Kashmiris hoisted black flags to mark India's independence

India cannot hold Kashmir at gun point forever. Sooner or later Kashmir will be freed…

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Indian Kashmir ‘day of mourning’

Indian Kashmir ‘day of mourning’

People in Indian-administered Kashmir have hoisted black flags in many parts of the summer capital Srinagar to mark India’s independence day day.

The Kashmir Valley remains paralysed by a shutdown called by separatist groups.

Police in Srinagar say the curfew has been lifted in several districts, but local people say this not true.

The unrest began two months ago in the region when a small piece of land was awarded to a trust running a Hindu shrine - provoking Muslim anger.

The government then rescinded its decision, triggering furious counter-protests from Hindus in the Jammu region.

More than 21 people have died this week in the Muslim-majority Kashmir valley during police firing on protesters.

Separatist groups have declared a “black day” on Indian independence day.

Hindu protesters in Jammu
Hindu protesters have also taken to the streets in recent days

But the BBC’s Altaf Hussain in Srinagar says that there have been no reports of disruption in functions organised by the government to celebrate the occasion.

The main ceremony was held at the Bakhshi Stadium in Srinagar where the state Governor, NN Vohra, took the salute at a march-past by the police and paramilitary soldiers.

Our correspondent says that while students of the police school in Srinagar participated in the march, students from other schools - whether government-owned or private - were conspicuous by their absence.

Ordinary people also stayed away from the ceremony.

In his customary address on the occasion, the governor expressed deep anguish over the present situation in the state of Jammu and Kashmir.

‘Problems resolved’

“Some sad incidents happened at a time when we had a boom in the tourism industry. It is as if the sun had set at noon.”

Mr Vohra appealed to people to rise above regional and religious differences.

He said dialogue was the only way to sort out problems.

“My effort will be bring the leaders of the agitation to the table so that all the problems are resolved,” he said.

The governor also promised to help the families of people killed in police firing during the protests.

He said he would try to create a “conducive atmosphere” for elections to the state’s law-making assembly.

However, unlike before, he did not say the elections would be held on time.

After years of relative calm, the demonstrations in the valley are the biggest since a separatist rebellion against Indian rule broke out nearly 20 years ago, analysts say.

A curfew is still in place in parts of the Jammu region, though it is being relaxed from time to time.

Re: Kashmiris hoisted black flags to mark India's independence

in ur dreams!!!

Soviet Priemier Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev once said "We will bury capitalism" I guess one should not underestimate the will of the masses.

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I’m glad to hear that even the traitorous pro-India politicians refused to participate in the celebrations.

Meanwhile, just hours after the occupation forces raised the Indian flag over Lal Chowk as part of the official celebrations, people managed to tear it down and replace it with the green protest flags…

"Green protest flags along with chand sitara"

Now, they should be given permanent azadi.
This govt is spineless and wont do it. We will see after next elections.

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^^^ what part of get out of our land & leave our people alone you don't understand?

Ah yes...bloodthirsty Indian terrorists threatening to butcher more unarmed protesters.

You Indians don't even bother hiding your sickening communalist agenda...it's as if you're intent on proving to the world that India is a nation populated by the scum of the earth.

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کشمیر: پاکستان عدم مداخلت خوش آئند
نعیمہ احمد مہجور
بی بی سی اردو، لندن

پاکستان نے بالخصوص مسلح تنظیموں کی بھر مار کر کے کشمیر تنازعے میں سب سے بڑا ابہام پیدا کیا۔ کشمیر میں جب بھی شورش اٹھی، تشدد ہوا یا مسلح تحریک کا آغاز ہوا ہر بار بھارت مخالف نعرے لگے اور پاکستان کےحق میں آواز بلند ہوئی حتی کہ سبز ہلالی پرچم لہرا کر عوام نے اپنے جذبات کا خوب مظاہرہ کیا۔
مگر حیرانی کی بات ہے کہ جب بھی ریاستی سطح پر کشمیر کے مستقبل پر رائے عامہ کے جائزے کروائےگئے ہیں تو ہر مرتبہ ساٹھ سے زائد فیصد لوگوں نے مکمل آزادی کے حق میں ووٹ دیا جس کے باعث کشمیر حل کے تعلق سے ہر بار ایک ابہام رہا اور صحیح طور سے معلوم نہیں ہوسکا کہ کشمیری اپنا مستقبل کس طرح سنوارنا چاہتے ہیں۔
مبصرین اس کی ایک وجہ یہ بتاتے ہیں کہ کشمیر میں شیخ عبداللہ کی سربراہی کے بغیر مضبوط سیاسی قیادت کا ہمیشہ فقدان رہا ہے اور جو قیادت اس وقت موجو د ہے وہ مختلف نظریات کی وجہ سے ایک دوسرے سے جدا ہے بلکہ ہر لیڈر نے اپنے محلےگلی اور علاقے میں اپنی اپنی سلطنت قائم کر رکھی ہے۔
سن نوے میں جب مسلح تحریک کا آغاز ہوا تو بندوق برداروں نے سیاسی قیادت کی طرح بے شمار تنظیمیں بنائیں اور سرداروں، جاگیرداروں کی طرز پر اپنی دھاک بٹھا دی۔
حالانکہ اکثر لوگ اس کی ذمہ داری بھارت پاکستان کے خفیہ اداروں پر ڈالتے ہیں جنہوں نے کشمیر میں قیادت کو کبھی متحد نہیں ہونے دیا۔ پاکستان نے بالخصوص مسلح تنظیموں کی بھر مار کر کے کشمیر تنازعے میں سب سے بڑا ابہام پیدا کر دیا۔
موجود شورش میں بے شمار سبز ہلالی پرچم لہرائے جا رہے ہیں ان جلوسوں میں بھی جو مکمل آزادی کے خواہاں لیڈروں کی سربراہی میں نکل رہے ہیں سوال یہ ہے کہ کیا واقعی کشمیری اتنے برسوں بعد بھی الحاق پاکستان کے حق میں ہیں۔
بعض تجزیہ نگار کہتے ہیں کہ یہ نعرے اصل میں بھارت مخالف ہیں اور بیشتر دل کی بھڑاس نکالنے کے لیے سبز پرچم لہراتے ہیں ورنہ پاکستان کے موجودہ ابتر سیاسی حالات دیکھ کر کوئی پاکستان سے کیسےملنے کی خواہش کرے یا اس سے کسی مدد کی توقع کیسے کرے۔
گو کہ پاکستان کی کشمیر کے حالات پر لمبے عرصے تک خاموشی اختیار کرنے پر کئی عوامی حلقوں نے حیرت کا اظہار کیا ہے مگر پہلی بار پاکستان کے غیر مداخلتی طرز عمل سے ایک بات سامنے آئی ہے کہ بھارت کو عالمی سطح پر شدید پریشانی کا سامنا ہے۔
بھارت کشمیر میں شورش پیدا کرنے کی ذمہ داری ہمیشہ پاکستان پر ڈالتا رہا ہے مسلح تحریک سے لے کر عوام کو سڑکوں پر آنے کا محرک پاکستان کو بتایا جاتا رہا ہے مگر اس بار پاکستان کی خاموشی نے بھارت کے ایوانوں میں ہلچل مچادی ہے کیونکہ بھارت کو موجودہ حالات کی ذمہ داری کو پاکستان کی جھولی میں ڈالنے کی ہمت نہیں ہے کیونکہ خود بھارت نواز سیاسی جماعتوں نے ہی شرائن بورڑ کا مسئلہ کھڑا کرکے امن کی تمام کوششیں ختم کردیں اور چھ سال سے جاری ’ہیلنگ ٹچ‘ پالیسی کو زمین بوس کردیا۔
ہوسکتا ہے کہ کشمیر اس وقت پاکستان کی ترجیحات میں شامل نہیں کیونکہ وہ نہ صرف خود سیاسی بحران میں گھرا ہے بلکہ مغربی سرحد پر پر تشدد حالات نے اسکی سالمیت کے لیے شدید چلینج کھڑا کر دیا ہے ایسے حالات میں کشمیر پر توجہ مرکوز نہ کرنا اس کی مجبوری بھی ہوسکتی ہے مگر بعض مبصرین کے خیال میں اگر کشمیری بغیر کسی سہارے کے اپنی پر امن جدوجہد جاری رکھیں گے تو اپنے مطالبات حاصل کرنے سے شاید انہیں کوئی نہیں روک سکتا۔

:blush: picture chal raha hain kya singh is king..

More lies from terrorist. Protestors were armed and fired injuring 7 policemen (FYI majority of injured policemen are muslims)

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You Indians don't even bother hiding your sickening communalist agenda

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What is communal in executing traitors of the nation ?Your beloved masters recently killed Baloch separatists.

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...it's as if you're intent on proving to the world that India is a nation populated by the scum of the earth.
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You Kashmiri terrorist are filthy sewage of the gutter and you don't have to prove to anyone. The world already knows it.

Fillhaal to "get out of **our **land".
Baki sabere detail main samjhaoonga.

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I think India has messed up Kashmir badly. It is really ironic that we are celebrating our independence day and denying the same to the kashmiris who clearly don't want to be with India. Using paramilitary forces to police a civilian population is never going to work. We will only end up alienating them further. Let us act like a mature nation and get out of kashmir because there are going to be no winners in this war.

CRPF troopers are neither Kashmiri nor Muslim nor "policemen." They're Indian paramilitary forces who are routinely unleashed on Kashmiri civilian populations by the Indian government.

In any case, the eyewitness accounts all seem to agree that Javed Mir and the protesters he was leading were attacked first, and his security personnel fired in response whether "accidentally" or in self defense. Even the Indian media is saying that Mir's guards panicked and fired after he was attacked.

Not only did the CRPF kill 2 unarmed protesters in Lasjan that day, but they also went ahead and opened fire on women as they went to help take the injured to the hospital, killing two elderly ladies...allaying any doubts about their terroristic intentions.

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CRPF troopers are neither Kashmiri nor Muslim nor "policemen." They're Indian paramilitary forces who are routinely unleashed on Kashmiri civilian populations by the Indian government.

This is a wrong statement.There are many Kashmiri Muslims in CRPF and are on duty in Kashmir :)

    The entire stage of show will be over in a couple of weeks time.Everything will go back to normalcy,back to square one :)

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The Associated Press: Tens of thousands march in Indian Kashmir protest

Tens of thousands march in Indian Kashmir protest

By AIJAZ HUSSAIN – 1 hour ago

SRINAGAR, India (AP) — Tens of thousands of Muslims marched in India’s portion of Kashmir on Saturday in honor of a prominent separatist leader killed in a recent wave of violence that has rocked the volatile Himalayan region.

The streets were a sea of black protest flags and Islamic green flags as demonstrators filled Srinagar, the region’s main city, and headed south to the hometown of Sheikh Abdul Aziz.

Aziz, the leader of the All Parties Hurriyat Conference, was shot Monday when Indian forces fired into a crowd of protesters.

On Saturday, security forces kept their distance from the demonstrators to avoid provoking another deadly clash.

The protesters chanted “We want freedom” as they marched to Aziz’s hometown of Pampore, about nine miles south of Srinagar.

“This is a march for freedom, a march for honor, and a march against occupation,” said Manzoor Ahmed, who waved a green flag from atop a bus that was surrounded by the crowd of protesters.

In speeches to the crowds gathered at Pampore, separatist leaders demanded that Indian forces leave Kashmir and allow free movement and trade with the Pakistani portion of Kashmir.

More than six weeks of unrest in Indian-administered Kashmir has pitted the region’s Muslim majority against its Hindu minority and left at least 34 people dead, many of them protesters shot during violent clashes with police and soldiers.

Villages have been attacked, police stations torched and, in at least one town, security forces were ordered to shoot on sight any protesters violating the curfew.

The crisis began in June with a dispute over land near a Hindu shrine. The Hindu minority was angered when the state government reversed a decision to give 99 acres of land to a Hindu trust to build facilities for pilgrims near the shrine. Muslims had complained that the gift of land was actually a settlement plan meant to alter the religious balance in the region.

The spiraling unrest has unleashed pent-up tensions between Kashmir’s Muslims and Hindus and threatened to snap the bonds between India and its only Muslim-majority state.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh called Friday for an end to the protests and violence, saying “all issues can be resolved only through dialogue and peaceful means.”

Singh’s call was promptly dismissed by a key Kashmiri separatist leader, Mirwaiz Omer Farooq, who said the protests symbolize the “total rejection of India’s rule in Kashmir.”

There is a long history of separatist movements in Kashmir, which has been divided between India and Pakistan since 1948. Most were peaceful until 1989, when a bloody Islamic insurgency began. The insurgents want to see India’s part of the region merged with Pakistan or given independence.

The rebellion has so far killed an estimated 68,000 people. India accuses Pakistan of aiding the insurgents — a charge Pakistan denies.

India and Pakistan gained independence when the departing British colonizers split the subcontinent in 1947, sparking one of the most violent upheavals of the 20th century and creating a rivalry that has led to three wars, two of them over Kashmir.

Sooner or later a day will come when this "show" will be unstoppable.

1.2 Million People Attend Rally in Kashmir to Mourn Dead Protesters](http://newsblaze.com/story/20080816101645kash.nb/topstory.html)

By Fayaz Wani

Srinagar, Aug 16: More than 1.2 million people raising pro-freedom and pro-Pakistan slogans marched towards the residence of slain separatist leader at Pampore, some 12 kms from summer capital to pay homage to him and other protestors killed in firing by troopers.

The mourners in trucks, cars, buses, jeeps, motor-bikes marched towards the residence of slain separatist leader, Sheikh Abdul Aziz at Pampore.

Sheikh Aziz is among 32 unarmed protestors shot dead by police and para-military personnel in Kashmir since August 11, when people marched towards Muzaffarabad, the capital of the Pakistan controlled Kashmir (PcK).

People from all walks of life and all parts of Kashmir marched towards the residence of slain separatist leader. The flag and green flags were hoisted in all the vehicles marching towards the residence of the slain separatist leader while people were wearing black armbands.

The slogans like “God is great”, “Indian army go back”, “We want freedom,” “Long Live Pakistan” and “This is our nation and we will decide its fate” rented the air.

The marchers were greeted with pro-freedom and anti-India slogans at almost every place in Kashmir. Even the women in large numbers had come on roads and were also greeting the marchers with pro-Pakistan and pro-freedom slogans.

People had set up stalls at several places to provide drinking water and eatables to the marchers.

“It is a historic day and we want to send the signal to the Indian government that Kashmiris won’t take anything less than the right to self determination to determine their fate,” said Nisar Ahmad, one of the marchers.

Many marchers carried photographs of the slain separatist leader while the army helicopters hovered overhead. The police, para-military and army personnel manning their pickets did not made any attempt to prevent the marchers from moving towards the residence of slain separatist leader.

According to estimates more than 1.2 million people participated in the march. In early 1990s, such unprecedented marches were witnessed but this is first time in the past 15 years that a sea of people marched towards a particular place.

Meanwhile, hundreds of Sikhs from different parts of Kashmir also joined the march towards Pampore on Saturday. Raising pro-freedom slogans Sikhs joined their Muslim brethren and marched along with them.

It is pertinent to mention here that at least 32 unarmed protestors including the senior separatist leader, Sheikh Abdul Aziz have been killed in the firing by the police and para-military personnel on the protestors since August 11.

Fayaz Wani reports on life in Srinagar, Kashmir.

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1.2 millions makes a good number... :)