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^ am i reading this right? you are standing by this Jatoi guy? if he is so innocent then why has he not presented himself?

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^ if he is innocent he should come forward and have his name cleared.

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:k:
The most surprising thing is civil society in karachi demonstrating…
They wake up from slumber for only this incident; we see no demonstration from very next/previous target killing incident.

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dear guppies...sometime you may wonder how in the hell certain police officers or bureaucrats can be so brutal without any "zameer"......well there you go..your dilemma is solved today..if this poster becomes a police officer, you can imagine what kind of officer he will be!!!

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I kept my mouth shut for most part on this incidence as I wanted to hear the jatoi party first and now that i have heard sikandar jatoi for over 30 min, it is pretty clear he is absolutely lying and his son indeed is the killer

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The sons of Waderas residing in Karachi have over inflated ego's that need to be checked. They should be rounded up and publicly sodomized in presence of their Wadera fathers and slave-cum-guards from village. This should ruin their ego's for ever.

They should be reminded whether they are Talupr, Jatoi, Junejo, Kakar, Jakhrani, Makrani, Bhutto, Lullo, Chutto, etc, they are nobody's outside their pathetic little village where the villagers worship them.

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I dont agree!
Apart from the fact that Shahrukh Jatoi is Aitchisonian, I have to stand by him

but i also really admire this poster for being so honest and upfront…most of the Pakistanis would act the same way when faced with this type of crisis personally…Pakistani society is one of the most hypocritical societies… yea right now we are jumping around and making all sorts of noise but if our own brother has killed someone, majority of us will be trying to save him regardless of his innocence…

and speaking of “fuedals killing poors and trying to save their offspring” blah blah…well, it is not about the feudal class only…those who have a village background will agree that small zamindars kill each other and then support each other purely on bradari basis and bribe through the system…when son of one ghareeb (say doodh wala) will kill son of another ghareeb (mazdoor), both parties will try to save their sons and will lie and cheat as much as they can…that is how we roll as a society…only difference is that when a feudal does it, our blood boils with rage but when a small zamindar does it (in his own capacity), we careless…

so thanks again for being so honest and upfront and for reminding us how filthy we are … with our prejudices deeply rooted into our psychological makeup…

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I think he’s lying, clearly, but why would he agree to go on TV? Talk about digging a hole for yourself. He must have terrible lawyers, but then again, considering that it’s Pakistan, being rich means that you don’t have to worry about legal action.

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Any update about Talpur?
i havnt seen any news regarding him... only jatoi news on TV...

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http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/01/shahzeb-khans-murder-highlights-feudal-grip-on-pakistani-society/

Shahzeb Khan’s Murder Highlights Feudal Grip On Pakistani Society

On December 25, Shahzeb Khan was shot dead in Karachi. Since his death, Shahzeb has become a symbol in Pakistan, with his picture spreading across social media platforms. Ordinary Pakistanis want his death to be the end of Pakistani feudal class, who live above the law in the South Asian country.

The alleged killers, Siraj Talpur and Shahrukh Jatoi, are the member of two powerful feudal families. Pakistan’s political and social systems are still rife with corruption, leaving families like the Talpur and Jatoi outside of the reach of the law for many ordinary Pakistanis.

The argument which apparently led to the killing was one of seemingly everyday banality. One of the guards employed by Mr. Talpur passed a lewd comment about Shahzeb Khan’s sister. Shahzeb’s father, a Deputy Superintendent in the Police, resolved the argument peacefully. Later that day Khan was shot dead in his car.

After the murder of Shahzeb, his family had a difficult time registering the case. Pressure from the families of the alleged murderers tried to keep the case off of the books. The original report filed was a dummy, it was only because the victims father was a police officer that he managed to have a real report of the crime filed.

Since the murder, Shahzeb Khan’s name has begun to ring out across Pakistan. The injustice of his death, amplified by the power of social media, has made the twenty year old a symbol for a population fed up with an unequal justice system.

This case is about much more than the death of Shahzeb Khan. A system which allows powerful families to get away with murder is, for ordinary Pakistanis, the real criminal. Messages from many people rang out on the Facebook page put up by Shahzeb Khan’s friend, Umer Mukhtar. The page has received more than ninety thousand likes in the week since it was created.

Messages of support, calls for justice and invitations to protests organized to ensure justice on the killers abound. The communicative ability of the internet makes it the most important weapon in the fight against injustice for millions of Pakistanis.

The weight of that support has changed the course of this case. Today, the Governor of Sindh, Ishrat-ul-Ibad Khan and the Chief Minister of the Province, Qaim Ali Shah, directed the authorities to find the culprits, and make them answer for their crimes. The move may relieve some of the pressure on the authorities, but it will almost certainly not be enough to completely resolve the case.

One of the suspects, Shahrukh Jatoi, appears to have absconded to Australia. That puts him, at least temporarily, outside of the reach of Pakistan’s justice system. It was revealed earlier today that police investigating the crime had written to the Australian authorities to verify that Jatoi was indeed present in the country. Earlier in the week the same authorities denied that he had managed to escape the country.

Jatoi, according to information from sources close to the family, studies in Malaysia and was in Karachi on Winter break. Two figures in the family’s employ, one a security guard, have been arrested by police but charges have yet to be filed against them.

The particulars of this case do not matter as much as the environment that allowed such a murder to occur. According to the father of the victim, “This is the brutal reign of the feudals. They don’t spare anyone.” Carrying guns publicly has become common across Karachi.

Karachi’s feudal system is a common attribute of the political and social systems across rural Pakistan. Certain families exert influence over vast tracts of land and keep the local populace in check, using violence and debt bondage. Members of the powerful families feel above the law, and in many cases they are.

This is the atmosphere that caused two young men from affluent backgrounds to believe that they could follow, shoot and kill a human being on a Karachi Street. Several similar cases have been prominent in recent years, with each case the public’s awareness of ongoing corruption becomes more widespread, and the hold of the feudals on the populace becomes weaker.

Pakistan’s feudal system, and the psychology that springs from it, forms one of the most detrimental influences on the country’s political system, and social structure. The country is, without a doubt, in the midst of a quiet revolution that hopes to bring about change. Shahzeb Khan is now the poster child of that cause.

It is hoped that he will be the last symbol the movement ever needs. If feudal lords are forced to obey the same laws as the rest of the population, one of the country’s most obvious problems will come to an end, and Pakistanis will be secure in the knowledge that their country has a working legal system.

With one of the suspects seemingly out of the country, and the other still not in the custody of the police, justice for Shahzeb Khan seems far away. If, however, the worst case scenario comes true, and neither of the perpetrators are convicted, Shahzeb Khan’s death will still not have been in vain.

Pakistan’s citizenry, in particular the youth, who make up more than half of the population, have been inspired by the death of this young man. Change always begins with the yearning for justice. As more and more people get behind this movement, that yearnings burns brighter, and it can’t be ignored by the country’s rulers.

In the mean time, there is still a long way to go in getting justice for Shahzeb Khan. The perpetrators will first have to be arrested and given trial for their crime. That process may take months, particularly if extradition from Australia is necessary.

The longer this goes on, and the more people that get involved, the more change it is likely to bring to Pakistan. There is some hope for a population living at the behest of feudal lords.

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Shahzeb Khan murder case: SC orders arrest of accused in 24 hours - geo.tv

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In memory of Shahzeb Khan

Shahrukh Jatoi kay passport ki copy Samaa Tv ko mosool hoi jis se yeh ehem inkishaaf hua hai k woh dubai rawana ho chuka hai - Source: Samaa TV

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What about wadera's private jails? What about wadera's holding entire family hostage for their entire life? What about wadera's punishing generations of a worker? Is that all justice too? Regardless of who is killed, ANY killer must be punished whether it is from police family or wadera family.

You don't agree because you are against justice?

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This is exaggeration. Can you link/prove what you are saying?

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This is not exaggeration. All you have to do is read what Human Rights Watch says or do simple google search.

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Pakistant’s bonded labourers and private prisoners

1.7 million bonded labourers in Pakistan:
One million workers in private jails
Daily Times

There are over 1.7 million people in the bondage in Pakistan and majority of them are landless tillers (haris) in Sindh who are working under the control of provincial feudal lords.

According to International Labour Organisation (ILO) statistics, the wives and children of male labourers are also in captivity of Sindhi feudal lords (waderas). Many non-governmental organisations including the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan have shown concern over the increasing number of such cases and the government’s apathy and failure in getting them liberated. In Sindh, the problem of bonded labour is increasing. In earlier times, landlords used to have their slaves but now even mid-range farmers are enslaving people. Families in desperation, either in search of livelihoods or struck by some crisis for which they need cash become victims of the feudal lords who lend advance to them and in return keep them in bondage to do their work. The workers are supposed to pay off their loans through work – but that rarely happens. During their work they are kept in private detention centres and this cycle keeps on going for generations.

According to HRCP statistics in the year 2005 the Commission reported the release of some 1072 haris from the detention of waders. Some 181 haris got released through administrative measures of the provincial government; about 63 haris managed to get free through the orders of the sessions court when their cases were prosecuted by rights activist organisations and 828 such boded labourers escaped from the prison-like places.

The Green Development Organisation is a NGO working for the abolishment of bonded labour in different areas of Sindh. The President of Green Mr Ghulam Hussain told us that there were some 1.2 to 1.3 million people who were engaged in bonded labour in different areas of Sindh. Of this total some 50,000 people have been freed due to efforts in social sector. “We are working in close liaison with the government departments, police, and judicial activists. We have formed vigilance committees with the cooperation of the government which monitor the state of bonded labour in different areas and devise ways and means for the release of people engaged in bonded labour. In Hyderabad and Mirpurkhas these committees have been formed whereas in other districts these committees are in the offing,” said Mr Hussain. Doctor Kamran Ahmad the chairperson of Mehergarh, an organisation working against bonded labour, said: “We believe that people have the courage and determination to deal with their own problems. If they are supported and their process of seeking justice is facilitated they can eventually come up with innovative and just solutions for their problems,” said Dr Kamran Ahmed. The poverty is the primary cause which compels the parents to let their children to drudge at different workstations. “You would be sorry to know that 15 to 20 percent of the children working at brick factories lose their eye sight due to unhealthy ambience,” he said.

The bonded labour system in the country was also challenged in the Federal Shariat Court as being repugnant to Islamic spirit. The Shariat petition against the system was filed under Section 203-D of the Constitution challenging some sections of the Bonded Labour System (abolition) Laws 1992. The petitioners maintained in the petition that the abolishing of bonded labour laws were ambiguous and needed to be interpreted by the court. They had a contention that it was the vagueness and ambiguity of these laws that bonded labour is rampant every where and the poor families continue to be exploited by the employers particularly in the industries of brick kilns and carpet weaving. The petitioners sought interpretation of laws dealing with Bonded Labour System, besides seeking declaration of the System contrary to the Holy Quran and Sunnah. The court has reserved the judgement on the issue.

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Siraj Talpur arrested.. I hope this Jatoi guy is also caught soon and for once law can prevail in this country..
Shahzeb Khan murder: Police arrest prime suspect Siraj Talpur – The Express Tribune

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**Pakistan is a free country, where justice system is now working freely. Video you have posted above is not unique. People when felt they had been made slaves, they got help and freed. Why you wrongly propagate and give wrong impression here? Isn’t same thing happens in Punjab and KP too? Mostly these people are illiterate and they have no skill to earn their livelihood. If they work for some landlord or carpet or brick kiln factory, the owner provide them food, shelter and clothing, which is much better than begging in the cities as free men or free women with their children. Landlord or owner is also responsible for their safety. After all that landlord or wadera is also human-being. Why do you think it is a bad option for these people? If some one is not happy with the arrangement then, he or she can seek help as mentioned in the above case.

As I said that is an exaggeration as 1.8 millions exist in Pakistan out of 160 millions, which is 0.625% of the population.

Do you thing that people who die in factories in cities like Karachi are better of than the above people? People who work for some one is kind of a slave sometimes also involved in contact for years with the employers which is no less than slavery.**

Even in present day America, slavery is existing in the worst form. Perhaps different kinds of slavery exist in all over the world including in the kingdom of Islam, SA. Before you utter nonsense research and then write. parhta jaa aor sharmata jaa. Reading following fact, your wadera is an angel. keep this in your prejudice mind.

Girls, Human Trafficking, And Modern Slavery In America | ThinkProgress

Our guest blogger is Malika Saada Saar, the executive director of Rights4Girls, a U.S. based human rights organization for young women and girls.

**On the 150th anniversary of when President Lincoln issued the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation, which set the date for the freedom of more than 3 million enslaved Americans, President Obama called for the end of modern day slavery. **The president’s historical speech delivered at the Clinton Global Initiative, called for major policy changes, at home and abroad, to combat the enslavement of millions of women, men and children.

Many of the slaves today are girls. Born in America. Hidden in plain view.

**They are the lost girls, standing around bus stops, hanging out by runaway youth shelters, or advertised online. At the Motel 8 or the Marriott, at McDonalds or the clubs.
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According to the FBI, there are currently an estimated 293,000 American children at risk of being exploited and trafficked for sex. Forty percent of all human trafficking cases opened for investigation between January 2008 and June 2010 were for the sexual trafficking of a child. And while the term trafficking may conjure images of desperate illegal immigrants being forced into prostitution by human smugglers, 83 percent of victims in confirmed sex trafficking cases in this country were American citizens.

The majority of these children being sold for sex are girls between the ages of 12 and 14. They are girls abducted or lured by traffickers and then routinely raped, beaten into submission, and sometimes even branded. When the girls try to run away, their traffickers torture and or gang rape them.

They are girls like Jackie who ran away from an abusive home at 13 only to be found alone and hungry by a trafficker who promised to love her like a father/boyfriend/Prince Charming. He sold her to at least six different men every night. When she begged him for food or rest, he beat her.

**Young girls like Jackie are the new commodities that traffickers and gangs are selling. In many respects, the girl trade has replaced the drug trade. Drug routes have been repurposed to sell girls, along I-95, and up and down the I-5 corridor. The emergence of the Internet also allows the sale of a girl to be executed with ease, discretion, and convenience for the buyer. And unlike selling a drug, the girl is “reusable.”
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**The ugly truth is that it is less risky and more profitable to sell a girl than crack cocaine or meth. The U.S. government spends 300 times more money each year to fight drug trafficking than it does to fight human trafficking. And the criminal penalties for drug trafficking are generally greater than the ones usually levied against those who traffic in girls. Traffickers, and especially the politely termed “Johns,” are rarely arrested and prosecuted. Which explains the growing demand for vey young girls— at the click of a mouse, a “John” can purchase a girl online on legitimate websites like Backpage.com, with minimal fear of punishment.
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Many of these girls who are bought and sold for sex come out of a broken foster care system. “Of the trafficking victims in Alameda County, California, 55 percent were from foster youth group homes. In New York, 85 percent of trafficking victims had prior child welfare involvement. And in Florida, the head of the state’s trafficking task force estimates that 70 percent of victims are foster youth.

T” was born into the foster care system and trafficked at the age of 10, sold to men all over California, Washington, Oregon and Nevada. She recently shared her own observation at a Congressional briefing on how foster care rendered her vulnerable to being exploited. “In most of my 14 different placements in foster care homes, I was raped, and attached to a check. I understood very early that I could be raped, cared for, and connected to money. It was therefore easy to go from that to a pimp, and at least the pimp told me that he loved me.”

Unfortunately, most child welfare systems have failed to properly identify and assist trafficked and exploited children. The protections, services, and protocols established for abused and neglected children within the child welfare system are rarely extended to trafficked girls. Instead, the girls are relegated to the juvenile justice system, criminalized for being raped and trafficked. This must be the only time in which it is the abused child is the one who is incarcerated for the abuse perpetrated against her.

But that’s the problem—these girls are not considered victims. So while in the United States, we have the very same child sex slave markets as in Cambodia, the Philippines, and India, the girls from here, the girls from Southeast DC or South Central LA, are seen as the “ho,” the bad girl, the teen hooker.

It is time to really see these girls and help them. This is the moment to heed President Obama’s call to end modern day slavery, and let’s start right here at home. Because no girl in America, in the 21st century, should be for sale.

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IGP Sindh should have done this before involvement of CJ. It is a shame that he acted when CJ bambooed in his behind. chilloo bhar paani main yeh hara zaaday dhoob marain.

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I hope the day comes when the provincial governments/police acts before CJ and others.