Kashmir media banned by the great "democracy", propaganda shuroo

I’m just sharing this, have no knowledge of the language so if any forum member can verify all this, would be much appreciated. Thanks.

The disinformation war is underway. Kashmir’s local media has been BANNED](Kashmir Times) (not censored but BANNED!) in the world’s largest democracy, and the Delhi media is being used to spread LIES.

THE TRUTH OF THE PHONE CALL
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Date: July 08th, 2010
This is the real translation of the tapped phone call alleged by NDTV and other television channels in this video: http://www.ndtv.com/news/videos/video_player.php?id=151312
WATCH THE VIDEO FIRST, Did you watch it carefully, Now read the real translation
Person A: People are saying procession has been taken out from Budgam.
Person B: So what, where would they go (implying where can they go in curfew).
Person A: I heard 20,000 people are in the procession.
Person B: What 30,000.
Person A: By Allah I am not lying.
Person B: I am stuck in Magam for the …
[At this point, a part of the audio is missing, which will be clearly evident to any Kashmiri speaking person]
Person B: Enjoy your salary while sitting at home (a figure of speech in spoken Kashmiri, used for “government employees” in Kashmir, because they are taking salaries while sitting at home during curfews, implying protest do not affect them at large)
[Now any one with the knowledge of Kashmir Language can tell that the further conversation is not related to above comment about “salary”]
Person A: It is not easy to bring the procession under control, once it’s out of control.
Person B: When 10-15 more people would be martyred, it will come under control automatically.
Person A: I am watching on the television right now. Listen, listen… (increases volume of television)
Person A: You make call to Badgam and find out if this news is true.
As you ca see, the translation by Indian “Free” Media continuously stresses two thing 1) the transfer of money between two parties for creating violence and 2) 10 - 15 more people should die. When, in fact, that never seems to be the point of this communication. The whole point of the phone call seems actually two people talking about the protest in Budgam.
Anyone with basic knowledge of Kashmiri language can point out the fact that most of the objectionable parts are only “Figure of Speech” in the Kashmir language and not to be taken literally.
What is I do not understand is why use “LIES” ? And then you ask “why do these nut heads throw stones”.

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Update 1: Corrected some spelling/grammatical errors.

Update 2: To prove the lies, here is translations from Times Now, albeit a completely different one from NDTV :http://www.timesnow.tv/Martyr-10-15-during-valley-protests/articleshow/4349185.cms

Update 2: In 10 PM news NDTV said, “they(state govt or security agencies) say that these are separatists on phone”. Possibly implying that it is not necessary that NDTV is of the same view.

http://www.countercurrents.org/lies090710.htm

Re: Kashmir media banned by the great "democracy", propaganda shuroo

yea its on sky news too.Several martyred and scores injured and arrested just for protesting peacefully for their right of self determination and independence.

Re: Kashmir media banned by the great “democracy”, propaganda shuroo

And if this was somewhere like Iran the UN would be up in arms ready for another sanction… :yawn:

Double standards again… :chai:

Re: Kashmir media banned by the great "democracy", propaganda shuroo

what kind of so called 'leaders' are these people talking calmly to 'martyr' 10 15 people? terrorists, that's what they are.

Re: Kashmir media banned by the great "democracy", propaganda shuroo

^^ for satanists, everyone & anyone who raises a voice for justice & freedom is a terrorist.


It is a centuries old indian tactic to hide the truth, manipulate & change the history, kill the oppressors, exploit ignorant people, come out as all clean, peaceful secular & 'democratic.. it's nothing new.

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haha Ambassador.. it must be nice living in a delusional world.. at least it keeps you happy and sleep at night with peace.. yes.. blame those dirty Indians for everything...

Re: Kashmir media banned by the great "democracy", propaganda shuroo

^^ im amazed you admitted that indian are dirty. it'll be nice to admit so many more things which they are apart from being the real terrorists..... but they do all in their power to make pakistanis appear as what indians themselves really are.

Huh, Indian democracy? it’s one of the reasons why some Pakistanis want to run away from democracy.

And Kashmir is not the only troubled region in India, about half of their states are fighting a war of independence and these “democratic” tactics are applied there too :hehe:

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Did my message really sounded like a honest sincere admission? joker!

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"And Kashmir is not the only troubled region in India, about half of their states are fighting a war of independence and these "democratic" tactics are applied there too"

Usman brother.. who do you think is doing a better job today? India or Paksitan? Who is doing a better job of keeping the country together and moving in a positive direction?

Just for the record I'm a well wisher of Pakistan. I hope the situation improves and Pak gets on the right track.

half the population fighting for independence is “keeping the country together”? :confused:

And the 800 million poor (500 million being the poorest of the world) is a proof of a positive direction? :smiley:

It looks as if the only hope the Indians get is when they see the bad situation in Pakistan :hehe:

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Usman.. you havent answered any of my questions..

In Indian books its called progress and this is the tip of the iceberg..

Oh BTW, all HRW reports are another big lie.

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I feel sorry for the poor people of occupied kashmir, i mean they don't even look like indians and yet have to live every day under the rule of these smelly kaaly hindus. It's high time for pakistan to do something about it.

^ That's the problem. What can Pakistan do?
Kashmir belongs to Pakistan, because it is a natural extension of Pak in every sense. The aim, however, is hard to achieve. Pakistan can not do it unless it has robust economy and positive influence in the region and the world.
War is not the solution.

PS: your post is racist.

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I agree with Mr Khoji.

Besides i’m puzzled as to why Kashmiris aren’t given a country of thier own by both states :hmmm:

As a Patriotic Pakistani and a firm Islamic and martial spirited individual i see no problem with an Independant state of Kashmir as a solution.

Ideally yes it would be great if it was part of Pakistan but if Pakistan cannot sort it’s own problems out the kashmiris must be allowed to sort thier own.

Besides my experiences in the region showed me that like Palestine theres no other way out Kashmir has to be recognised as a state with it’s own rights.

I’d rather see a peacefull solution and the separate state idea is the best way to acheive it.

Otherwise the innevitable war will happen and since both parties are Nuke armed states thats a prospect i fear, nothing scares me more than weapons that are to stupendously powerfull and utterly pointless.

Just think the amount both nations have spent for this stuff could have been used to get us both out of poverty.

ya i agree they will be good under filthy terrorists!!! They should moved to paikstan.

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^ Look both of you if theres nothing usefull to contribut to the debate and if you cant curb your emotions and speak with clarity and something of any decent meaning please keep your extreme views out. :aj:

An independent Kashmir will be a good alternative solution for Pakistan. Such a state will have more Pak influence than Indian. Because most Kashmiris consider themselves akin to Pak.

Demilitarization is first step towards independent state of Kashmir.

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^ I strongly agree with you on this.

But laying down ones arms is not easy. Especially when speaking about India and Pakistan who spend more on thier defence of turf than the defence of thier people from disease and poverty.

I am all for having millitary capabilities. But i hate the way both countries have thier arms races for warplanes and missiles that God willing they will never use.

You dont need a capital army to win, but you need a healthy public if you want to succeed... thats one of my beliefs anyway.