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Pakistan’s military is actually gaining respect in the Arab world ever since the Nuke fireworks. The Arabs are no fools, and at the very least recognize Pakistan as an important player in the Muslim world.
Now, if you simply talk to village gits in the Arab world, then no wonder you’re out of touch…
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Wah jee wah, kya baat hain! All we had to do was nuclear tests, and the Arabs would respect us. Without nuclear tests, we would we looked down upon.
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Pakistan did it RIGHT. They’ve tied their talks to concrete Israeli actions…and there is no doubt that the recent actions of the Sharon government are bold enough to warrent recognition.
Too many Pakistani’s here and on the net are hung up about what the sterotypical “Arab” is thinking…well, we have our own views on the matter, and really…at the end of the day so long as a peaceful deal can be made with respect to Al-Aqsa, and the Palestinians are afforded some sort of dignity…then eveyrthing else is Academic.
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LOL, sure…let’s just deny the symbolism and the milestone the tests set. Not impressive scientifically, mind you…but then when the hell did geopolitics revolve around science?
Arabs in general are ignorant about Pakistanis (and vice versa). The only Arabs I know who look down on all and sundry are the rich gulf arabs..but then, the feeling is mutual..
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Al-Aqsa? What’s the problem there? Are the Israelis destroying Al-Aqsa?
Palestinians? Who cares about those animals! Since when did Arafat say anything in support of Pakistan? And if we care so much about those poor whiny Palestinians because they are Muslim, then what about the Muslims in China?
Pakistan has no reason to ignore Israel. Israel is reality. Israel is the future. Get over it.
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…yeah, I’m sure that’s how it works.
“Oh geez, golly shucks…honest Yitzak…we won’t nuke you!”.
Israel’s fear was that of Pakistan giving it’s nukes away…and they pretty much did that through AQ Khan.
There will be little benifit for Pakistan in recognizing Israel. Israel has technology to offer, I doubt it will give any to Pakistan. Economic wise, Israel is to small to make an impact.
Pakistan simply chose the right time to do what almost all Arab states (including Saudi) have already done…and unlike the idiot rulers there, they actually did it at a meaningful time.
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LOL, sure thing, man. Whatever you say.
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That’s the plan for many Jews…
LOL, can you blame them? I mean, our leadership provokes three wars with India, as the whole bloody world knows, and you expect them to support Pakistan?!?! Our leadership has been bloody shameful, and when in God’s name did Pakistan do ANYTHING for Arabs or any other Muslims besides belt out hot air?
Palestinians do indeed sympathize with Kashmir, but not as a disputed Pakistani territory which is understood to be the Pakistani position (even though it’s technically not).
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Pray tell, what can they offer then?
Economically, good relations with India is key. Israel is insignificant even if compared to the grants that Saudi gives out.
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Really? Explain to me the plan. And it better not be some protocols of zion or other kind of conspiracy bullcrap.
Yes I expect them to support us. If we support the terrorist Palestinians, then they should support the war-provoking Pakistanis. I am very proud of the fact that Pakistan has done NOTHING for the pig headed Arabs.
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That’s what you get when you have secular-minded morons in charge.
In any case, India was at the receiving end of a lot of lip from gulf Arab states, Turkey, and even Iran…
Who supported whom back in those days strictly dealt with if a state was an American or soviet puppet.
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All players in that game were secular. India, Bhutto, Egypt and Iraq.
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Kid, you need to go to school a bit more. And turn off that CNN.
The Orthodox Jews think that until they rebuild their temple (which will require the destruction of Al-Aqsa), their Messiah won’t come.
Needless to say, Israel had tried to Annex Jerusalem. World leaders have proposed making it an international city, like the Vatican. Israel flatly refused, in no small part thanks to red-neck Americans who also have Apocalyptic prophecies to realize.
Let’s hope they are more open to reason now…
How does Pakistan support the Palestinians? Do they give arms? Have they ever initiated any talks? Agitated at the UN? How?
We can’t fault others for not supporting us in our own crimes.
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My point exactly.
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Sorry, I’d rather not go to a madrassah and listen to al-Jazeera.
Ortho Jews are a minority. Destruction of al-Aqsa will never happen and the blessed government of Israel will see to that.
By bitching about Israel’s occupation. It’s good a thing that Israel keeps those Pali animals in line.
In the world of politics, we sure as hell can.
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LOL, it would be a definite imporvment, sad to say…
Current one, perhaps. One lead by hawks…(sheesh…how screwed up is a nation when Ariel Sharon is NOT considered a hawkl)…who knows.
When Pakistan bitches, no body listens. So…unh…in the end it has done squat-all for Palestinians. In fact, General Zia helped to supress a Palestinian rebellion in Jordan…so if anything, Pakistan had been anti-Palestinian in practice.
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Yes, not going to a madrassah or listening to al Jazeerah would be an improvement for you. Go to elementary school, and read a newspaper kid, it will help you.
and that’s a good thing.
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So we would have gained support from them had Maulana Deisel been incharge or is he a secular minded moron too lol?
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A lot of Pakistanis are bitter about the Arab leadership's position on Kashmir, but the strangest part is a lot of Pakistanis are not even sure what is the official Pakistani position on Kashmir. Not just that, can someone please explain to the Arabs and the Pakistanis what are the Pakistani "causes" for which we need support.
Recognizing Israel and justifying it based on lack off Arab support of Kashmir would be the lamest argument ever presented. So can the moderately enlighted Arab experts here please enlighten the Pakistanis that what kind of support the Arab world should give to Pakistan?
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And there are no good arguments for not recognizing Israel either.
Just their oil. Nothing else. And if they don’t give it to us, nuke those *******s.