Karachi Research Project - Info Required

It’s a project to outsource the programming jobs to Karachi. Will be hiring atleast two DOT NET programmers for basically a Graveyard Shift in Karachi, that is, in accordance to the timing of the East Coast, USA.

Basically, what we are interested in finding out is:

  • **The Salary Range for such a job (ofcourse, Graveyard shift salery will be relatively higher than usual).

**

  • **The cost of getting Static IP for the office.

**

  • The rental information for let’s say an office of just one room (normal size). And since, we are looking to get Static IP, is Static IP available anywhere or only in specific areas, and if the later, then the rental info accordingly.

Will add more if needed. For now, Karachi Guppies :help:

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

http://www.cyber.net.pk/corporate/10.jsp

also look for other service providers.

dont know about rent market, cause not from khi.

about salary, its employer market in Pakistan so you decide what you can afford to offer decent pay package.
it can start as little from 10000 PKR p/m to 30000 p/m

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

hmmm

rent really depends. kon se area mein? aur siraf aik kamra? maybe then you can hire two different people who can work from their houses? why dont u do that? aik kamra 1500 per month pe bhee mil sakta hae aur 3-4,000 mein bhee. saath attached bath ya kitchen ho toh aur mehnga ho ga.

what exactly do u mean when u say u wana get static ip? (sorry i dont have much knowledge abt this but do explain?) i mean you can get go4b worldcall broadband (24 hr net) www.go4b.net but thats only avlbl in the expensive areas
or you can get one of the dialup modem internet conexions which r avlbl all over karachi. they r 10 rs per hour for the good ones like fascom.

salaries…depends on the education and experience of the progger…but you can get a programmer for under 10,000 rupees per month easily for the graveyard shift. maybe a recent graduate from a local college who has 1 yr experience.

u can send an email on this very popular newsgp n ask for ppl:

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

static ips cost about 900 per ip per year. that is the rate of the best dsl provider in isl, but i'm sure it would be same in karachi.

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

so can u register a dotcom domain with the static ip address that you get or does it have to be dotcomdotpk?

the ip address problem can easily be avoided by having someone maintain the website in the U.S. I am hosting a few websites (for paki companies) on my home server with my static ip that I have with my DSL provider. the companies whose webistes I am hosting actually preffered not to have dotcomdotpk type domain.

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

Oh great... I see this is really going to help me :)

great info so far...

Irem: Static Ip means High Speed Broad Band (cable or DSL) internet with one static ip :D

as for your suggestion about working from home. NO! we have already discussed this in the meeting and being the incharge of this project, I was the first one to suggest it and it was outright denied as the company wants Proper office to be placed and if it is in place, then, occassionally, I will be flying to karachi for a week/two weeks business trip to manage the whole office.

Just to clear few things:

Primarily, we are the pharmaceutical software vendors and the second largest company in the tristate area (NY,NJ,CT) and we are still growing. We even have our clients in Mid west, chicago and south. We also provide services to various Medical Labs but our bread and butter is with pharmacies.

Now, that we have launched our windows based software and along with that our Foxpro based clientale is in the process of conversion (from foxpro to SQL database), we are expereincing a growing pain. However, our goals are solid and we are continuously working for a better solution.

This project is the part of this struggle and is a must. I know we will do it. Just need to do some research before starting everything. We do have our own servers, static IP's and websites in USA. We just need to co-ordinate all these things abroad as well :-)

Now that, it is clear I hope to read little more helpful replies from you lot. You guys are great :-p

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

Irem: I am having problem with the site you provide: www.go4b.net

Is it the correct address?

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

ji hanji bilkul sahi addy hae, i just clicked there rite now n it works

khair, im not sure what exact more questions u have. if u have more please write them out clearly :smack: or u can PM me as well

good luck with all this :slight_smile: and btw, i dint know u got a job, thats cool, congratz

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

^
Last night, I tried again. It took literally 15 minutes to show up the main page after several tries of "Page Can not displayed"

Then when that page came up, it refused to surf within the site anymore :(

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

hmmm...
weird
usually toh khul jata hae
maybe it was down at that time
try again later, shud work for sure
phir bhee na ho toh lemi know

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

oh and btw: It's been exactly one year less 4 days since I got the job :-)

I think Kamran had opened a thread in cafe about it.

And that site is still not opening :-(

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

hmm acha i c…i dint know k u got a job…mujhay is thread se pata chala hae…its good news…mubarak ho aap ko

hmmm…SABAR HOSLA as i said :smack: thora ruk jayein, thori deyr baad try karein…khulay gi toh zaroor woh site…i dont know kyun nai khul rai :konfused: waise ye service siraf karachi south (clifton defence) mein hae is lyay it also might not be the one u end up using (coz u prolly dont wana have ur office there, more expensive)…
there are some other ISP’s too…
google pe check karein pakistani isp’s k lyay

aur…lemi give u another link
http://www.ptcl.com.pk/corporate_services.html

p.s. woh site agar do teen dino mein nai khulay toh lemi know, i’ll cut and paste sections of it which might be useful to u in this thread, if u lemi know what info exactly u need from there. like.. their services and rates i guess?

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

ye site bhee dekhein

hamari company ye wali isp use kerti hae Habib Rafiq International (Pvt) Ltd which is also on this site

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

i think aap yai wali sites dekhein...go4b ko chor deyn...coz waise bhee woh clifton defence mein hae siraf abhee...
khair...here's some stuff from go4b site for karachi users. this is the main info which u will be needing from the page i think. the services they offer.

home

    Speed 64 Kbps

Rs/- 1450 Per Month
Recommended for 1 PC
Connection speeds of up to 2 times faster than dial up access
free your telephone line
Permanent connection 24/7
Instant access to email and web
email attachments upto 10MB
Dedicated technical support
Free cable modem **
Bandwidth upto – 64kbps ***

  10:1 Contention ratio

Rs 1,450 per month plus taxes

    Speed 128 Kbps

Rs/- 2100 Per Month
Recommended for 2 PCs
Connection speeds of up to 4 times faster than dial up access
free your telephone line
Permanent connection 24/7
Instant access to email and web
email attachments upto 20MB
Dedicated technical support
Free cable modem **
Bandwidth upto – 128kbps ***

  10:1 Contention ratio

Rs 2,100 per month plus taxes

business solutions
Recommended for 1 - 5 PCs
Connection speeds of up to 4 times faster than dial up access
free your telephone line
Permanent connection 24/7
Instant access to email and web
email attachments upto 30MB
Dedicated technical support
Bandwidth upto – 128kbps ***

  5:1 Contention ratio Cable Modem available on monthly rent or available for outright purchase.

Rs. 5,025 per month plus taxes

    Speed 256 Kbps

Rs/- 10800 Per Month
Recommended for 5 - 10 PCs
Connection speeds of up to 8 times faster than dial up access
free your telephone line
Permanent connection 24/7
Instant access to email and web
email attachments upto 40MB
Dedicated technical support
Free cable modem **
Bandwidth upto – 256kbps ***

  5:1 Contention ratio Cable Modem available on

monthly rent or available for outright purchase
Rs. 10,800 per month plus taxes

    Speed 512 Kbps

Rs/- 19200 Per Month
Recommended for 10 - 15 PCs
Connection speeds of up to 15 times faster than dial up access
free your telephone line
Permanent connection 24/7
Instant access to email and web
email attachments upto 50MB
Dedicated technical support
Free cable modem **
Bandwidth upto – 512kbps ***

  5:1 Contention ratio Cable Modem available on monthly rent or available for outright purchase

Rs. 19,200 per month plus taxes

corporate solutions
CIR Solutions

CIR64

CIR128

CIR256

CIR512

CIR1024
Quarterly Price (Rs.)

53,550

1,04,000

2,08,000

4,13,000

8,25,000
Installation (Rs.)

3,500

4,500

5,500

7,500

15,000
Downstream

64

128

256

512

1024
Internet Access

Unlimited Hours
@Go4b.net E-mail Accounts

10

30

50

100

150
Fixed IPs

1

1

1

1

1
Technical Support

Mon-to-Fri, 9-to-5pm
Cable Modem

Free of Charge
Contention Ratio

1:1

1:1

1:1

1:1

1:1

Note: One Time infrastructure deployment cost for all packages will be determined after site survey.

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

Wow!

thanks irem.. thank you so much. It is going to help me a lot, really.

Do you have any official information of the salary range also?

what about rental information?

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

welcome ji...anytime :p kabhee bhee koi help shelp kee zaroorat ho, feel free to PM

khair

salary range...hmmm....asal mein range hoti hae...like..it really depends k banday ne parhai kahan se kee hae, prev experience kia hae...aur woh demand kitna kar raha hae...lekin below 10,000 mein night shift ke programmers mil janay chahiayay...
even though programmers suna hae 6000 pe bhee kaam kartay haen personally i think paying someone less than 8,000 for it would be unfair
so i think 8-10,000 kee range mein is a good salary for someone who is like a fresh grad with thora boht experience

rental info...ilaqa batatein....? kon se area mein rent karna hae?
aur aik room hona chahiyay? saath attached bath/kitchen?

i guess pehle u'll have to decide the ISP (the link was for DSL but there are many dialups..the best ones are cyber.net and fascom ) lekin i dont know k woh static wali cheez hoti hae un se ya nai

so pehle u'l have to decide the isp and check k woh us area mein conexion de rhay haen ya nai and then decide on the area...
(dialups can be hooked on to from anywhere with a phone line)

and ofcourse rent k ilava, bijli aur telephone line and other utlities ka kharcha ho ga..
u might wana keep a security guard there..
unless its a building in which case it will have its own chokidaar

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

hmmm.. besides all other thing, that may be taken in consideration, dial-up is not an option. We need a 24/7/365 permanent live internet connection and that too high speed meaning Broad band, meaning Cable/DSL internet.... 56K technology is ancient:p and would not work with our growing pace. At times we might be remotely connecting to our office in Karachi. IT gotta be Cable/DSL/T1 type reliable connection.

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

hmm acha
in that case do check the links i mentioned
good luck

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

Awright!

In the course of research, I did have a chance to talk to some of the current residents of Karachi and who happened to be somewhat ‘in the field’…

PTCL is one option to go

but they talked about Fascom Dish system for static IP… and the person who mentioned it was not ready to give me any solution for Business other than Fascom :smack:

anyone has detailed info on that??

Re: Karachi Research Project - Info Required

hmmm us k baray mein toh mujay nai pata..
lets c if anyone else knows..
or ask ur friend jis ne idea dia hae? or contact fascom urself abt it?