So there is this delimma going on that I have been told my mom and khala and also some aunts i have heard that we should not fast for one day, but for at least for 2 days. Was planning to fast on 10th muharram, but now I have been told that oh if I want to fast, I gotta make sure I do it for 2 days straight up.
Superstitions I have been told are that Yazeed fasted for one day asking the head of Imam Hussain. Then another stories I heard that Jews fast only for one day so we should always fast 2 days in a row.
Serioulsy I am so tired of hearing this stuff. Why can’t we keep things simple.
Anyone had heard this stuff?
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ashura fasting nothing to do with karbala events....
as advised by the prophet (saw) u shud either fast 9,10 or 10,11....
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Salam Jal Pari,
Its simple really, to offset yourself from the fasting of the Jews or Other people of the book, you can do it two days instead of one. Either the 9th and the 10th, or the 10th and the 11th.
Thats all.
Wsalam
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thanks guys....my question was why is it neccessary to do two days or try to offset myself from jews or any other group? I am not fasting for same reason or purpose as these people so what does it matter. So If I don't have strength and opportunity to do for 2 days, is it not better to try at least doing it for a day.
I fasted only today on 10th of Moharram, I am not sure if we can't fast for one day or not. I am sure of it that I am following Sunnah-e-Rasul (Swt), not anyone else.
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Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas radiAllahu anhu: When the Messenger of Allah sallAllahu alayhi wa salaam fasted on the day of Ashura and commanded that it should be observed as a fast, they (his Companions) said to him: Messenger of Allah, it is a day which the Jews and Christians hold in high esteem. Thereupon the Messenger of Allah sallAllahu alayhi wa salaam said: When the next year comes, God willing, we would observe fast on the 9th. But the Messenger of Allah sallAllahu alayhi wa salaam died before the advent of the next year. [MUSLIM]
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You should not fast on these days.
Especially if jews did so.
You should not fast on these days.
Especially if jews did so.
After the hijrah when the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) came to Madinah, he found that the Jews of Madinah also used to observe this day with fasting. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) asked them the reason of their fasting on this day. They said, “This is a blessed day. On this day Allah saved the Children of Israel from their enemy (in Egypt) and so Prophet Musa fasted on this day giving thanks to Allah.” The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “We have more claim to Musa than you.” He fasted on that day and commanded Muslims to fast on this day. (Al-Bukhari, hadith 1865)
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According to Jewish calender, the twelve regular months are: Nisan (30 days) Iyar (29 days), Sivan (30 days), Tammuz (29 days), Av (30 days), Elul (29 days), Tishrei (30 days), Cheshvan (29 or 30 days), Kislev (29 or 30 days), Tevet (29 days), Shevat (30 days), and Adar (29 days). In the leap years an additional month, Adar I (30 days) is added after Shevat, and the regular Adar is referred to as "Adar II".
There is no fast on 9th or 10th of Nisan. There is one on 14th of Nisan.
Jan 9th, 2009, in jewish year is Tevet 12, 5769. so may be Moharram is equal to Tevet (or Tebet) in Jewish calender
10 Tebet is a Fast Day in jews - known for Siege of Jerusalem in 588 BCE.
On the 10th of Tebet, the armies of the Babylonian emperor Nebuchadnezzar laid siege to Jerusalem. Thirty months later, on Tammuz 17, the city walls were breached, and on Av 9th of that year, the Holy Temple was destroyed. The Jewish people were then exiled to Babylonia for 70 years.
I don't think children of Isreal were saved on this day.
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based on what I posted, I say there is a problem with this hadees (Al-Bukhari, hadith 1865). Jews were definetly not saved on that day. Can anybody tell me if its a "zaeef" (weak) hadees?
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maybe they were saved the same way that, centuries later, iraqis were "saved" by the Americans...by killing them. :)
based on what I posted, I say there is a problem with this hadees (Al-Bukhari, hadith 1865). Jews were definetly not saved on that day. Can anybody tell me if its a "zaeef" (weak) hadees?
the jews do indeed fast on the day when moosa (as) was saved from fir'awn....
go ask any rabbi and he will tell u....
they have now played with their calendar adding an additional 13th month to it, otherwise both jew and muslim calendar follow the moon....
and the jews in madinah at the time of the prophet (saw) were arabs so maybe they were fasting on the corresponding date to the arabic calendar....
maybe they were fasting on the corresponding date to the arabic calendar....
"May be"??? so you are assuming this.
What I am telling you is fact, that 10th of Moharram, was 10th of Tevet for jews. and yes Jews fasted on that day, I don't need to check with a rabi for this. Their calender is published on internet, so 10th moharram(10th Tevet), a fasting day for Jews, no disputes there.
Only issue is, that 10th Tevet for jews, marks anniversory of a sad day. The day emperor Nebuchadnezzar laid siege to Jerusalem. hope you get my point, I am not making up any of this, nor I am assuming anything.
What rules do Jews follow when they fast? Are they not suppose to kill Palestinian children on that day?