Just a simple question

[inuit]

*Originally posted by armughal:*then why dont we see u saying ayesha (aleyha salam) and usman (aleyhi salam)???

ali married one daughter of the prophet while usman married two…
and on the death of um-kalthoom he said if i had a third daughter i’d marry him to usman"…

You raised a very good question. We really want to know its answer. This is our QUESTION to you, which you are asking US. That why don’t we see, saying Ayesha (Aleyha Salam) and Usman (Aleyhi Salam).

The status of Ali(AS) is not because of marriage with Fatima(AS), however Ali(AS) himself considered it as a great honor. Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) married Ali(AS) with Fatima because of his status. Read what Prophet(PBUH) said in the following AaHadith. You misunderstood this. Marriage or relationship does not make the status itself. Specifically that status which is blessed by Allah.

Imam Sadiq (A) said:

"Do you know the explanation of (the name) Fatima?

I said:

`Inform me my Master.’

He said:

`She is safeguarded from evil.’

He then added:

*`Had AmirAl-Mu’mineen not married her, no man on earth from Adam on would have been suitable for her until the Day of Rising. *

This narration was also reported by a group of Sunni scholars, among them being Ibn Shirooyah Ad-Dailami who said:

"Um Salamah said: 'The Messenger of Allah said:

`Had Allah not created Ali, there would not have been an equal to Fatima.’

Besides Ad-Dailami, Khawarazmi in Al-Manaqib, Munawi in Kunz al-Haqaeq, and Qandouzi in Yanabea al-Mawaddah have reported this tradition by quoting Um Salamah and Al-Abbas, the Prophet’s uncle.

Fatima Zahra(AS)
http://www.al-islam.org/gracious/9.htm
http://www.al-islam.org/gracious/26.htm

Originally posted by armughal:
so why do u deprive these ahl-e-bayt from the title???

Its not only US. It is the practice of all Muslims. Except those who are working against Ahle Bait(AS) and their Imams(AS). I asked you before to ask your Ullema, read their text, their old books. They were all using Alay Salam for Ali (AS) Fatima(AS) Imam Hassan (AS) Imam Hussain(AS).

Originally posted by armughal:
there is a hadith which says “every child of Adam makes mistakes and the best of those who make mistake r those who repent”

If you want to discuss the about infallibility of Prophets (A), Imams of Ahle Bait (A), Angles and great personalities who were infallible in the history of man kind like Marrium(AS), Sara(AS), Hajira (AS), you can either start a separate thread or you can refer back to those threads and link on which this topic is discussed in detail.

**Note: For K-2 Question pertaining any Hafiz among Shia Muslims is discussed in my previous post. please scroll up to see. **

[inuit]

I myself found the reference of those Hadith in which Bukhari and Muslim used (AS) for Ahle Baith(AS). for which i requested in my previous thread. However there are lot more references from Sunni books i am giving only 5 in which they used Alay Salam for Ahle Bait(AS). The following is the screen shot of that website on which Bukhari and Muslims including some other sunni books are posted in Arabic format. Some translators do changes as per their belief, see the real text.

Edited
Because of bad performance of Geocites on different computers, i am removing this link from this post. and posting in the next post for easy and fast assess. hope that will work.

Taken from:
http://www.al-islam.com/arkan/

At this moment Sunni religion is in real danger.

Wasalam,

[little_human]

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*Originally posted by K-2: *
Thanks armughal and ravage for your replies. Let be dare asking my Shia brothers another question: A friend of mine claims that Shia Muslims don't have tradition of memorizing the whole Qur'an, and you won't find any Hafiz among Shia Muslims.

The above could be completely incorrect and a misconception, but I am asking it very humbly, so that I could tell my friend what is right. Thanks.
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There are hafiz-e Quran who are shias as far as I have heard of. :)

INUIT the geocities.com websites dont' work.

[armughal]

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*Originally posted by inuit: *
I myself found the reference of those Hadith in which Bukhari and Muslim used (AS) for Ahle Baith(AS).
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have u ever read bukhari except from internet (i.e. shiaa websites)????

[inuit]

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*Originally posted by armughal: *

have u ever read bukhari except from internet (i.e. shiaa websites)????
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Bogus question ! this is not a topic of discussion.

[inuit]

i have post screen shot of Bukhari from a sunni site..

make sure ! armughal the references taken from the site which is NOT a shia site..koi aur bahana talash karo..! aur aupna dusman e Ahle bait hona sabat karo.

[batameez]

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by inuit: *
i have post screen shot of Bukhari from a sunni site..

make sure ! armughal the references taken from the site which is NOT a shia site..koi aur bahana talash karo..! aur aupna dusman e Ahle bait hona sabat karo.
.
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inuit the above site has a virus.... remove it before it hits anyone else ...

[inuit]

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*Originally posted by batameez: *

inuit the above site has a virus.... remove it before it hits anyone else ...
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*They locked the old museum’s doors of church to hide the evidences and proofs which were going in favor of Islam. *

It would be very good if you tell me, on which website I upload this page. If you are a Momin, you must tell, otherwise you are stopping the lots of other people to find the truth. You knew it, if you don’t stop this, Sunni Religion will be dead.

For those who don’t want to go to any website, fear they will get virus from internet. They can email me, I am ready to email them the scanned images, if they fear that they will get virus from scanned images I am ready to post them at their home address. And the one who will say that might have anthrax in it.. us ka to bus Allah hi hafiz hay

Until you give the web hosting link I am going to upload this web page on some other internet website to give link to people.

batameez its an open challenge to you: prove me wrong in this claim. Now don’t say aap to juzbati ho gaay this is a matter of truth. Not simply a gupshup.

[honest_guy]

Re: Just a simple question

we use :as: only for the prophets And Masumeen :as: means peace be upon him for the sahaba we use something else i forgot but we dont use :as: for the sahaba

[batameez]

inuit .. the site which i have qouted has a Visual Basic script virus named - VBS. Redolf.A.

as for the rest i am my apologies … but khair post the screen shot/scanned images using the “upload” link in the quickies beside the “Games” …

[inuit]

Screen Short have been uploaded on the following link;
Truth seekers can goto this website:

I have used K-2 and armughal questions to build this website.
If they have any more questions or comments they can ask in this forum.

{Edit: There is a virus alert on the site you just quoted, so the link is removed. To upload pictures on GS, use the Image uploader facility}

Upon revelation of truth, if somebody hides because of some reasons, Allah knows his heard. He will reward him. If he announce clearly in front of people he is providing a clear proof for other people as well as great reward from Allah. I hope K-2 did not just asked the question and armughal is not in such situation, to hide his faith.

Wasalaam,

[Faisal]

Here is the virus message for you, Inuit. Pls scan your computer for all viruses.

Thanks

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[inuit]

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*Originally posted by Faisal: *
Here is the virus message for you, Inuit. Pls scan your computer for all viruses.

Thanks

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I have scanned it now.. I will post the scanned image soon. InshaAllah.

[Farazkhan0007]

Re: Just a simple question

This is really “Salam Alaa Aalay Yaseen” as Mohammad Peace be upon him. But Hajjaj bin yousuf who was the real enemy of the prophet and his Family tries to chang it as “ilyasin” means Hazrat Ilyas. If it is for Hazrat ilyas peace be upon him, it must be “Salam Alaa ilyas” coz he was ilyas not ilyasin. So, this Ayat just for AHLAY BAIT of Muhammad peace be upon him.

You idiots are the followers of the prophet’s Enemy[Edited Out]es.

@Swera

perhaps coz they think he was the prophet:lahol:
I wonder if all of them think that.
but they shouldn’t it’s very clear:)

[Farazkhan0007]

Re: Just a simple question

I myself found the reference of those Hadith in which Bukhari and Muslim used

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/as.gif

for Ahle Baith(AS). for which i requested in my previous thread. However there are lot more references from Sunni books i am giving only 5 in which they used Alay Salam for Ahle Bait(AS). The following is the screen shot of that website on which Bukhari and Muslims including some other sunni books are posted in Arabic format. Some translators do changes as per their belief, see the real text.

http://www.al-islam.com/arkan/

At this moment Sunni religion is in real danger.

Wasalam,

[Farazkhan0007]

Re: Just a simple question

Hahahaha…
Coz there nothing like this my dear friend. Prophet had only one daughter. The other was not his real daughters. So, no one tried to say (a.s) with Usman.

If u wanna see the reality, Please go and try to read your famous book “Tareekh e Tabri”.
Ayesha said "Usman ko Qatal karo do, USMAN kafir ho gaya hay. Sahi Bukhari may hay USMAN ne Quran jalwaey thay. Or aakhir me kisi molvi se pocho ko Usman ko Yahodion k Qabristan me Dafan kion kia gaya ???

Sari Haqeeqat pata lag jaey.

[Farazkhan0007]

Re: Just a simple question

This is really “Salam Alaa Aalay Yaseen” as Mohammad Peace be upon him. But Hajjaj bin yousuf who was the real enemy of the prophet and his Family tries to chang it as “ilyasin” means Hazrat Ilyas. If it is for Hazrat ilyas peace be upon him, it must be “Salam Alaa ilyas” coz he was ilyas not ilyasin. So, this Ayat just for AHLAY BAIT of Muhammad peace be upon him.

You idiots are the followers of the prophet’s Enemy[Edited Out]es.

@Swera

perhaps coz they think he was the prophet:lahol:
I wonder if all of them think that.
but they shouldn’t it’s very clear:)

[Farazkhan0007]

Re: Just a simple question

If there were 2 more Daughter of Prophet Usman was also called (a.s) But Prophet had only one daughter. The other was not his real daughters. So, no one tried to say (a.s) with Usman.

If u wanna see the reality, Please go and try to read your famous book “Tareekh e Tabri”.
Ayesha said "Usman ko Qatal karo do, USMAN kafir ho gaya hay. Sahi Bukhari may hay USMAN ne Quran jalwaey thay. Or aakhir me kisi molvi se pocho ko Usman ko Yahodion k Qabristan me Dafan kion kia gaya ???

Sari Haqeeqat pata lag jaey.

@Swera

perhaps coz they think he was the prophet:lahol:
I wonder if all of them think that.
but they shouldn’t it’s very clear:)

[Farazkhan0007]

Re: Just a simple question

If prophet had 2 more daughters Usman was also called with (a.s). But Prophet had only one daughter. The other was not his real daughters. So, no one tried to say (a.s) with Usman.

If u wanna see the reality, Please go and try to read your famous book “Tareekh e Tabri”.
Ayesha said "Usman ko Qatal karo do, USMAN kafir ho gaya hay. Sahi Bukhari may hay USMAN ne Quran jalwaey thay. Or aakhir me kisi molvi se pocho ko Usman ko Yahodion k Qabristan me Dafan kion kia gaya ???

Sari Haqeeqat pata lag jaey.

[Farazkhan0007]

Re: Just a simple question

If prophet had 2 more daughters Usman was also called with (a.s). But Prophet had only one daughter. The other was not his real daughters. So, no one tried to say (a.s) with Usman.

If u wanna see the reality, Please go and try to read your famous book “Tareekh e Tabri”.
Ayesha said "Usman ko Qatal karo do, USMAN kafir ho gaya hay. Sahi Bukhari may hay USMAN ne Quran jalwaey thay. Or aakhir me kisi molvi se pocho ko Usman ko Yahodion k Qabristan me Dafan kion kia gaya ???

Sari Haqeeqat pata lag jaey.