

Lots of information is there.Isnt it all about Taqwa? u stop doing certain things on the supposition that MAYBE it isnt right and i dont want to face ALLAHS wrath.for some its abt the Love for our Prophet(pbuh) and following in his footsteps.i dont have a beard but if i had one it isnt tickling u so wats the problem.

KARAKUSH · January 19, 2006, 4:58am

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Shahrazad's point of view in The Thousand and One Nights. To a woman who expresses a preference for youths without prickly moustaches and beards, she replies caustically:

"My sister, you are a fool...! Do you not know that a tree is beautiful when it has leaves...? A beard and moustaches are to a man what long hair is to a woman.... And yet you tell me to choose a beardless boy for a lover? Do you think that I would ever stretch myself out for love below a youth who, hardly mounted, thinks of dismounting; who, hardly stretched, thinks of relaxing; who, hardly knotted, thinks of unknotting; who, hardly arrived, thinks of going away; who, hardly stiffened, thinks of melting; who, hardly risen, thinks of falling, who, hardly laced, thinks of unlacing.... Undeceive yourself, poor sister! I will never leave a man who enlaces as soon as he sniffs, who stays when he is in, who fills himself when he is empty, who begins again when he has finished, whose moving is excellence, whose jerking is a gift, who is generous when he gives, and, when he pushes, pierces!"

i think the poet shud find his own Shahrazad.

KARAKUSH · January 19, 2006, 5:54am

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Interesting update

Are beards sexually attractive to women? In one study women were simply
asked if they found the beard attractive. Most said that they did not (Feinman
and Gill 1977). However, in a more subtle study, in which the level of beardedness of male stimulus faces was experimentally manipulated using Identi-kit pictures, physical attractiveness ratings were found to increase as the quantity of facial hair increased (Hatfield and Sprecher 1986). These results generalize to real faces. PeUegrini (1973) induced several students to shave off their beards in a stepwise fashion until they were completely clean-shaven and used photographs of the various stages as stimuli. Photographs depicting the full beards were rated, by both male and female subjects, as being better-looking and were also judged more favorably on a number of other dimensions including maturity, confidence, dominance, masculinity, courage, industriousness, and creativity.
They were also judged to be two years older. These data are consistent with the view that the beard enhances a man's attractiveness to women in terms of appearance and also in terms of the perception of desirable personality traits (e.g., social dominance, industriousness; see Buss 1989; Sadalla et al. 1987).
The behavioral evidence suggests that the beard increases perceived social
status. This may be attributable to the fact that it exaggerates another epigamic
trait of the face, the male chin (Thornhill and Gangestad 1993)

zamaroudzenith · January 24, 2006, 2:52am

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^^^
To all of you who keep beard in compulsion due to islamic trend of keeping beard!!! Consider it------

Totally personal one persons opinion
" sunnat is not to make your appearance like prophet Mohd.(SA)

IT was the reasons behind "what he used to do and how he used to potrait himself personality wise as well as his facial appearance."

kindly note people in those days used to:

*1) use camels and even prophet(SA) because science has not entered into such an advancement as today that WE have different kinds of vehicles trains and aeroplanes to travel. *

Do you believe it that today we should follow themeans of prophet Mohd. for travelling ---that is a camel--if not then----

those days there were no such nice kinds of raisors to decorate your beard, they only had QAINCHI , so they used to use it to trim their beard equal to their fist. The lenght of the beard was a fist long was not a hard and fast size. Every one usually has different size of fist. Infact he wanted that the beards should not become wavey, it should be cut straight ,so that appearance of all men with beard look pretty. **
*The proof is that he used to keep zulfeen, and dye his hair etc etc to look handsome. So my dear ones look hand some "ALLAH HO JAMEEL AND U HUB UL JAMAL" *
**So sunnat is to improving cleanliness , appearance , to maintain oneself as he used to maintain himself. Do nt forget he had never let his white hair to be seen; he used to dye them. HE used to brightened his teeth with the means he had then, "the maswak"

So do not feel bad if you do not keep beard, you and everyone of us, DO NOT TRAVEL ON CAMELS EVEN TO PERFORM HAJJ. AND MEN ARE ASKED TO CUT THEIR BEARD IN BIGGEST ARKANE DIN THAT IS HAJJ. THe remaining thing you can figure out your self. IN GOD'S EYES intention is everything.

If a lady in scarf is bad character and the one who wears just DOPATTA but she is INSAN BA AMAL.
She is better than the first one who only had MANZAR OF BEING MUSLIM. You can decide yourself too about it.
KHUDA HAFIZ

400BHP · February 11, 2006, 8:22pm

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NOT GU!LTY:

What Islam says About the Beard
From The Shari Length of the Beard by Mufti Afzal Elias, May Allah reward him abundantly, aameen.
Transferred to the web for the benefit of all Muslims by Islam.tc

This pamphlet is to emphasize the importance and the length of the beard. Many Muslims have queried regarding this point. I have also found that people prefer keeping a beard in imitation of what’s in vogue rather than that prescribed by Nabi (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam). A compilation of this nature has become important because the impact of the western way of life seems to be luring unwary Muslims into such a craze that the importance of the beard itself is being doubted and scoffed at.

To those who feel the issue is trivial to worry about, may ALLAH guide him. But to those who genuinely wish to learn and practice what is right, here are sufficient proofs from the Qur’an, Ahadeeth, and learned scholars.

Concerning Adherence to the Sunnah in the Holy Qur’an:

“O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you.” (Holy Quran 4:59)

"He who obeys the Messenger, obeys Allah. But if any turn away, We have not sent thee to watch over their (evil deeds). " (Holy Quran 4:80)

“O ye who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger, and turn not away from him when ye hear (him speak).” (Holy Quran 8:20)

“O ye who believe! give your response to Allah and His Messenger, when He calleth you to that which will give you life; and know that Allah cometh in between a man and his heart, and that it is He to Whom ye shall (all) be gathered.”(Holy Quran 8:24)

“Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exempler for him who hopes in Allah and the Final Day, and who remembers Allah.” (Holy Quran 33:21)

“Nor does he say of his own desires.
It is nought but revelation that is revealed.” (Holy Quran 53:3/4)

“What Allah has bestowed on His Messenger (and taken away) from the people of the townships,- belongs to Allah,- to His Messenger and to kindred and orphans, the needy and the wayfarer; in order that it may not (merely) make a circuit between the wealthy among you. So take what the Messenger gives you, and refrain from what he prohibits you. And fear Allah: for Allah is strict in Punishment.” (Holy Quran 59:7)

Importance of the Beard in the words of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam):

(1) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said “I have no connection with one who shaves, shouts and tears his clothing eg. in grief or affication.”

Reported by Abu Darda (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 501

(2) The teachings of Hadhrat Ammar Bin Yaasir, Abdullah Ibn Umar, Sayyidina Umar, Abu Hurairah and Jaabir (R.A.), indicate that ALL used to keep beards that were one fist length or more. Hadhrat Jaabir (R.A.) had said: “We used to grow long beards and only during Hajj and Umrah did we trim them to the required length (i.e. fist length).”

(3) Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Umar (R.A.) relates that: “He who imitates the kuffar (non-believers) and dies in that state, he will be raised up with them on the Day of Qiyamat (Judgement).”

(4) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) says: “Trim closely the moustache, and let the beard flow (Grow).”

Narrated Ibn Umar (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 498

(5) “Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) ordered us to trim the moustache closely and spare the beard” says Ibn Umar.

Muslim, Hadith no. 449

(6) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)said: “Act against contrary to the polythesists, trim closely the moustache and grow the beard.”

Reported by Ibn Umar (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 500

(7) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said “Trim closely the moustache and grow the beard.”

Reported by Abu Hurairah (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 501

(8) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: “Anyone who shaves has no claim to the mercy of Allah”

Reported by Ibn Abbas (R.A.) in Tibrabi

(9) Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Umar (R.A.) used to cut that portion (which exceeds the grip of the hand) of the beard.

Tirmidhi
The Beard according to the Great Imams of Jurisprudence

Hanafi

Imam Muhammed (R.A.) writes in his book “Kitabul Aathaar” where he relates from Imam Abu Hanifa (R.A.) who relates from Hadhrat Haytham (R.A.) who relates from Ibn Umar (R.A.) that he (Ibn Umar) used to hold his beard in his hand and cut off which was longer. Imam Muhammed (R.A.) says that this is what we follow and this was the decision of Imam Abu Hanifa. Therefore, according to Hanafies, to shorten the beard less than a FIST LENGTH is HARAAM and on this is IJMA (concensus of opinion).

Shafi’i

Imam Shafi (R.A.) in his Kitabul Umm states, “To shave the beard is HARAAM.” (Shari Minhaj dar Shara Fasl Aqueeqa).

Maaliki

Shekh Ahmad Nafarawi Maliki in the commentary of Imam Abu Zayed’s booklet states, “to shave the beard is without doubt haraam according to all Imams.” It is also mention in “Tamheed” which is a commentary of “Muatta” (Sunnan Imam Malik (R.A.)) that to shave the beard is HARAAM and among males the only ones to resort to this practice (of shaving) are the HERMAPHRODITES (persons who possess both male and female features and characteristics).

Hanbali

The Hanbalies in the famous Al-Khanie’a Hanbali Fatawa Kitab state that “to grow the beard is essential and to shave it is HARAAM.” Also in the Hanbali Mathab books “Sharahul Muntahaa” and “Sharr Manzoomatul Aadaab”, it is stated “The most accepted view is that it is HARAAM (prohibited to shave the beard).”

Also note, according to scholars of Islam: “To shave off the beard is unlawful (haraam) and one who shaves his beard is legally speaking an unrighteous fellow (FASIQ); hence, it is NOT PERMISSIBLE to appoint such a man as an Imam. To say Taraweeh behind such an Imam is MAKRUH-E-TAHRIMI (near prohibition)” (Shami Vol.1, p.523)

The Durre-Mukhtar states: “No one has called it permissible to trim it (the beard) less than FIST-LENGTH as is being done by some westernized Muslims and hermaphrodites.” (Vol. 2, p. 155). Also, “It is forbidden (haraam) for a man to cut off another’s beard.” (Vol. 5, p. 359).

Conclusion

Thus, a Muslim who shaves or shortens his beard is like a hermaphrodite, his Imamate near prohibition, his evidence is not valid, he will not have the right to vote or being voted for. Shaving and shortening the beard is the action of non-believers. Imam Ghazzali (RA) says: “Know that the key to total bliss (Saadah) lies in following the Sunnah and in emulating the life of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) in ALL that issues from him, and in ALL his doings even if it concerns the manner of his eating, rising, sleeping, and speaking. I do say thisin relation to rituals in worship ONLY because ther is no way neglecting the Sunnah reported of him in such matters - but what I say INCLUDES EVERY ASPECT of his daily life.” (Kitab al Arbain Addin, Cairo 1344, p. 89). Furthermore, in the Holy Qur’an, Allah told Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) to say:

"Say: “If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Quran 3:31)

The daily recitation of a band of angels of Allah is “Holy is the Being who adorned men with beards and women with braids” (Takmela e Bahr al Raiq, Vol. 3, p. 331)

Lastly, Allah Ta’ala says in the Holy Qur’an: “And when the true believers are called to Allah and His Rasul (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) [to accept and practice the law and commands of Allah and His Rasul (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)] that he may pass judgement upon them, their ONLY reply is ‘We hear and obey.’ Such men shall surely prosper.” (24:51)

THE CALL IS TO GROW A FIST LENGTH BEARD, LET US HEAR AND OBEY TO PROSPER.

The Blessed Beard… Grow it, what’s so hard to understand?
Commentary by Islam.tc

Muslims are overcome with western influence in their lives and it’s easy to forget, nay, neglect the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him). Little do these Muslims realize the magnitude of their actions in imitating Kufaar (see Hadith section). This is a truly shocking! Hopefully the information presented herein will enlighten those. And then there are others who claim that the matters concerning beards is a “little” issue not worthy of mention nor practice. To them I say get off the denial bandwagon, you’re a Muslim! Follow the Prophet (Peace be upon him) in all aspects of life, for he was the best of examples. I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve mistaken a Muslim brother (outside of the Masjid) for a kaafir on account of his clean-shaven, well oiled, face. How can I say “Assalaamu Alaikum Brother!” when I do not know if he is a Muslim. Yet that very brother then wonders why he was ignored! Sure, he can tell if others are Muslim on account of their beard, but what about himself? From one brother to another, I say: “Grow a beard, then, since it also promotes Brotherhood in the real world. Stand with your Brothers, be one. We know you think you are handsome without it (a beard), but who cares? What matters is how Allah (S.W.T.) sees you. And when you do grow a beard, don’t mock the Sunnah, please grow it correctly, i.e. FIST LENGTH. That is the prescribed length and no shorter (see Hadeeth section)…” Peace.
http://www.islam.tc/beard/beard.html

For Allah’s sake, you guys just stop debating!!! Especially when things have pointed out clearly with references in the Holy Qur’an and Ahadith of Rasulullah (saw). ^^^View the quoted post above^^^

Some people just wanna follow deen the easy way, pick all the easy bits out of deen, compile together all that suits THEM, and try to follow deen. We never try to go against our nafs. Anyway, most of the times the outcome of a debate= is a headache…So How about doing something that doesnt harm anybody >>> please refer below…

Pray Salaatul-Istikhara, do mashwara with Allah (swt), seek His Guidance in the matter. Your intention should be to simply seek guidance from Allah (swt) as to whether keeping a beard is necessary or not and is one committing a sin if he doesnt keep it - and ask Allah (swt) to guide you.

…Simple as.

May Allah (swt) guide us all.
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