Let's get over this denial thing. But we don't have to be on the defensive because we most certainly do not (well hopefully most of us don't) share the ideology of these retards. This was a brazen act of cold-blooded murder. Such twisted individuals/groups need help
This is what is needed. Hopefully many in Pakistan have similar opinion.
But you guys have to admit that Karkarey's killing was suspicious. I don't think that the hotel attacks were done by extremist Hindus but the killing of 3 top police guys investigating Hindu terrorist groups at a random location seems suspicious.
The guy caught by the police and his partner did the killings.
And no such statement came out when a budda anti-islamic president refused to vacate his seat.
Agreed on general concept.
I am assuming that you are coyly talking about ex-Prez Musharraf. Correct?
Slight difference though. It was Prez. Musharraf's first stint. NS has been around for many many times. If Prez. Musharraf tries to come back now, we should all ask him to "remain retired".
These leaders need to quit active politics and spend time playing golf. If they really want to be active then we need them to build schools, universities, and hospitals etc.
P.s. I don't think "Anti-Islam" business is correct though. You should not have added that term unless you want to gather support from religious guppies.
I dislike Nawaz as much as anyone else here. But this is not unpatriotic or stupid - this is a good thing he is doing.
Watch my words - a big climbdown by the government is coming regarding the Mumbai issue. This is similar to Kargil. Nawaz knows this because he was the one who got all the blame for Kargil even though the Army agreed to the withdrawal before Nawaz was sent to Washington.
US, UK and other countries are collecting evidence and helping India put together a case. Whether it is solid proof or not, you bet that if many Pakistanis are involved - they will get very damning material. Remember that US has access to all our data from NADRA to the ability to monitor all our phone calls.
Within a few days expect "leaks" from FBI and Scotland Yard that give out embarassing details. That will build momentum and pressure. It will likely lead to a point where Zardari or even Gen. Kayani is summoned to US and then made to cave in. Same thing happened on the Afghan side when Gen. Kayani went to the US aircraft carrier and agreed to increased drone attacks.
When the climbdown happens, obviously our Army will put all blame on Zardari and Gillani. It is better to prepare the country beforehand rather than deny, deny, deny and then cave in without warning.
Ohhh Nawaz Sharif. He is now nothing without the Establishment who grown him up.He with 2/3 majority ruined army ,supreme court ,presedency,media and assemblies and than run away with an agreement. Who can believe him now.The man who failed to ask for a 'Fateha' only in his ruled provincial assembly fr the 5 who lost their lives in his relly on 27th December 2007. Do you know Why?
JaanBazz you need to multiple your type amongst Pakistanis :) I hope more of my Paki brothers stop playing this nonsense game of denying. I don't believe all of them can be so stupid to actually believe the controversy theories and think there is 0 pakistani involvement.
This is why half knowledge is bad.
Congress in ruling Maharashtra and Center, they are waiting for an oppertunity to pounce on BJP. They got it with the melgoan blast. Nobody in power in center or state would have wanted Karkare to be killed. If it was the police job then you should also know that the City police commissionr is a Muslim.
Thats why not reading the post before replying is more bad :)
I was saying that Minister Jees resignation is because Congress can not allow any political gain to opposition although he only asked for investigation which by no mean is a crime. They are in POWER and they can lose support for this while in NS case, he is in opposition and elections are VERY FAR. People will forget his statement till the time of election.
As far as Kurkerey's mirder is concerned, by every mean BJP (and extremest) wanted to silent him. He had yet to complete the investigation and these type of things never happen as a "Police Department Official Policy". So police commissioner being Muslim is of no importance. There always are extreamists in departments who do the job not on behalf of institution but on behalf of their extreamist leaders.
Looks like the unofficial representative of LeT/JuD has admitted his organization’s role in the mumbai attacks. Thank you for coming clean desert bird.
I am assuming that you are coyly talking about ex-Prez Musharraf. Correct?
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Slight difference though. It was Prez. Musharraf's first stint. NS has been around for many many times. If Prez. Musharraf tries to come back now, we should all ask him to "remain retired".
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Lets see now. Nawaz Sharif, total years in office, 4, two incomplete terms. Musharraf, not even democratically elected, 9 years, multiple terms. Now I dont need to say anything here.
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P.s. I don't think "Anti-Islam" business is correct though. You should not have added that term unless you want to gather support from religious guppies.
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I dont need anyones support, as I have no doubt in my mind that he was an enemy of the religion, and disliked it in his heart.
Can you give details on what drove the LET to do this stupid act? Did ISI force them? Any details you can provide without getting killed would be helpful to clear the confusions.
Well... if 10 terrorists were given 'marine survival' training in mureedke, anything can happen! (according to the investigations and statement of Kasab)
If they were trained in kashmir to navigate through sea route to Mumbai from Karachi, anything can happen!
If Indian Navy can catch Pakistani fishermen every fortnight but not a fishing trawler full of weapons, anything can happen.
You can have a investigate Pakistani in India and make him admit anything and everything. This is Subcontinent police specialization. If 10 gunmen from Pakistan can bring an Indian city to a halt for 3 day... apparently aware of every nook and corner of the city, why cant Indian investigators find 10 Pakistani IDs?
Thats why not reading the post before replying is more bad :)
I was saying that Minister Jees resignation is because Congress can not allow any political gain to opposition although he only asked for investigation which by no mean is a crime. They are in POWER and they can lose support for this while in NS case, he is in opposition and elections are VERY FAR. People will forget his statement till the time of election.
As far as Kurkerey's mirder is concerned, by every mean BJP (and extremest) wanted to silent him. He had yet to complete the investigation and these type of things never happen as a "Police Department Official Policy". So police commissioner being Muslim is of no importance. There always are extreamists in departments who do the job not on behalf of institution but on behalf of their extreamist leaders.
If your statement was aimed at pakistan internel politics then I mistook it.
The statement by Antulay is politically motivated to garner minority vote. A loose statement by him without any evidence will make BJP red. They will attack congress on matter of principle accusing the congress of politicising a tragedy.
The whole conspiracy theory will be seen as an attempt by the ruling coalition to sidetrack the investigation.
About karakare, there is no way Kasab and his friend knew that they were shooting down a police officer. If such conspiracy has to be true then it has to be from the highest level. Hence I gave the example of the police commissionar being Muslim.
Nawaz Shareef seems right. It should not come as surprise to anybody that this guy kasab is from pakistan. There must be a lot more like him. Nawaz is working on polishing his own political career, and the best way to do it, is to differentiate himself from the ruling party. That should not come as a surprise either. Its my opinion though, that he will be worst than Zardari.
Islamabad, Dec 19: Challenging President Asif Ali Zardari's assertion that there was no proof that the arrested Mumbai attacker Ajmal alias Kasab hailed from Pakistan's Punjab province, former premier Nawaz Sharif has said that **Kasab indeed belongs to the country's Punjab province and that **Pak Army must admit its role in terror.
Did he just accuse the Military of Pakistan as Terrorists? These terrorists protect his family, his country and every other scumbag like him from enemies every single day. Sounds like something an Indian would say. I am surprised, he would stoop that low. I am shocked.