Lets see who is Dumb around here... I have had this stupid ass discussion with you several times. You belive Music isn't Haraam! Fine dont listen to it. But before implementing your beliefs on others. Look at yourself and see correct yourself as I am sure there are many other things much worse than listening to music and thats what Thats what Islam teaches too!
If I am not mistakened you were the one who asked me to send you Junoon's ishq when I got my hands on it before it was released in the market.
As for Musharaf shaking his booty on stage. I am just happy that stuck ups like Nawaaz and Bhutto are no longer in power and for the first time in Pakistan in ten years Junoon is not banned to perform on stage!
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Originally posted by ammarr:
*AliBeta, if you cant justify your statement *('Its about time Pakistan has broad minded leaders who dont believe in "Music is UnIslamic" crap!' then please accept that this statement is totally wrong. Music is unislamic, pure and simple.. so its certainly idiotic for a muslim to call it 'CRAP'.
What good would a country do if all its people know how to sing 'hay jazba junoon to himmat na har', but are total loosers when it comes to something of substance? Dont forget that Pakistan was built on the foundation of religion, its leaders should uphold that foundation.
Sometimes your immaturity surprises me? Someone questions your statement and instead of justifying it you bring in other examples. Are you dumb or somewhat?
Now since you think that we have a leader who does not believe in {quote}Music is haram CRAP{/quote}, how would it help our country? Why are you so glad about it? Do you like it when Mushi gets up there and shakes his booty?
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[This message has been edited by AliBeta (edited December 31, 2001).]
'Sometimes your immaturity surprises me? Someone questions your statement and instead of justifying it you bring in other examples. Are you dumb or somewhat?'
Now simple yes no question. Can you justify that 'Music is unislamic' is just crap? If not then stop making an idiot out of yourself.
I will repeat myself again too! If you think Music Is Haraam! First stop listening to it yourself. Close down websites that you make! As this is hippocracy! On one hand you say something wrong and on the other you do it yourself. Thats just pathetic!
As for justification. I never said Islam say Music is okay. I just said, I dont believe in that. Samajh main aya yaa punjaabi main samjhaoon?
God I love this! You start using foul language after you werent able to present a healthy argument, is that what your religeon teaches you?
I apologize about the website thing, for some reason I was under the impression that you and Dervaish ran a music website or something. Khare still I am sure you yourself IMed me for Junoon songs! Why listen to them songs if you think that is unIslamic. Or you arent a Muslim then ( sorry buddy you just made me say that).
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Originally posted by AliBeta: As for justification. I never said Islam say Music is okay. I just said, I dont believe in that. Samajh main aya yaa punjaabi main samjhaoon?
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Lets be a little bit careful about what you say in the name of Religion.
If islam says Music is haram and you publically proclaim that you dont believe in it then there are one of the 2 possiblities
1- The Prophet(salalah alaih wasalam) or the Angel Hazarat Gibrael who brought him the message was a liar (naudubillah)
2- Allah(subhana wa ta-alah) is a liar
Because by saying you dont believe in it ur accusing one of the above sources to be incorrect or incomplete. We all know islam is complete, as Allah himself states in the Quran.
Im not typing this message to make you angry or anything. Rather im trying it out of concern. Nowadays in our daily life we say things that we dont always mean or dont realize the rammifications of them. Such things can lead us to kufr or shift or munafiqat. So be careful what you say.
Music is wrong..yet i still listen to it. However i dont proclaim i dont believe in something islam teaches and still claim to be a muslim. Once you take the shahada you are bound to believe in all this religion stands for.
Anyways...thats the end of my post. Lets not talk much further on this topic for that might be the best for us all.
I liked your post Maniac. Once again! I am not saying that anyone is a liar. I am just saying that I listen to Music and dont think there is anything wrong. Everyone is entitled to there opinion. Just like you said you listen to music yet know its wrong.
I have just defended myself from peope who say that Music is haraam and yet listen to it! I mean am I the only one here or isn't that just "qaul aur fale main tazaad".
and dont listn to him because last time was just salman bhai’s pics were posted were awsome and when u meet the band it was kewl
because I know man ure a diehard junooni so y listning to them who dont know wht the junoon means and so is that.
and ali I wish u happy new year.
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