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PMLN acting as a broker in this case.
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*Pakistan is a free country, where justice system is now working freely. Video you have posted above is not unique. People when felt they had been made slaves, they got help and freed. Why you wrongly propagate and give wrong impression here? Isn't same thing happens in Punjab and KP too? Mostly these people are illiterate and they have no skill to earn their livelihood. If they work for some landlord or carpet or brick kiln factory, the owner provide them food, shelter and clothing, which is much better than begging in the cities as free men or free women with their children. Landlord or owner is also responsible for their safety. After all that landlord or wadera is also human-being. Why do you think it is a bad option for these people? If some one is not happy with the arrangement then, he or she can seek help as mentioned in the above case. *
Really, Pakistan is a free country where a dacoo can be president, a failed incompetent nincompoop convicted criminal can become a prime minister... I realized that all in 2012 and now you opened my eyes. But still with all this "freedom" there are brain-blinds who think there are no "slaves", no "private jails" of waderas, they will show you problems in other countries to prove that it is okay to have problems in your homes.
Do you thing that people who die in factories in cities like Karachi are better of than the above people? People who work for some one is kind of a slave sometimes also involved in contact for years with the employers which is no less than slavery.
People who work in factories go back to their homes, or are you saying they work in factories during work hours and then chained or caged after work is completed?
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Really, Pakistan is a free country where a dacoo can be president, a failed incompetent nincompoop convicted criminal can become a prime minister... I realized that all in 2012 and now you opened my eyes. But still with all this "freedom" there are brain-blinds who think there are no "slaves", no "private jails" of waderas, they will show you problems in other countries to prove that it is okay to have problems in your homes.
This dacoo, incompetent convicted is completing his five years, none elected leaders had ever completed the tenure in past. There is intelligence lack on your thinking, which you can not visualize. May be what you are saying is true, but then every society in the world has plus points and minus points. Sindh is not unique. And I never said it was o.k.
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People who work in factories go back to their homes, or are you saying they work in factories during work hours and then chained or caged after work is completed?
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So are people working in the fields. Regarding your chained or caged people, it is bs lie. Again prove what you are saying.
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I hope the victim’s family doesn’t give into or get pressurized into accepting some settlement money. I want to see these animals behind bars for the rest of their sorry lives.
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Forget behind bars....they should hang....
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This dacoo, incompetent convicted is completing his five years, none elected leaders had ever completed the tenure in past. There is intelligence lack on your thinking, which you can not visualize. May be what you are saying is true, but then every society in the world has plus points and minus points. Sindh is not unique. And I never said it was o.k.
What has my post to do with dacoo completing or not completing 5 years term? Looks like you wanted to say the bolded sentence for yourself.
So are people working in the fields. Regarding your chained or caged people, it is bs lie. Again prove what you are saying.
Yes, majority of people working in the fields go back to your home, you need to get out of waderas houses and visit their properties that you don't see (or are barred from), even if me or anyone "proves" what I am saying you will go back to say "oh that happens in falaan falaan countries" you are here to argue for the sake of argument, not to learn or discuss.
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What has my post to do with dacoo completing or not completing 5 years term? Looks like you wanted to say the bolded sentence for yourself.
It is very much relavent. Again use your intelligence. None electeced leader after partition had ever completed 5 years. This dacoo of yours is elected and ruling since last five years. Either all Pakis are dacoos who have allowed him without any dhanda in his hand to rule them or what you are saying is utter nonsense lack of intelligence. Just calling names does not become what you are saying.
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Yes, majority of people working in the fields go back to your home, you need to get out of waderas houses and visit their properties that you don't see (or are barred from), even if me or anyone "proves" what I am saying you will go back to say "oh that happens in falaan falaan countries" you are here to argue for the sake of argument, not to learn or discuss.
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You keep on aaian baain sahaain, as I asked you, give me the proof what you are saying otherwise shut it. naukar/bawarchi/ chokidar etc working in your house are also slaves or slaves like. You do not provide them beds in your bedrooms or guest rooms and dine with them on your dining table. or are you?
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It is very much relavent. Again use your intelligence. None electeced leader after partition had ever completed 5 years. This dacoo of yours is elected and ruling since last five years. Either all Pakis are dacoos who have allowed him without any dhanda in his hand to rule them or what you are saying is utter nonsense lack of intelligence. Just calling names does not become what you are saying.
Not really relevant, "ALL Pakistanis" did not elect this dacoo, some did, some wanted to join him in the loot, so use your intelligence next time before claiming "All Pakistanis". and dacoo is YOURS, not mine.
You keep on aaian baain sahaain, as I asked you, give me the proof what you are saying otherwise shut it. naukar/bawarchi/ chokidar etc working in your house are also slaves or slaves like. You do not provide them beds in your bedrooms or guest rooms and dine with them on your dining table. or are you?
It feels like aaien baien shaien but as soon as you get a proof you will start justifying those acts, so seeing your history I am content with this 'aaien baien shaien'.
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Pakistan kiln laborers hemmed in by debts they can’t repay - latimes.com
By Alex Rodriguez, Los Angeles Times
January 9, 2013, 4:34 p.m.
MULTAN, Pakistan — The mounds of clay are so heavy that they have warped Shahbaz’s creaky wooden cart. The 10-year-old boy’s spindly arms struggle with the weight, about 45 pounds. He teeters as he wheels cartload after cartload to his mother, a waifish woman crouched on the ground who is turning the wet clay into bricks at a rate of three per minute.
A few feet away, 12-year-old Shahzad matches his mother brick for brick. Without the help of the two boys, their daily brick yield wouldn’t be high enough to feed a family of seven.
“I hate this,” says the mother, Nazira Bibi, slapping a clod of mud into the brick mold and flipping it over with a thump. "I hate the fact that my kids have to do this work, that they’re not in school. When I see other kids going to school, I wish my kids were those kids.
PHOTOS: Hemmed in by debt
“But we’ve got no choice. If we don’t work, we don’t eat.”
The Pakistani Taliban’s brutal attack on teenage education activist Malala Yousafzai provided the world a window on the insurgent group’s long-running campaign against “un-Islamic” schools in the country’s northwest.
But in much of the rest of the country, one of the most entrenched barriers to education comes from moneyed landowners, brick kiln operators, carpet makers and other businesspeople who rely on a form of indentured servitude known as bonded labor.
Among the victims are millions of children such as Shahbaz and Shahzad, who cannot read or write and are likely to spend the rest of their lives tethered to debt they inherited — and can never repay.
In Punjab province, bonded labor is a way of life at thousands of brick kilns that for generations have ensnared workers in a hopeless cycle of loans and advances. The workers don’t earn enough to survive, so they’re forced to accept loans from the kiln owners. The meager pay keeps them from being able to repay the loans. When they die, the debt is passed on to their children.
From the brick kilns and tanneries of the Punjab heartland to the cotton fields of the southern province of Sindh, millions are doomed to bonded labor. Kashif Bajeer, secretary of Pakistan’s National Coalition Against Bonded Labor, says there are no statistics on bonded laborers in Pakistan, but most estimates put the number at up to 8 million.
Pakistan officially outlawed bonded labor in 1992, but enforcement has been almost nonexistent in the face of the financial and political clout wielded by southern Pakistan’s wealthy landlords and kiln owners, who provide payoffs to keep police and administrative officials at bay.
Bajeer estimates that 70% of bonded laborers in Pakistan are children, few of whom attend school. Pilot projects in eastern Punjab province have put children from 8,000 kiln families into classrooms, but those efforts have yet to be expanded to the rest of the province.
“The government is supposed to provide schooling to these children, but it doesn’t take the issue seriously,” Bajeer says. “Most parents in bonded labor don’t have national ID cards, and so they don’t have the right to vote. And because of that, they are not a big priority for local lawmakers.”
Many bonded laborers live in impoverished regions where few people obtain birth certificates, which are required for a national ID card.
At the kiln where Bibi, 30, and her boys work, the acrid odor of chemicals from a fertilizer plant next door hangs over a dirt field where dozens of families toil amid the ceaseless clapping of brick molds as they hit the ground. Bibi’s husband, Mohammed Sadiq, also 30, readies the day’s supply of trucked-in clay by adding buckets of water and trudging through it to knead it into the right consistency.
Life at a brick kiln is all Bibi and her husband have ever known. Both are children of kiln laborers; Bibi began working at a kiln when she was 10, Sadiq when he was 12. Their debt to kiln owner Akram Arain built up shortly after they got married more than a decade ago. They took out a loan to pay for their wedding, more loans to pay for the births of their five children, and still more to get through the annual monsoons, when kiln work shuts down and no one gets paid. Arain declined a request for an interview.
Their current debt stands at 20,000 rupees — about $200, but to Bibi and Sadiq it might as well be $2 million. The family gets 500 rupees, about $5, for every 1,000 bricks it produces. That’s about $7.50 for a grueling eight hours of work. At midday, the family sits together for a few minutes to eat what usually serves as its lunch: a few fist-sized plastic bags of boiled orange lentils and a small wheel of bread.
Shahzad and Shahbaz gulp down their lunch and get back to work. As he churns out bricks, Shahzad’s thoughts wander. He daydreams about playing cricket, or anything else to get his mind off the kiln.
“Right now, I’m thinking about being far away from here,” Shahzad says, wiping a fleck of mud from his cheek. “Sometimes I dream about studying. I think about these things all the time.”
Shahzad is tall for his age, with a wiry frame and jet-black hair that falls over his forehead. He is his father’s right-hand man, never needing a nudge or a rebuke to keep pace with the rhythm of the brick-making. When the wheel on his younger brother’s wooden cart gets wobbly, Shahzad fixes it in seconds.
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good tip off for the income tax officials or NAB. They need to figure out the source of this blood money that is being offered, 250 million or 300 million is not a small sum that a shareef insaan can earn via rizq-e-halal
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As per Dawn News, Shahrukh Jatoi has presented himself at Pakistan embassy in UAE.
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He has surrendered to Pakistani authorities in Dubai and would be flown to Pakistan by a PIA flight this afternoon.
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Shahzaib Khan's family is reportedly considering an offer of Rs250 million blood money.
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^ I hope thats not true, pure shame if they accept this blood money.
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Some hanky panky is surely taking place in the background. News is that he is declared between 17 and 18 yr old after medical examination. He looks much older than that. Nothing will happen. It will be settled out of court it appears
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Some hanky panky is surely taking place in the background. News is that he is declared between 17 and 18 yr old after medical examination. He looks much older than that. Nothing will happen. It will be settled out of court it appears
Since when did age become a barrier for our law enforcement agencies? Rimsha Masih was 14, yet she was on the verge of being killed for blasphemy (that she did not even commit).
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They trying hardest to save him.
If he was innocent, then why did he run away from the country?
Why did his fat dad say that he left pakistan on 25th dec to Australia? But was later traced in Dubai?
Now they saying he is a minor! Well his dad said he is accepted for a MBA degree in Australia. A 17 year old cannot be doing a Masters degree!
And they saying that his bone age in 17. Who cares what his bone age is? Bone age can lag behind in many hormonal disorders!!
Sorry thats my rant over now lol
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They trying hardest to save him.
If he was innocent, then why did he run away from the country?
Why did his fat dad say that he left pakistan on 25th dec to Australia? But was later traced in Dubai?
Now they saying he is a minor! Well his dad said he is accepted for a MBA degree in Australia. A 17 year old cannot be doing a Masters degree!
And they saying that his bone age in 17. Who cares what his bone age is? Bone age can lag behind in many hormonal disorders!!
Sorry thats my rant over now lol
He must be an extra ordinary kid doing Masters at 17 wow...another WOW from Govt. of Sindh :).
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