Hadhrat Abu Talha 
reports that Rasulullah :saw: said,
**"Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or an animate picture. (Sahih Bukhari Hadith no. 2986) **
rite u lot out there those who have dogs as pets or keep animated pictures i suggest for ur benefit get rid of em’ 
Surely this is yet another saying attributed to Muhammed where the accuracy is very doubtful. Are angels supposed to be afraid of dogs? I myself believe an angel can take the form of a dog. So I have my bases covered.
If you believe this saying, will angels avoid your home because of your guphsup picture that accompanies your posts?
Re: just thought i’d share this thought
may be real beutiful angels will be scared by big dogs
For those two replies above that ridicule the words or our prophet (PBUH) I would like to say watch out or you may be eating your words some day.
As far as angels being scared is considered ...they are not scared of anything.
About gupsup pictures : we are supposed to make our best affort and although constructive critisizm is okay, and questioning a quote from the prophets is a sign of intellect, making fun of them is a sign of someone who has no basis for his reasoning.
Sometimes you have to understand the underlying meaning. I am no scholar in Islamic studies but I would say that even the simplest of sayings have a benefit for "insan" (human) itself.
Having a dog within the house is an unclean practice. And having animate objects (statues etc) and pictures of the same may be pointing to the similarities that it has with "idol-worshipping."
We are all open to have a slighlty different point of view but Quran and Ahadith were in no way meant as material for comedy and laughs.
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For those two replies above that ridicule the words or our prophet (PBUH) I would like to say watch out or you may be eating your words some day
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Am I ridiculing words of your prophet or words that were attributed to your prophet? Big difference. Do you know if this saying was indeed from Muhammed? I am not ridiculing anyway, just stating my belief that a dog will not prevent an angel from entering a home. I have been in houses with dogs before where I KNOW angels or some other divine presence entered.
As far as cleanliness goes, I have 2 dogs and 3 cats in my home and my cleaning lady would argue that it is a lot cleaner than a dusty desert tent with no running water, plumbing or Clorox 2 on hand. Having a dog does not imply an unclean home and I have a hard time believing a clean house is a prerequisite for an angel to enter.
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And having animate objects (statues etc) and pictures of the same may be pointing to the similarities that it has with "idol-worshipping."
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how about mirrors?
well didbn't ashab-e-kuhf have a dog that guarded them?
plus we have to look at the reasons behind such statements also
ppl back then were idiots and would have started worhsipping pictures and stuff..now, my prized possession of a first run darth vader action figure is not something i pray to, its a dang action figure, niether are any of my pop art work by roy lichtenstein considered divine by me.
same goes for dogs, I will not have dogs in the house, even though i used to have a dog, because i dont want hair everywhere, even cats because I am allergic (had to give up my cats for that very reason)..but as we worry about cleanliness..after all we are told that safai nisf eeman hai or that hygiene and cleanlines is a part of our faith, how many desis do u see with mad body odour and horrid grooming? visit O'hare international terminal anytime and wait when an air india or PIA flight is arriving, and if you think thats bad, walk in bazaars in Karachi and u will figure that out too.
I think that many of these sayings are there to provide guidance and to express the importance of cleanliness or of avoiding worshipping other gods, but are not quite that literal in meaning..
thats my viewpoint and thats how I am living my life.
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how about mirrors?
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shuddup foo...even u wont worship yer own reflection.. (with all due respect and in the spirit of humour :) )
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Am I ridiculing words of your prophet or words that were attributed to your prophet? Big difference. Do you know if this saying was indeed from Muhammed?
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Then you are probably the kind of person that argues if a statement from Quran is actually in the Quran or not also. Do you ? Maybe you should buy the Sahih Bikhari and read it. It just might knock some sense into you.
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I am not ridiculing anyway, just stating my belief that a dog will not prevent an angel from entering a home. I have been in houses with dogs before where I KNOW angels or some other divine presence entered.
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And what makes you think we are going to believe what you are saying? In the statements above you are trying to show a big difference between words of our prophet (pbuh) and the words attributed to him. And you dare to capitalize the words "I KNOW." My dear child, you dont even know if you are going to see the sun tomorrow. Allah can prove all the "I KNOWS" wrong in an instant.
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As far as cleanliness goes, I have 2 dogs and 3 cats in my home and my cleaning lady would argue that it is a lot cleaner than a dusty desert tent with no running water, plumbing or Clorox 2 on hand. Having a dog does not imply an unclean home and I have a hard time believing a clean house is a prerequisite for an angel to enter.
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**SHAME ON YOU FOR COMPARING A HADITH TO THE WORDS OF YOUR CLEANING LADY.
WHO GIVES A HOOT WHAT YOU AND YOUR CLEANING LADY THINK!.
You dare to negate a hadith but quote your cleaning lady? As if that is supposed to convince the readers of this post. People here are much smarter than you.**
Be humble, you will go farther in life.
I said in my earlier post that you might be eating your words. You may start eating now.
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Can you say with 100% certainty that these are words from Muhuammed? Because I can quote my cleaning lady with 100% certainty. You act as though all hadiths are 100% reliable and accurate, and they are obviously not. I don't have to be an Islamic scholar to prove this one is wrong. It is obviously based on culture and not on any mandate from God. I don't need the "smarter people here" to tell me. As if your bold and all caps are supposed to convince me otherwise.
#let uz chat# thanx for sharing bhai.
fayax bhai ignore him, iss kaafir ki aulaad ne aesi hadees sun kar to bhonkna hee hai, khud jo kutta huwa.
It's obvious why dogs are not allowed they are napaak and animate pictures were not allowed because they leads to idolatry.
Some people might argue that we don’t have that problem anymore because nobody worships images but still who are we to say what’s allowed and what’s not, Islam was perfected 1400 years ago with our Nabi (Salallaho alahi wa aalihi wassallam) and we can’t start 'Halalifying' things based on what we think.
many blind people use dogs as guide and for protection
if something happens do you really believe angels will come to rescue?
let comon sense prevail.
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Can you say with 100% certainty that these are words from Muhuammed? Because I can quote my cleaning lady with 100% certainty. You act as though all hadiths are 100% reliable and accurate, and they are obviously not. I don't have to be an Islamic scholar to prove this one is wrong. It is obviously based on culture and not on any mandate from God. I don't need the "smarter people here" to tell me. As if your bold and all caps are supposed to convince me otherwise.
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not only him but all muslims in this world can certify 100% that those are the words of prophet muhammad (PBUH).
so say you and your cleaning lady are right and not the Trillions of Muslims + Gazillion of published Quran and other books of hadiths .
do you think you stand a chance.
Grow up
as for you "rvikz" do read other posts before you post your crap
read what "Fraudz" said.
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not only him but all muslims in this world can certify 100% that those are the words of prophet muhammad (PBUH).
so say you and your cleaning lady are right and not the Trillions of Muslims + Gazillion of published Quran and other books of hadiths .
do you think you stand a chance.
Grow up
as for you "rvikz" do read other posts before you post your crap
read what "Fraudz" said.
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how do you answer father of pakistan's picture all over the goverment offices in pakistan?
someone needs to issue a fatwa against poodles
^^ That would involve purging alot of crap from the religion forum.
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iss kaafir ki aulaad ne aesi hadees sun kar to bhonkna hee hai, khud jo kutta huwa.
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*Next time, stay away from such pathetic name-calling. You were kicked out previously for exactlty the same ill-mannered posts. If this time, you are kicked out, you will not be allowed to come back with any other nick. Keep this in mind.
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Can you say with 100% certainty that these are words from Muhuammed? .
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The answer in short is NO.
there have been many other sayings that were purged from earlier books because they could not be confirmed.
there are some where there were multiple witnesses and the witnesses were trustworthy..
when things get relayed over by many ppl involved, it could become chinese whispers where what was initially said is not what gets written down.
so with all my love and respect for the prophet, I still can not be certain that the hadeeth are all authentic. Additionally, i dont know about others, but myself and many others that I know do not look at them as literal, but as a source of guidance.
Those that I do not understand or do not appear to be logical, I dont follow, hoping that God knows that I am just using my best judgement, logic, and ability to reason that he has blessed humans with.