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i Request All muslims please week up and look what are doing India in Kashmri
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These pictures are the result of mujahideen (i.e. terrorists) coming in from Pakistan and carrying out cowardly suicide bombings in public places. Don't blame India for your terrorists.
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Nobel..i just ask you one question. If its really terrorists coming from pakistan to blow things up in kashmire..then why is India so afraid of doing the plebicite in Kashmire as per UN resolutions ? If the pakistani’s are blowing it all up then the kashmiri’es will definetly vote for sticking with India…
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The truth is quite evident my friend. Its nationalism that is making you say what you said.
Kashmire where indian miliatry is killing kashmiri Muslims for more than 5 decades..
the present upright of Mujahadeens started in 1980, reason they couldnt stand any more killings..
and India for last 5 decades have been rejecting Un resolutions.. I guess Musharraf is a B#$R$## if he is acusing Muajhadeens of being terrorists.. these ppl are fighint for their own land, integral part of Pakistan..
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wake up ppl..
dotn let the blood of the mujahadeens and kahsmiri men and women, go in vain...
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May Allah forgive those Mujahadeens, and give them a heigest place.. Ameeen
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So if India doesn’t hold a plebescite, Pakistan should keep sending terrorists to kill and butcher Kashmiris? And what happens to that piece of Kashmir Pakistan gave to China? That doesn’t matter? And what about the non-Muslim Kashmiris the terrorists have driven from their homes - does their voice not matter?
You’r not getting the point are you ?
Its not militants..its freedom fighters. The only reason india isnt holding the plebicite is because it knows the people over there want freedom from India.
Dont give people their freedom and they will resort to violence against their oppressors to get it. The people you call militants are nothing but freedom fighters fighting to free their land
Once again i ask..if india is so sure that the kashmiries will side it why the hell doesnt it hold the plebicite as per UN resolutions ?
Democracy means majority rule. The majority clearly wants seperation from India. Hold the plebicite and find our for yourself, but the indian highcommand knows what the results of the plebicite will be..hence they arnt conducting the plebicite and instead forcing the public to live under their rule. No one likes to live a life of slavery sir. And the kashmiries are no exception to that.
On a slightly different note. I understand why india doesnt want to hold plebicite in Kashmire. If kashmire falls, a dozen other freedom movements are gonna revive or spring up in other states. Your own George Fernandez has stated this fact as the primary reason for india maintaining its hold on Kashmire. The Fall of Kashmire is gonna wreak havoc in india totally and completely, and a weakened india is gonna cause instability in the region, along with mass murdering. I sympathize with mindless loss of life anywhere in the world, and thus sometimes i do think that other solutions to the kashmire problem then seperation from india. I have many muslim friends and relatives hailing from india, and i have many hindu / christian friends from india too. I wouldnt wanna see them or their loved ones getting hurt just as i dont like seeing the people in kashmire getting hurt.
How will this end ? time will tell.
Abdullah Ahmed
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Haha. Pakistanis talking about democracy. Wonderful. A country constantly run by military dictators is hardly in a position to preach about democracy, don't you think?
The rest of your post is more evasive propoganda - does not deserve a response.
sw u more gruesme picturesof injustices in akistan -- wake up pple, muslims are suffering all oer the world...makes u wonder what messageAllah is trying to give us
Ya tasveer-e-sh!Taan Nobel,
your government has been claiming that for years that “militants” come from pakistan and do the damage to 700,000+ terrorist army men. My question: If “militants” are coming from pakistan, why hasn’t india PROVIDED SOLID EVIDENCE AND PROOF OF THEM COMING FROM PAKISTAN TO KASHMIR to pakistan and rest of the world, instead of claims upon claims and baseless assumptions in order to hurt pakistan?
And you wholeheartedly think that a FREEDOM STRUGGLE can go on by PEOPLE COMING INTO KASHMIR FROM PAKISTAN AND OTHER COUNTRIES? You are one brainless hindu who doesn’t know a thing about “freedom struggles!” They must be from WITHIN to be sucessful and kashmir FREEDOM struggle is FROM WITHIN 100% and that is why kashimris have been kicking terrorist indian army for over 14 years, well make that 50+ years.
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Astagfirullah ya gaa’ey ko maney waley…wake up and accept the facts!!!
Is that the cowardly hindu way or something that you guys try to convince someone with lies and distortion, much like your friends in Israel? I thought so.
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Heh..find me a true democracy in the world sir
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Even the US cant claim to be a true democracy.
The topic at hand is not Pakistan by the way so lets not talk about that. The Topic at hand is kashmire.
And no the rest of my post is not evasive propaganda, your words however are just a lame attempt at routing the argument away from yourself.
If you feel intelligent enough to reply to my posts then do so , otherwise dont bother.
Oh and rangeela guppy, Pakistan does train the 'freedom fighters' im sure. Just as india trains their infiltrators and RA agents to come and wreak havoc in Pakistan
No country can truly claim to be an angel in this world, for being one is just a recipe for self annihilation.
You just gave him reason to reply.
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Now, he has to reply even with something dumb to prove he is “feeling intelligent.”
Rangeela, most people on the planet are actually smart. A few things however keep most people from the truth. One of them is nationalism, another blind following, and the third is believing everything the media says (which can come under blind following too).
I have grown over the phase where i used to think that Pakistan or Muslims can do no wrong. The fact is that they can..and they have done wrong in the past and will continue to do so in the future.
You may think im attacking islam here, but thats not the truth. A GOOD muslim wouldnt do wrong, or would try his/her best not to do wrong and repent when he accidently or unknowingly does. However it seems Good muslims are an increasily rare breed to find on this planet.
Kashmire as i said is a very perplexing matter. If it is seperated then there will be mass bloodshed and murder in a big part of asia, if it stay with india then the indian oppression and bloodshed will continue on its people. Im sure there is a GOOD way to solve this problem...how ? i dont know.
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your government has been claiming that for years that "militants" come from pakistan and do the damage to 700,000+ terrorist army men. My question: If "militants" are coming from pakistan, why hasn't india PROVIDED SOLID EVIDENCE AND PROOF OF THEM COMING FROM PAKISTAN TO KASHMIR to pakistan and rest of the world, instead of claims upon claims and baseless assumptions in order to hurt pakistan?
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what proof does pakistan want????i being a pakistani ...still would like to support india in this matter...the arrest of maulana masood azharin india is the proof enuff for infiltration and cross border terrorism...and yeah many of u guyz were talkin' about mujahideens being freedom fighters for pakistan...i think i shud remind u that pakistan has received freedom on 14th august 1947!!!and those striving for more land from others country are no one but TERRORISTS!!!!!!get it!
trs...the world's best journalist!
Why doesn’t the brave Muslim army of Pakistan come and take Kashmir? You know why? Because they can’t. They are a bunch of cowards who have lost 3 wars to India. 90,000 of the Pakistani army cowards surrendered to India in 1971 - a modern day world record. The Hindu army of India sliced Pakistan in half in 1971. Your brave Muslim army got on its knees.
Anything else?
Why don’t the terrorist hindu army come and arrest those 20 “terrorists” without asking pakistan for it? Why don’t you ATTACK instead of having cowards sit on our border for months and do nothing? Are you hindus scared?
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Hey, you MOVED your forces on our border first to “teach us a lesson,” come on then?
Few days ago, Vaj_pie was saying he is going to attack pakistan, but then the coward says “we will launch a diplomatic offensive on pakistan…” http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Articleshow.asp?art_id=10077358 ]so much for powerful india.
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Over 60,000+ people have been killed in IOK, tell me how many were from outside of kashmir? NONE. And that is what Indians claims are based upon, something which does not happen.