Karzai threatens to join the Taliban

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President Hamid Karzai has threatened to step down and join the Taliban if outside pressure for reform continues, Afghan lawmakers say.

It was the second time in recent days that Karzai had threatened to quit and join the Taliban, three MPs stated.

“Karzai said that ‘if I come under foreign pressure, I might join the Taliban,’” Farooq Marenai, who represents the eastern province of Nangarhar, said on Monday.

“He said that rebelling would change to resistance,” Marenai added.

The Afghan president reiterated his threat at a closed-door meeting with selected parliamentarians at a time when diplomatic tension between Karzai and the United States is increasing — just days after kicking up a diplomatic controversy with remarks alleging foreigners were behind the fraud in last year’s disputed presidential election.

Karzai is facing trouble with his US and NATO allies stationed in Afghanistan. He has said he and his government are not sovereign in Afghanistan and exercise little control or influence over tactical military operations.

And indeed the situation is grim. The killing of civilians by the allies goes unacknowledged. US troops are operating a prison system in Afghanistan on their own, with no obvious connection to Afghanistan’s law.

Lawmakers dismissed Karzai’s latest comment as hyperbole.

Nevertheless, it is clear the Afghan president is growing increasingly erratic and unable to exert authority in the country.

Marenai said Karzai appeared nervous and repeatedly demanded to know why parliament had rejected legal reforms that would have strengthened the president’s authority over the country’s electoral institutions last week.

During a visit to Kandahar on Sunday, Karzai again distanced himself from his Western backers by telling tribal elders that government officials should not let foreigners meddle in their work and Afghans need to see their leaders are not puppets.

Karzai threatens to join the Taliban

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:smiley: hmm, now is it just politics or is he serious? IMO he’s just a puppet whose master has abandoned him and now he’s running like a confused duck. Wouldn’t be surprised if the duck is shot.

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^^ Tribals! They can't fix their own house, and thus ever ready to get more whooping!

Such a shame.

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Fix your own house first before commenting on others. :rolleyes:

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The former deputy head of the UN mission to Afghanistam said on live TV that he thinks that Karzai is mentally unstable and may have a drug addiction. As the leader of the world’s biggest narco-state, that wouldn’t surprise me.

Dr. Abdullah Abdullah, the pro-Indian leader of the opposition, has also offered his professional opinion as a doctor that Karzai’s behaviour seems medically abnormal.

US-Afghan relations sink further as Hamid Karzai accused of drug abuse | World news | guardian.co.uk

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Dunno about K-Zai taking drugs.

However he is operating on a level FAR FAR FAR beyond the capacity of his tribal mindset. Obviously that would impact his uttering and mutterings.

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The dog has gone nuts, the master says.

I guess it’s the old trick to declare the protesters as mentally unstable. Who can forget John Gunther Dean

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K-zai is upset that his drug- backdoor would end with the capture and control of Kandhar.

He may be planning to join his brother Noriega in the "big house".

Because he can't live in Pak after his shenanigans against us.
He can't live in India as the NA and Abullah Abdullah won't like it.

So the logical choice is the big house.

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question is : why would taleban take him?

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vacant labor jobs in their wings?

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he already has that, except it is in someone else's wings. (so does zardari & gilani but that's a different matter)

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This has to be among the funniest thing Karazai has said in quite a long time...

He couldnt have been serious of course, but he is obviously frustrated with his relations with the US.

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Is "Tribal" your favorite word? Is that what you call everyone who isnt up to your standard of development?

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What else would you call someone who refuses to adapt to the 21st century? Daaktar Afia? A lunatic? or Einstein. Take your pick.

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karzai what a drama queen!

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**Henry **Kissinger once observed that it was more dangerous being America’s ally than its enemy.

                                                                                    The latest example: the U.S.-installed Afghan  president, Hamid Karzai, who is in serious hot water with his really  angry patrons in Washington.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    The Obama administration is blaming the largely  powerless Karzai, a former CIA "asset," for America's failure to defeat  the Taliban. Washington accused Karzai of rigging last year's elections.  True enough, but the U.S. pre-rigged the Afghan elections by excluding  all parties opposed to western occupation.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Washington, which supports dictators and phoney  elections across the Muslim world, had the chutzpah to blast Karzai for  corruption and rigging votes. This while the Pentagon was engineering a  full military takeover of Pakistan.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    The Obama administration made no secret it wanted  to replace Karzai. You could almost hear Washington crying, "Bad puppet!  Bad puppet!"
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Karzai fired back, accusing the U.S. of  vote-rigging. He has repeatedly demanded the U.S. military stop killing  so many Afghan civilians.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Next, Karzai dropped a bombshell, asserting the  U.S. was occupying Afghanistan to dominate the energy-rich Caspian Basin  region, not because of the non-existent al-Qaida or Taliban. Karzai  said Taliban was "resisting western occupation." The U.S. will soon have  100,000 soldiers in Afghanistan, plus 40,000 dragooned NATO troops.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Karzai even half-jested he might join Taliban.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Washington had apoplexy. A vicious propaganda  campaign was unleashed against Karzai. The New York Times, a mouthpiece  for the Obama administration and ardent backer of the Afghan war, all  but called for the overthrow of Karzai and his replacement by a  compliant general.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    An American self-promoter, Peter Galbraith, who  had been fired from his job with the UN in Kabul, was trotted out to  tell media that Karzai might be both a drug addict and crazy.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Behind this ugly, if also comical, spat lay a  growing divergence between Afghans and Washington. After 31 years of  conflict, nearly three million dead, millions more refugees and  frightful poverty, Afghans yearn for peace.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    For the past two years, Karzai and his warlord  allies have been holding peace talks with the Taliban in Saudi Arabia.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Karzai knows the only way to end the Afghan  conflict is to enfranchise the nation's Pashtun majority and its  fighting arm, the Taliban. Political compromise with the Taliban is the  only - and inevitable - solution.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    But the Obama administration, misadvised by  Washington neocons and other hardliners, is determined to "win" a  military victory in Afghanistan (whatever that means) to save face as a  great power and impose a settlement that leaves it in control of  strategic Afghanistan.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Accordingly, the U.S. thwarted Karzai's peace  talks by getting Pakistan, currently the recipient of $7 billion in U.S.  cash, to arrest senior Taliban leaders sheltering there who had been  part of the ongoing peace negotiations with Kabul.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    It was Karzai's turn to be enraged. So he began  openly defying his American patrons and adopting an independent  position. The puppet was cutting his strings.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Karzai's newfound boldness was due to the fact  that both India and China are eager to replace U.S./British/NATO  domination of Afghanistan. India is pouring money, arms and agents into  Afghanistan and training government forces. China, more discreetly, is  moving in to exploit Afghanistan's recently discovered mineral wealth  that, says Karzai, is worth $1 trillion, according to a U.S. government  geological survey.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Russia, still smarting from its 1980s defeat in  Afghanistan, is watching America's travails there with rich enjoyment  and not a little yearning for revenge. Moscow has its own ambitions in  Afghanistan.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    This column has long suggested Karzai's best  option is to distance himself from American tutelage and demand the  withdrawal of all foreign occupation forces.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Risky business, of course. Remember Kissinger's  warning. Karzai could end up dead. But he could also become a national  hero and best candidate to lead an independent Afghanistan that all  ethnic groups could accept.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    Alas, the U.S. keeps making the same mistake of  seeking obedient clients rather than democratic allies who are genuinely  popular and legitimate.
                                                                                    
                                                                                    © 2010 The Toronto Sun

** US Puppet Cuts His Strings***** : Information Clearing House -* ICH](http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25186.htm)

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How about 3-piece-suited-terrorist?

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Many many stories from Pakistan said ISI did these arrests to thwart Americans by-passing them and talking directly with Taleban. This story says Americans made the Pakistan agency to arrest the Taleban leaders, to thwart karzai.

It is funny how everybody twists the same event to whatever suits them!

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Karzai couldn’t even join his own Government if he wanted to, on his own. :hehe:

He’s just a Consultant doing his 9-5 on behalf of U.S. (Unocal-Karzai). I believe he said this to earn him some soft spots from Afghanistan residents because of the massacre US troops were involved in recently where they have now admitted killing 2 pregnant women and children.

But, everyone knows that Karzai is incapable of making a sovereign decision, and all he does/says is for show because his remarks make no alternates to U.S. policies as far as Afghanistan is concerned.

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This is what he calls everyone who IS up to his standard of development.

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Tribal does not equal backwards. Lest you forget, the Prophet of Islam was also a tribal, as he belonged to the tribe of Quresh.

The term as you use it is extremely nebulous, as is your understanding of the 21st century... What exactly should one adopt as a part of the 21 century, for such a person to fit into your definition of being 'enlightened?"

If I wear 21st century clothes, am I tribal then? What exactly does adapting the 21st century mean?

I think the term you are getting at, however unsuccessfully, is "JAHIL." or Dufur.. There is definitely a lot of Jahaluth in the world, but its certainly not synonymous with tribal societies.

You just use the term "Tribal" because you like how it sounds. But I honestly don't think you truly grasp what the term means or what it implies.