Re: Karbala
I saw some misunderstandings on your part regarding the issue, thus I thought to intervene.
If you are under impression that mourning or lamenting is something agasint Sabar or it is to go against the will of Allah [swt] then this notion is totally baseless since in Quran we read that Prophet Yaqub [as] used to lament, he mourned to the extent that he lost one of his precious body organs i.e. eyesight, his sheer lamentation had almost brought him towards death, still the patience (sabar) is mentioned in Surah Yusuf . If this incident is not suffice then we have various other incidents in history wherein we see that some prominent and revered personalities of Islam exhibit their sheer sorrow and grief over the death/martyrdom of their loved ones. Ibn Katheer writes in his authority work al Bidayah wa al Nihaya, Volume 4, page 673, published by Nafees Academy Karachi:
Ibn Ishaq narrates that on the day when Hadhrat Jafar ibn Abi Talib was martyred in Ghazwa-e-Moutah; Holy Prophet (s) called upon Hadhrat Abdullah bin Jafar and made him sit on his lap and started kissing his forehead and eyes, while tears were flowing from his own Holy eyes. The Sahaba inquired: “O Prophet of Allah! Is it so that some grieving news has come about Jafar that has made your tears flow?” The Holy Prophet (s) replied: “Yes, Today Jafar has been martyred there, but the troubles and the plight that he went through before being martyred is very grieving.”
Similarly, the cut throat tragedies befallen over the pre faimly of Prophet [s] in karbala were so grave that the devoted ones lament and mourn for the same!
The hierarchy is not one way rather its a two way hierarchy. According to the words of Prophet [s], **Imam Hussain [as] is from Him [s] and He [s] is from Imam Hussain [as]. **So one has to remember the second aspect of the love that has been made incumbent on us for Ahlulbayt [as]. But in any case, I dont know how can people object on others for lamenting and mourning the tragedies of the martyrs of Karbala while the people who are advancing objections do not even shed a tear for the same tragedy while we have Prophetic traditions wherein He [s] himself wept when he heard the prediction of the murder of Imam Hussain [as], I mean this is not justice, if you are not doing anything that doesnt mean you should start raising fingers to the bereaved ones who are commemorating in their own way! (This is general comment from my side not for a particular individual).
happy to see you after a long long time…friend…
i will give hadees of Prphet(pbuh) about strict opposition of matam..and similarly…in reply…you will copy paste hadees ..about mourning of aisha(ra) on prophet(pbuh) death…
come on yaar…i dont want to keep on revolving in the same circle…
the thing which is forbidden will remain so…
weeping is alowed…bain…shouts..tearing..matam…are forbidden…
when the women of Jaffar(ra) house …started shouting…2 times..Prophet(pbuh0 said to them …keep quiet..when they not listened to Prophet(pbuh)…prophet(pbuh) shouted with anger…fill thier mouths with mud !!!
