The article mentions that Allah, Makka etc are sanskrits words and that several islamic rituals are imitations of hindu rituals of vedic period. Im not conversant in the origins of Kaaba and the rituals of Hajj. Could someone shed light on it?
re: Ka'aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
If you look at from historical point of view, the origin of Hinduism is also from Allah. The founders of Hinduism could very well be Prophets of Allah, just like other Abrahamic religions. The monkey worshiping was added thousands of years later by some fun loving crazy people. The current Hinduism form is no where near the original message. Neither oneness of God nor the thousands of rituals added in all these times.
Re: Ka'aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
If you look at from historical point of view, the origin of Hinduism is also from Allah. The founders of Hinduism could very well be Prophets of Allah, just like other Abrahamic religions. The monkey worshiping was added thousands of years later by some fun loving crazy people. The current Hinduism form is no where near the original message. Neither oneness of God nor the thousands of rituals added in all these times.
Can you share the reference SG because ALLAH SWT will never do this thing and prophets are innocent they are human beings but they have guidance from ALLAH and they never do such things like that its SHAITAAN who tell people to do things
Re: Ka'aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
There are two things that made me believe that the original ppl living in sub-continent could be following Islam, which like in many other nations mentioned in Quran went astray and start practicing polytheism. Here, I used word Islam as the religion of Allah which was the religion of Adam, Noah, Moses, Israelites, Jesus and finally revived by Prophet Muhammed SAW.
Allah has sent message/Prophets to all nations. Only 30 Prophets' names are mentioned in the Quran. So I don't think that India being one of the oldest civilization was left out.
Zakir Naik has mentioned on several occasions (do google or youtube) where oneness of God and Prophet Muhammed (kalki avtar) is mentioned in the old Hindu scriptures.
So there is a great possibility that the origin of Hinduism was Islam (Tawheed) but later it messed up with monkey worshiping. Buddha's teachings are also very Prophetic and he could be a Prophet as well. Allah knows best.
Re: Ka'aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
for all anyone knows brahma could be abraham.
but lets say religions had some divine source, and over time culture and traditions seeped into it, Islam is no different, we have incorporated stuff which is purely cultural and had it been concentrated in one main area, the ability to differentiate culture and religion would be very tough. still is in many cases, isnt it?
Re: Ka'aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
There are two things that made me believe that the original ppl living in sub-continent could be following Islam, which like in many other nations mentioned in Quran went astray and start practicing polytheism. Here, I used word Islam as the religion of Allah which was the religion of Adam, Noah, Moses, Israelites, Jesus and finally revived by Prophet Muhammed SAW.
Allah has sent message/Prophets to all nations. Only 30 Prophets' names are mentioned in the Quran. So I don't think that India being one of the oldest civilization was left out.
Zakir Naik has mentioned on several occasions (do google or youtube) where oneness of God and Prophet Muhammed (kalki avtar) is mentioned in the old Hindu scriptures.
So there is a great possibility that the origin of Hinduism was Islam (Tawheed) but later it messed up with monkey worshiping. Buddha's teachings are also very Prophetic and he could be a Prophet as well. Allah knows best.
Some how I am agreed with SG points. sorry dont have time to go in deails, I will try to put something in my first free time.
Re: Ka’aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
Giest: Very interesting indeed. Atleast at first glance.
I have 2 points to offer:
I agree with Smooth Guy quite a bit. The Vedas collection in Sanskrit clearly mention the birth of Kalki Avatar, who will be the leader of faithful.
check here. http://invitationtotruth.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/chapter-12-of-kalki-purana/
The vedas also mentions more instances that have striking resemblance to the life of Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h
And there are many things about the historic texts of hindu religion today that indicate that, yes it is quite possibly the remnants of a Divine religion. We as muslims will disagree that todays hindu practices have any direct link with Divinty (hinting towards current practices and Idol gods)
So the answer is the NO - Kaaba was not a Hindu temple, however people who we today may think were hindu ancestors, may have followed a Prophets who worshiped facing the Kaaba or was at the Kaaba. (Allah knows best)
Re: Ka'aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
If you look at from historical point of view, the origin of Hinduism is also from Allah. The founders of Hinduism could very well be Prophets of Allah, just like other Abrahamic religions.
Not really. Historically, ancient hinduism and its sister religion of ancient zoroastrianism precede even the conceptualization of Allah by a couple of thousand years at the least. Abrahamic religions are exactly what the name states - religions originating from the one god that Abraham chose to pursue from the several worshipped at that time and place. a more recent development than say the rig vegas or the avestan gathas. in fact, minus the attributes borrowed from zoroastrianism with the advent of christianity, abrahamic religions will be those worshipping the primitive blood-thirsty god of the old testament.
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The monkey worshiping was added thousands of years later by some fun loving crazy people. The current Hinduism form is no where near the original message. Neither oneness of God nor the thousands of rituals added in all these times.
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or it could be that Islam is one of the arab modified versions of ancient hinduism with a bunch of animal sacrifies thrown in by some fun loving crazy people, with Makkah being the site of a sacred temple for the hajr al aswad.
Re: Ka'aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
thx antumul alona! also the original article mistakingly draws a connection between the word Kaaba and other Kaaba sounding word in sanskrit and tamil, when in fact Kaaba is an arabic word meaning "cube".
Re: Ka’aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
As far as I know, most of the rituals that are performed in Hajj are emulation of the acts performed by Ismael (as) and his mother Hajra (as), wife of Ibrahim (as).
As for the question about Hinduism being one of the divine religions inspired by a representative of Allah (swt), I would like to present a tradition that is known as “Tradition of Myrobalan Fruit”. It is a conversation between Imam Jafar as Sadiq (as), who was great grandson of our Prophet, and a Hindu Physician. If read meticulously then it will open many new doors of knowledge for the ones who seek it, Insha Allah.
Re: Ka'aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
There are two things that made me believe that the original ppl living in sub-continent could be following Islam, which like in many other nations mentioned in Quran went astray and start practicing polytheism. Here, I used word Islam as the religion of Allah which was the religion of Adam, Noah, Moses, Israelites, Jesus and finally revived by Prophet Muhammed SAW.
Allah has sent message/Prophets to all nations. Only 30 Prophets' names are mentioned in the Quran. So I don't think that India being one of the oldest civilization was left out.
Zakir Naik has mentioned on several occasions (do google or youtube) where oneness of God and Prophet Muhammed (kalki avtar) is mentioned in the old Hindu scriptures.
So there is a great possibility that the origin of Hinduism was Islam (Tawheed) but later it messed up with monkey worshiping. Buddha's teachings are also very Prophetic and he could be a Prophet as well. Allah knows best.
Dr Zakir Naik is the most controversial speaker on the subject. I can listen to him once and turn the other way.
You must figure it out who are HIS AUDIENCES and why would he make ripples the way he does!
There is no 'MAY BE' in Quran nor does Quran carries any references to Hindu mythology. Was it deliberately left out any mention in Quran ? Allah knows the best !
Re: Ka'aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
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you do have a point, why Hinduism is completely ignored in Quran, when we find references to several ancient nations including Israelite? Can't answer that. May be someone can shed some light on this.
Re: Ka'aba and Hajar Al Aswad, according to Hindus
The answer ^ is quite simple like Allah swt created a manifest easy enough for the followers of the 'BOOKS' to understand
Hence all references in Quran seems to be pointed towards them and to those who were/are lost in their path.
Jewish, Christianity & Muslims are of the same chip of the block and the later is an upgrade from Jews & Christians
Pakistan sub continent Muslims present a very unique back drop of their generation having deep roots to 'idol worshiping' Hindu mythology. My two cents here ,They were neither Jews or Christians before conversion
Hopped onto Islam as a quick fix and never looked back again. So they missed all the experiences and conflicts of 'Grand Migration' and history which is not deeply rich etc,,,,
Hence 'Hinduism' or type of Hinduism has no references in any of the holy books except for Idol worshiping which could be referred to 'Greek mythology' as well
