Justice..

[Hakuna_Matata_1]

We all know that our ALLAH is The Most Beneficent and Merciful and we all hope that HE Will inshaALLAH forgive us on the day of judgement..

Forgive what?? HE will forgive our sins regarding HIM if HE want to, like praying, fastings, pilgrimage/hajj etc..

But HE is also The Most Just, so what about Haqooq-ul-Ibaad ?? like killing, theft, robbery, beating, rape, hurting, abusing, slapping, fraud, divorce, accusation, injustice, lie, back-biting, rumours, rights, charity, rudeness, behaviour, fights, resentment, disobedience, ungratefulness, cursing, etc ??

Are we all gonna getrid of all these easily?? I dont think so, unless we been forgived by the person we did it to..

So, why putting ourselves in hell than to become a good person??

[SID_NY]

Oh I saw a very good video clip of Ghamdi about this. I've a huge regard for him cuz he is not any aalim but he talks a lot of sense using his knowledge about religion. He gave example of various occasions like lailatul qadar and other moments or ibadah where its presumed that all the sins will be forgiven due to that. He said this is wrong perception. ALLAH is ghafoor-o-raheem so yes he'll forgive all the sins BUT only those that are related to him. Like as you said roza , namaz etc.
But none of the sins that involve other human being like you said huqooq-ul-ibad will be forgiven. So for that we have to contact the person we owe it to. And guess what, the other person will then ask for your good deeds in return of the forgiveness and will give his/her bad deeds to you. How scary is this whole phoenomenon, but from justice point of view, totally true

[Southie]

[quote=““Hakuna Matata””]
We all know that our ALLAH is The Most Beneficent and Merciful and we all hope that HE Will inshaALLAH forgive us on the day of judgement..

Forgive what?? HE will forgive our sins regarding HIM if HE want to, like praying, fastings, pilgrimage/hajj etc..

But HE is also The Most Just, so what about Haqooq-ul-Ibaad ?? like killing, theft, robbery, beating, rape, hurting, abusing, slapping, fraud, divorce, accusation, injustice, lie, back-biting, rumours, rights, charity, rudeness, behaviour, fights, resentment, disobedience, ungratefulness, cursing, etc ??

Are we all gonna getrid of all these easily?? I dont think so, unless we been forgived by the person we did it to..

So, why putting ourselves in hell than to become a good person??
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1. If slapping is a category, why not include kicking, punching, hitting, head butting
2. Why rights and charity are included in this list?
3. Is disobedience necessarily a bad thing
4. What is point 4

[Hakuna_Matata_1]

@""Southie""

1. If slapping is a category, why not include kicking, punching, hitting, head butting

because no one can disfigure six-packs with slapping

[Hakuna_Matata_1]

@""SID_NY""

Oh I saw a very good video clip of Ghamdi about this. I’ve a huge regard for him cuz he is not any aalim but he talks a lot of sense using his knowledge about religion. He gave example of various occasions like lailatul qadar and other moments or ibadah where its presumed that all the sins will be forgiven due to that. He said this is wrong perception. ALLAH is ghafoor-o-raheem so yes he’ll forgive all the sins BUT only those that are related to him. Like as you said roza , namaz etc.
But none of the sins that involve other human being like you said huqooq-ul-ibad will be forgiven. So for that we have to contact the person we owe it to. And guess what, the other person will then ask for your good deeds in return of the forgiveness and will give his/her bad deeds to you. How scary is this whole phoenomenon, but from justice point of view, totally true

Yes, and I am so disappointed of Pakistanis.. they dont work without commission or bribe, they sell foods with impurities and low quality products.. etc.. hum kab sudhreingay..

[Greek_Goddess]

[quote=““Hakuna Matata””]
We all know that our ALLAH is The Most Beneficent and Merciful and we all hope that HE Will inshaALLAH forgive us on the day of judgement..

Forgive what?? HE will forgive our sins regarding HIM if HE want to, like praying, fastings, pilgrimage/hajj etc..

But HE is also The Most Just, so what about Haqooq-ul-Ibaad ?? like killing, theft, robbery, beating, rape, hurting, abusing, slapping, fraud, divorce, accusation, injustice, lie, back-biting, rumours, rights, charity, rudeness, behaviour, fights, resentment, disobedience, ungratefulness, cursing, etc ??

Are we all gonna getrid of all these easily?? I dont think so, unless we been forgived by the person we did it to..

So, why putting ourselves in hell than to become a good person??
[/quote]

You will be treated the same way you have treated another being ..

Nothing is forgiven until you have learned the lesson in your life

the Universe/Creator/Allah /God Understands frequency because everything is Consciousness whatever you sow you shall reap the same .

The Universe is Mental for a reason

[Hakuna_Matata_1]

@""SID_NY""

Someday, inshallah, someday. The thing is a lot of people dont realize that sincerity, honesty and namaz, roza etc arent totally different. They all go hand in hand we all are accountable for what we do. hopefully one day most of us will realize

InshaALLAH..

[Hakuna_Matata_1]

[quote=““Greek Goddess””]

You will be treated the same way you have treated another being ..

[/quote]

Yes that’s what I’m trying to say that people should realize soon..

[quote=““Greek Goddess””]
Nothing is forgiven until you have learned the lesson in your life
[/quote]

But sometimes bad people die without any consequences or punishment..

[quote=““Greek Goddess””]
the Universe/Creator/Allah /God Understands frequency because everything is Consciousness whatever you sow you shall reap the same .
[/quote]

Do you believe in ALLAH as the only creator or no??

[quote=““Greek Goddess””]
The Universe is Mental for a reason
[/quote]

The universe is created to see who’s on a good path and who’s on a bad one..

[Greek_Goddess]

[quote=““Hakuna Matata””]

Yes that’s what I’m trying to say that people should realize soon..

But sometimes bad people die without any consequences or punishment..

Do you believe in ALLAH as the only creator or no??

The universe is created to see who’s on a good path and who’s on a bad one..
[/quote]

Its all realization of oneself when the TRUTH hit us on the face

what makes you so sure that people die without any consequences and punishment ? this is wrong assumption we only see things from our own perceptions WHEN we believe that the Creator do justice to everything than why do we doubt ? nothing is forgiven TRUST ME

I believe there is a Supreme Creator whatever name we called it doesn’t matter …

from where we see we are all ONE and belong to the same Source

anything which separates you from another being is not from The Supreme Creator .

Division is man made in the Eyes of the Creator we are One

we were created as a Human Being , MAN KIND … Ashraf Ul Maklook

sad nobody understand the power which resides in each one of us .

[Hakuna_Matata_1]

[quote=““Greek Goddess””]

Its all realization of oneself when the TRUTH hit us on the face

what makes you so sure that people die without any consequences and punishment ? this is wrong assumption we only see things from our own perceptions WHEN we believe that the Creator do justice to everything than why do we doubt ? nothing is forgiven TRUST ME

I believe there is a Supreme Creator whatever name we called it doesn’t matter …

from where we see we are all ONE and belong to the same Source

anything which separates you from another being is not from The Supreme Creator .

Division is man made in the Eyes of the Creator we are One

we were created as a Human Being , MAN KIND … Ashraf Ul Maklook

sad nobody understand the power which resides in each one of us .

[/quote]

:k:

but I do believe some people die without punishment, and that, their punishment will be started after the day of judgement..