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Khakis feeling agitated - thenews.com.pk

**ISLAMABAD: The Pakistani security establishment feels extremely agitated over a plethora of statements coming from the highest judicial circles, coupled with some recent court decisions which it believes were tantamount to undermining the Pakistan Army as an institution which should have been credited not only for strengthening democracy but also for ensuring the independence of the judiciary.

**Even though the restoration of the superior judiciary in 2009 became possible due to combined struggle of the lawyers, civil society, political parties and media, there are those in the security establishment who think otherwise and insist that the defiant judiciary owes its current independence to Army Chief General Ashfaq Kayani who had played a vital role at the time of the March 2009 long march by the opposition to ensure the restoration of 100-plus deposed judges of superior courts, including Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry.

The most recent development which seems to have really angered the establishment is the acceptance of an application by the Islamabad High Court, challenging the extension given to General Kayani as Army Chief in 2012. But the most disturbing aspect of the petition for the khaki leadership is the impression created by the petitioner that the COAS was indulging in politics. Col (R) Inamur Rahim, the petitioner, has alleged in his November 12 application with the chief justice of the Islamabad High Court that the COAS had issued a political statement on November 5. While seeking an early hearing of his intra-court appeal challenging Kayani’s extension, the petitioner has maintained that the November 5 statement by the Chief of Army Staff has disturbed the civil society and caused fears about the future of democracy in Pakistan.

The Colonel, who was subjected to severe torture on November 14 in Rawalpindi by unidentified assailants, has maintained in his November 12 application to the IHC Chief Justice: “Had General Kayani ever been a person subject to the Army Act 1952, he would not have dared to issue a political statement [advising the state institutions not to cross the limits prescribed in the Constitution] which is in clear violation of the oath of the office of a legitimate Army Chief”. A division bench of the IHC has accepted the application and put off the hearing of the case till the third week of November.

The Army Chief had stated on November 5 while talking to a group of Army officers in Rawalpindi: “Weakening of institutions and trying to assume more than one’s due role will set the country back. No individual or institution has the monopoly to decide what is right or wrong in defining the ultimate national interest”.

While the judicial circles in Islamabad believe that General Kayani’s statement carried veiled challenges to the superior judiciary, those in the military establishment insist that it was purely a non-political statement in which General Kayani had not named any of the institutions or individuals. But the fact remains that Kayani had spoken the day (on November 5) Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry addressed the participants of the National Management Course in Lahore and redefined the term national security by describing the Supreme Court as the absolute authority with regard to the national interests of the state and adding that weapons alone could no longer assure national security.

It is largely assumed that General Kayani’s statement, which was officially provided to the media by the ISPR, was directed towards the superior judiciary whose verdict in the Asghar Khan case has not gone down well with the khakis. However, a senior khaki official said General Kayani’s statement actually reflected the concerns of an important state institution which is being undermined not only by a “hyper active judiciary” but also by an “increasingly reckless media”. Asked if Kayani’s statement could be taken as a warning for the apex court, the official said: “The statement should be taken in good faith as a friendly piece of advice by all the state institutions in the best interest of the country”.

The khaki official refuted that the Army Chief’s statement has anything to do with President Asif Zardari’s November 4 observation that the parliament is still under assault from some quarters. “General Kayani’s role in protecting and strengthening democracy in Pakistan is a general knowledge thing. He has made conscious efforts ever since becoming the COAS on November 28, 2007 to keep the institution of the army away from politics. He has acted as a true professional and rebuffed all sorts of persuasions when the fragile democracy was under a grave threat in 2009 [at the time of the long march]”, the khaki official added.

The military official said the people of Pakistan hold their military leadership in very high esteem, and appreciate General Kayani’s conduct and his role in strengthening democracy and ensuring the independence of judiciary. He reminded that on March 9, 2007, when General Musharraf’s aides had asked Justice Chaudhry to step down, Kayani was the only one to have differed. He had also refused to submit an affidavit with the Supreme Judicial Commission against the CJ, unlike his other colleagues. “And last but not the least, it was General Kayani who had persuaded President Asif Ali Zardari in the wee hours of March 16, 2009 [during the long march] to restore all the deposed judges, including the Chief Justice.

On the other hand, however, the judicial circles in Islamabad say the credit for the restoration of superior judiciary goes to an unprecedented lawyers’ movement. Even otherwise, they say, Musharraf’s action was an illegal and unconstitutional act which was undone by the government in the wake of a countrywide protest movement. The judicial circles then cited Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry’s November 3, 2012 address to the Sheikhupura Bar Association where he had stated: “There is no denying the fact that the respect enjoyed by the judiciary today is well deserved and well earned by the combined struggle of the lawyers, members of civil society, activists of political parties as well as the print and electronic media.”

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Is this the reason for Kayani speaking his mind? An application against his second tenure as COAS!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/world/asia/a-pakistani-lawyer-takes-on-the-army-and-pays-in-bruises.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

**RAWALPINDI, Pakistan — When Inam Ur Raheem, a retired military lawyer, started a legal challenge this week seeking to end the tenure of Pakistan’s supreme military commander, he was preparing the latest shot in a barrage of legal challenges to the country’s powerful military establishment in recent months.

But just one day after his filing in the Islamabad High Court, the battle came directly to him.

On Wednesday night, as he returned from a family funeral to his home in the garrison city of Rawalpindi, three vehicles surrounded the taxi in which he was traveling and pushed it off the road, he said.

Six unidentified men leapt out and attacked Mr. Raheem, raining blows on his head and upper torso. “I resisted, so they attacked me with punches and sticks,” he said during an interview at a nearby hospital, where he was treated for cuts to the nose and head. “They said they were teaching me a lesson for what I was doing.”
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**What Mr. Raheem, a 57-year-old retired colonel, had been doing was challenging the validity of a three-year extension of service for Gen.Ashfaq Parvez Kayani in 2010. General Kayani, the army chief, turned 60 this year, which Mr. Raheem argues is the age limit for his post, thus rendering the remainder of his term extension invalid.
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**Mr. Raheem believes the beating, which occurred just 200 yards from the military’s general headquarters, was a clear attempt to force him to back off. “No one except the army chief and his military intelligence chief can be behind this attack,” he said.
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The army spokesman was not available for comment, but another military official, speaking on condition of anonymity in order to discuss the sensitive issue, described Mr. Raheem’s account as “baseless.” “No security official was involved in beating up of Inam ur Raheem,” he said.

**The investigation into the assault is now in police hands. But there’s little doubt that Mr. Raheem had entered perilous waters — particularly at a time when the military leadership faces an array of legal actions that challenge several pillars of the army’s longstanding grip on power in Pakistan.

Nine serving or retired generals are currently in the dock in either military or civilian courts, or under investigation by the government’s anti-corruption body, the National Accountability Bureau. Last month, at the conclusion of an investigation into election rigging dating to 1990, the Supreme Court ordered the government to start criminal proceedings against Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg, a former army chief, and Lt. Gen. Asad Durrani, a former head of the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate.

Another former ISI chief, Lt. Gen. Javed Ashraf Qazi, who served as the railways minister under the military ruler Pervez Musharraf, faces investigation for his part in a contentious deal in which land ceded to the railways was converted into a high-class country club in the eastern city of Lahore.
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**Meanwhile, the supreme court has applied stringent pressure on the ISI and its sister agency, Military Intelligence, to answer for their activities in the western province of Baluchistan. Human rights groups say that nationalist rebels there are regularly detained by intelligence operatives, tortured and sometimes summarily executed.
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The Pakistani news media, which have long handled the military with kid gloves, have seized on the recent cases with a newfound aggressiveness, adding to the public perception that the military has been put on the defensive like never before. Yet for all the public humiliations, few believe the military’s actual grip on power, or the influence it can wield against President Asif Ali Zardari’s civilian government, has waned much.

And the generals, while accepting some of the criticism, have also shot back, appearing to signal that enough is enough.In the most notable case, General Kayani issued a rare public statement this month in which he made a veiled but hard-hitting criticism of the judiciary and the media. The statement has been the subject of frenzied speculation in newspaper editorial pages ever since.

Senior generals insist that, in a country besieged by fractious politics and myriad violent conflicts, the unified and disciplined army is the glue that holds it all together. They are angered that their blood sacrifice against the Taliban in the northwest, and against nationalists in Baluchistan — a conflict they insist is being primed by Pakistan’s archenemy, India — has been overshadowed by human rights concerns.

Some analysts worry that the sudden surge of judicial and media pressure against the military, which was already bristling after the humiliation of the American commando raid that killed Osama bin Laden last year, could be moving dangerously fast. General Beg, the former army chief, has gone so far as to warn that the court’s activism risks triggering a fresh coup.

Few believe that is likely, at least in the short term. But the bubbling judicial confrontation has certainly injected an unpredictable element into the country’s power dynamics as it moves toward elections, to take place within the next seven months.

Leading the charge from the judiciary’s side is the independent-minded chief justice, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, whose spirited court proceedings are supported by the rowdy and loose coalition of Pakistani lawyers whose street protests in 2007 ultimately helped push President General Pervez Musharraf from power. Now they have the army in their sights. On Wednesday, lawyers of the Rawalpindi District Bar passed a resolution against what they termed the army chief’s interference in politics.

“The army, as an institution, has not only failed to hold its corrupt officers accountable but is supporting them,” stated the resolution, according to local media reports.

Among their number is Mr. Raheem, the retired military lawyer, and a religious-minded man with a history of challenging the military. In 2007, Mr. Raheem sought the release of detainees being held in intelligence custody. This year, he defended a brigadier who was later court-martialed for spreading Islamist propaganda inside the military.

He believes that he was attacked on Wednesday by operatives from military intelligence because, six months ago, the head of that organization, Maj. Gen. Naushad Kayani, personally warned him to abandon his legal activism. “Give up all these cases. Any thing can happen to you,” Mr. Raheem recounted the general as telling him.

**Now his petition against General Kayani is expected to be heard by the Islamabad High Court next week. Mr. Raheem says he intends to press ahead — after being released from the hospital, he went immediately to a police station to file a complaint that named the army chief and military intelligence chief, whom he accused in writing of mounting an assassination attempt against him.
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By Thursday afternoon, the police had not taken the case up. But Mr. Raheem said he was undeterred. “There is no question of giving up,” he said.

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They need a NRO for their acts since 1952 .

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No NRO for anyone, neither politicians nor army, everyone must be punished for the crimes they commit against the nation.

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Most of you live abroad . We are now nation with very bad past .
Corruption and Looting is a family profession .
NRO for all is the only way for a new start
Otherwise no way .
Just feel this level
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He prayed the court to direct the Adjutant General of Pakistan Army (GHQ) Rawalpindi to hand over Major Zubair to the police as an FIR was registered against him in the financial matters amounting to Rs 24 million.

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When we can’t have justice served we can’t do anything right.

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I am still hopeful
Truth is coming out
We can take a new start .
It is the best time to take a new start .

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Who has capability to do this ?

More from the city where I live

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Interesting, bout between elephant and an ant.

Col Inam

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Elelephant
They will eat all grass , Leaving nothing .
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If IHC rules againt the extension of the army chief, it will actually be a decision against the premier and the president. But I think the court should not rule against the appointment because the institution of the army is not like any other instution of the country. We are at war and though general's performance has not been satisfactory, we should avoid changing horse in the middle of a race.

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^ they need to see the rules of the state as well. Kayani is not indispensable, military is the only institute in the country which does not depend upon individuals. There would be many more who could easily take that position and maybe run the organization in a better way.

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^ I see Amal's point too. But both sides should just stay patient for a while. If there is some conspiracy (oh how pakistani people love this word) to create misunderstandings or problems between army and judiciary, a bit of restraint from both sides will reveal the picture eventually because time is money here and the conspirators would love to see some action and soon.

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Pakistani people face these conspiracies on daily bases . They are stealing every thing from people of Pakistan . They can do everything for money .From licking feet of US to kill all local rivals .
Try to understand it .
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A new report
Rs8.8m vaccine purchased for Rangers without following rules, PAC ..&
MoDP two units refuse audit of accountsThere was much more but not available in media yet

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^ they are untouchables.

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iss hammam mein sab hi nangay hein.
Pakistani judges muzzling critics in media: HRW - PakTribune

NEW YORK: Pakistani judges should cease using their contempt of court powers to prevent the media from airing programmes critical of the judiciary, the Human Rights Watch said on Tuesday.
Brad Adams, Asia director at the Human Rights Watch, said, “Since Pakistan’s independent judiciary was restored to office in 2009, Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Chaudhry and provincial high courts have repeatedly sought to prevent media criticism of the judiciary through threats of contempt of court proceedings, which can bring prison terms.”
He also said since October 2012, the high courts in Islamabad and Lahore have issued orders to stop the broadcast of television programs critical of the judiciary.
“Judges sworn to uphold the rule of law should not be using their broad contempt powers to muzzle criticism by the media,” said Adams. “Judges have no special immunity from criticism. Unless they want to be seen as instruments of coercion and censorship, they should immediately revoke these curbs on free expression.”
Recently, the courts have openly issued a spate of orders that seek to limit the media’s free expression rights, the HRW said. On October 9, Judge Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui of the Islamabad High Court issued a restraining order to the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (PEMRA) to stop airing criticism of the judiciary on television.
The court sought to justify its order by asserting that the media ban was “to ensure that no programme containing uncommendable, malicious, and wicked material is telecast by any of the channels in which person of the honourable chief justice of Pakistan and other honourable judges of the superior court are criticised, ridiculed, and defamed.”
Journalists have told the HRW that major television stations and newspapers were informally advised by judicial authorities that they would be summoned to face contempt of court charges for criticising or commenting unfavourably on judicial decisions or specific judges. “No branch of government, including the courts, should be immune from public opinion in a democratic society,” Adams said.
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Enjoy more
Kickbacks in arms inspection: army sacks four officers

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^ thats good, how many civilians have been kicked out and investigated against during the past five years?

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Ohh how simple you are
This is not their own
This is the result of courage of the bloody civilians
Public accounts Committee took up the matter
So these lower ranks were kicked out .