Junoon rock all the way.
All the junoon-haters are actually sufferers of bollywood-music-syndrome.
Leave them alone:mad: People like you make me sick.
PS. Junoon rocks! 
You make me proud, fellow Junoonis 
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I still think the same, junoon sux, dun wanna waste my money on them
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which was posted by Sherni ok now u listen to me if another member of the GS site can write that then i'm sorry to tell u dis RT Wolf i can too ok and then again u have no right to tell me wat to write or do and as far as it is not the appropriate grammer i study AS/A2 level in english language at college and i think i would know what is write and wat is wrong ok.anyways many ppl on GS us informal english coz that's the way they like it y not tell every single person that does that instead of picking a particular person which happens to be me.
next is to captain spock>>>>>>>
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tum log bas logoon ke kaprey hi dekh kar jallo... Btw, I have worked with Salman, and the guy prays even when hes on the road
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. write u hold it right there brother i am not getting jeleous over how they dress ok i was making a clear statement that he was wearing inappropriate clothing which doesn't meet thier sufism needs like they used to dress. and secondly regarding the matter of salman i wasn't actually directing anything towards him i meant brian and ali azamat ok so lets clear the misunderstanding. no i don't need to watch the documentry on PBS either.And how can u say my mulla jees that is disrespect towards them u should know better.
Salman left VS when the whole country was in love with them. That was a huge decision, its not easy to walk away from success and it takes a lot of guts to do something like that. Similarly Jupiters were not doing too bad either at that time with hits like “Dosti” & “Mera Dil Hai Pakistan”. Ali also took a calculated risk and togather they formed “Junoon”.
I dont know why the first ablum was not a bigger success. It did average business but it was an excellent album. I think the first one was a better album then the second one “Talash”.
The album that really labelled them as sofi rock band was “Inquilab”. I think that one is still their best album, though the album included hits like “Saien”, “Mera Mahi” and later on the mega hit “Jazba-e-Junnon” was also included in it, to me the most excellently compsed song in that album was “Rooh Ki Pyass”. An amazing composition with beautiful lyrics and Ali did a beautiful job as the vocalist.
They have had a few more album out after that, and so far they have kept the tradition of experimantation. Some of those experiments were appreciated and some were not taken too well. But remeber that’s the basis of Junnon. The left successful careers to experiment, after the first two album they took a major step and almost replaced the drums with the tabla. The result was “Inquilab” and everybody knows what happened after that.
They hit the international market with “Sayonee” and the country most effected by that was India. The Indians went crazy for Junoon. Junoon’s album was released around the same time bollywood’s musical blockbuster “Dil to Pagal Hai’s” music hit the market. Junoon’s sales overtook the sales of “Dil to Pagal Hai”. That is a huge accomlishment in a country where masses have always tradionally appreciated film music over any other kind of music.
I think Junoon has proven time and again that it’s one of the biggest and brightest band from Pakistan. Instead of bashing them we should be proud of them. I am waiting for the release of “Deewar” and so far the little I heardof the album it sounds good. I hope Junoon can spell thjeir magic again. 
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next is to captain spock>>>>>>> . write u hold it right there brother i am not getting jeleous over how they dress ok i was making a clear statement that he was wearing inappropriate clothing which doesn't meet thier sufism needs like they used to dress.
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Ok tell me what Sufis wear? Do you even know anything about sufism? You said there clothes do not reflect sufism. May I remind you that sufism is not the conventional islam where you have to dress in a particular manner. Sufis were simple, unconventional, cool, harmonious people who did not care about whether they had dress pants and suits on. So your statement doesnt make any sense whatsoever.
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and secondly regarding the matter of salman i wasn't actually directing anything towards him i meant brian and ali azamat ok so lets clear the misunderstanding. no i don't need to watch the documentry on PBS either.
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For your records, Brian is not even a Muslim. But you would be surprised to find out how much he likes Islam and how much he defends islam in the west. He is even appearing on a programme on HBO to prove (as a christian living in pakistan) that he is treated well and muslims arent terrorists like some people assume they are. And next time I meet Ali, I will request him to grow a beard, and come in taliban clothing so that you find him more acceptable.
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And how can u say my mulla jees that is disrespect towards them u should know better.
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Lastly, associating mollahs to you is a disrespect to mollahs???
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*Originally posted by Arnold Shalwaar Nicker: *
Sehar u r right..but dont argue with him.
its like takkar on deewaar maaring waala hisaab.
aqalmand log darguzar kar dete hain aisi batain
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haha where is the album you liar? I met someone who said your site was crap, had like a few albums in it (no deewar hehehehehe), and you were saying its the best paki music site...
Jayo sehar ko aur makhan lagayo, she was wrong, and she already apologized on this thread.
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haha where is the album you liar? I met someone who said your site was crap, had like a few albums in it (no deewar hehehehehe), and you were saying its the best paki music site...
Jayo sehar ko aur makhan lagayo, she was wrong, and she already apologized on this thread.
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Spock yar why are you lying? You know you went to that site because why else would you PM me and ask me for link. You know its okay if you went there, i'm sure asn won't mind. ;)
PS. what's the point picking on each other, why don't guys get along with each other instread?:)
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Spock yar why are you lying? You know you went to that site because why else would you PM me and ask me for link. You know its okay if you went there, i'm sure asn won't mind. ;)
PS. what's the point picking on each other, why don't guys get along with each other instread?:)
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ahem, khekasha, I tried that link, registered but the login never worked, I dont know it was asking me to register twice or something like that... Kher, for your information, I read about the site in www.myjunoon.com and I cant post the link of that thread as its not allowed here. Someone over there who got in, said the site sucked. So darling, Im not lying...
JUNOON GOIN DOWN / SUX - LEZ DISCUSS THAT
thiz thread woz abt junoon goin down - if u got n e problem wit that spock and co. - make ur own thread about junoon and post az many picz u want, cant c the meaning behind postin their picz, wot do ya want to show? … anyway thiz iz my personally view :they juz look nasty and they sing aweful - if u cant take criticism - then itz to bad 4 ya -" tum log bas logoon ke kaprey hi dekh kar jallo"… or assi logg jalliye - junoon kol hai hi ki, kay aisi logg jalliye, they got nothing, na tay gud music or na hi changi awaaz, yes abb bol diya. now say wot eva u want. thiz thread woz abt junoon goin down, so lez discuss that
and u kekhasha - if u cant handle the truth or otherz opinion make ur own thread. peepz like us make u sick - GOOD then dun drop by thiz page again agar aini PIIR hondi eh -
pathan bhai -
gimme a break!!! “All the junoon-haters are actually sufferers of bollywood-music-syndrome” - i guess u dun got anything better to add 
Now find a better excuse - u cant handle the truth, so u juz had to show off wit such crap
bollywood music syndrome - LIMITA HONDIA NAY
Re: JUNOON GOIN DOWN / SUX - LEZ DISCUSS THAT
I agree :k:
Re: JUNOON GOIN DOWN / SUX - LEZ DISCUSS THAT
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thiz thread woz abt junoon goin down - if u got n e problem wit that spock and co. - make ur own thread about junoon
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So anyone who dont want to say " I I captain" should just not post here. I understand the topic was about Junoon going down but if you dont want others opinion on that then why start a thread if you have already made up your mind. I dont think Junoon is going down which I think is evident from their fan follownig which is growing pratically every day.
Re: Re: JUNOON GOIN DOWN / SUX - LEZ DISCUSS THAT
Shoro yar lahori in ko jalney do… They dont have any arguments… The only argument they have put up is that ‘junoon should quit because we dont like them and dont wear good clothes’… :hehe:
The first review is out… The News (Pakistans biggest newspaper, whose sunday instep edition has usually been against Junoon) has given a very nice review and hailed junoon as the best!!! So much for you junoon critics, and also, read the sections in bold!!!
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Scaling Walls
From spiritual trips resulting in the output of sufi-rock to foreign ones giving way to Zeppelin-inspired tunes, **Junoon has come a long, long way and keep rising as they come up with their latest album. An Instep preview! **
By Farrukh Moriani
**For the last decade or so, Junoon has been categorized as Pakistan’s best music brand, and in true celebrity style, have remained in the news for their music or their personal lives. **Courted by controversy, mired in myriad debates surrounding their music and always seemingly at odds with the powers that be within the music industry and beyond, Junoon have lived up to the tag of the rebellious souls of Pakistani music. And yet, amidst all the anti-political posturing, the love-hate relationship with the media, kicking up storms with statements of one ilk or the other, they have successfully managed to stay at the top of their game by doing what they know best and sometimes better: making good music. If you don’t believe that, ask one of the thousands of Junoonis who buy their music and flock their concerts and swear by the name Junoon. Their music may have undergone a metamorphosis over the years, moving from guitar-driven-rock to head banging stuff and then on the religion shading sufi-rock to the hinting of Adult Rock in a contemporary mode to a more commercial/filmi style, but clearly, the junoon is still with them.
Their last album, ‘Ishq’, generated a lot of criticism from fans and critics alike for its distinct abandonment of the sufi-rock genre and its obvious flirtation with a more filmi, mushy style. While this writer would tend to agree that musically, the album didn’t gel in to a great extent and did not serve as the perfect bridge for the gulf that existed between their previous style and their newly acquired taste for the lighter stuff. It is easy to lose sight of the fact that as the premier band in Pakistan, there is a fairly heavy responsibility on Junoon to lead the way when it comes to critical decisions on the shape and sound of their music. Then again, that’s how it works in Pakistan; it becomes so easy for anyone to set a trend. But evolution has to happen, and like many other international acts, Junoon also made a bold step to change their style of music. They have been the pioneers when they started off with rock in the local scene, then not too familiar with even the R of it. ‘Ishq’ was 1990 revisited in the context of going with your own flow and working hard to convert the disbelievers. **For all their commercial savvy listeners, ‘Ishq’ demonstrated to me at least, that being true to their own musical inclinations, was still the first priority for the band. **
That said, the album did come in for much of flak at the hands of both sincere fans and the omnipresent hacks. So it would be perfectly reasonable to expect the band to bow before the criticism, revert back to a formulaic approach on their new album, dismiss ‘Ishq’ as an insignificant blip on their career radar and stow it away in the attic and go back to dabbling in the sufi-rock genre, right?
Wrong. In true Junoon style, their new album, ‘Deewar’, moves on from where they left off on ‘Ishq’. Not only is the music predominantly and significantly devoid of aspirations towards sufi-rock or any other formula-driven style, it presents an intriguing attempt at marrying political statements with personal expressions, as well as trying to make honest bedfellows out of rough-hewn rock and neo-pop. Importantly, with so much having been said about the imminent demise of Junoon as a group, **the making of ‘Deewar’ is the perfect riposte to all these rumours. **
One year in the making and flitting across two continents as it was mixed and produced in Pakistan and in the US, ‘Deewar’ is a statement of hope amidst the many hurdles, the resistance and the prejudices that surround our lives today, particularly against the backdrop of 9/11. The eleven songs on the album are not structured in the sense of revolving around a defined theme, as they touch upon romance, political realism and idealism, but the songs send out positive vibes and have an outlook that falls short of being naive but is sincere. Contrary to everyone’s expectations, the album does not contain any English songs and ‘No More’ which has been on heavy rotation on music channels, does not feature on ‘Deewar’ as it will form part of an English album-being launched through EMI, UK-that will follow the release of ‘Deewar’. To me that’s a plus, for I’ve never been too keen on multi-lingual albums as they tend to dissipate the mood, unless very tightly woven into a specific musical theme and treatment.
Three things stand out for me on the new album, which is due to hit the market on July the 15th: one, the continued pursuit of a sound that nestles somewhere between rock and pop; two, the swapping of some roles and evolution of others within the band; and three, the improved production values on the album which give it a crisp, tight sound. As we’ve said, ‘Deewar’ continues the journey begun with ‘Ishq’ in terms of musical outlook in that it consciously tries to shake off the strait-jacketing of the band in a music genre and tries to break free from the confines of stereotyping. All the songs may eventually be sending out messages - some subtle others harsh - about the need to hope for and believe in better days, but musically, the album is diverse with the softer gentler tones of ‘Sapney’ vying for attention with the bluesy-funky grooves of ‘Pappu Yaar’. This is clearly a result of the growing input of Ali in making the music for the band. Two of the songs on ‘Deewar’, the excellent opener ‘Taara Jala’ and ‘Sapney’ have their music done by Ali and present a sound that is fairly distinct from the rest of the songs on the album. And as part of the evolution of the roles of band members, while Ali dabbles with making music,** the album sees the launch of Salman as a serious vocalist. **
This role swapping is to me one of the exciting facets of the new album. Clearly, both have miles to go and promises to keep in their new roles, but it has to be said that Ali’s music and Salman’s singing (on the title track which was initially made in English, ‘Hangama’ and the remake of ‘Khwaab’ as well as backing up on ‘Ghoom Tana’) are outright revelations. What is also very obvious on the new album are the high production values, **as the work of John Alec and Shehzad Hasan and all the people at Imaad Studios at Karachi and John Alec Studios in New York have lent the album a well-knit, tight sound. Too often, Pakistani music has suffered as much for lack of quality content as it has for poor production values, but on ‘Deewar’ there’s a good package on offer. **
There are a number of songs that catch one’s attention, including the romantic ‘Taara Jala’, the flirtation with Ghalib on ‘Hangama’ and the enchanting remake of ‘Khwaab’ -which will be used as an anthem for a UN HIV/AIDS campaign. But to me, the strongest material on the album comes in the form of three songs: ‘Pappu Yaar’, which is a funky, tongue-in-cheek, index finger salute by the band to the people who are trying to write Junoon off (critics and bands alike); ‘Garaj Baras’ which dominates with Ali’s vocal play; and ‘Ghoom Tana’, which can be predicted a future hit with its inspiring feel and message. Incidentally, Ali Noor of noori features as a guest vocalist on this song. It is also interesting to note that the band reveals some of their influences by way of the title song, ‘Deewar’ which is almost homage to Nirvana, particularly their ‘Smells Like Teen Spirit’ and ‘Baarish’, which is inspired by Led Zeppelin’s ‘Battle of Evermore’. But these two songs along with ‘Maza Zindagi Ka’, which Junoon should file under ‘forgettable’-represent the weaker commercial links in the album. There is also ‘Jhoolay Lal’ -which appears to be a sufi-rock number included on the album for ol’ times’ sake, but will have them dancing in the aisles nevertheless, for Junoon have this kind of music down to pat.
Sabir Zafar’s lyrics tend to lose their intensity, something Junoon has to look on while nobody can beat Ali in the race for the best vocals. Similarly, Salman’s playing and the work of the unsung hero of the band, Brian, continues to mesh together well. Junoon proves to be better called men than boys. Though, ‘Deewar’ might not define the new Junoon sound completely and while it represents a major step forward from ‘Ishq’, I believe that Junoon’s next Urdu album would be another healthy step in the music. There are still some loose ends to the album and the kind of solidity that emanates from the artist being at complete ease with what he has produced does not readily come though on this work. What ‘Deewar’ does do however, is to prove the band’s confidence in themselves and their desire to make music that is as much a real-politic statement as it is a reflection on their personal lives.
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Ok tell me what Sufis wear? Do you even know anything about sufism? You said there clothes do not reflect sufism. May I remind you that sufism is not the conventional islam where you have to dress in a particular manner. Sufis were simple, unconventional, cool, harmonious people who did not care about whether they had dress pants and suits on. So your statement doesnt make any sense whatsoever.
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totally missing the point ok i know wat sufis dress like my brother is a sufi himslef ok and he has a pir shaib too and according to u u don't even knoe islam dude ok.
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For your records, Brian is not even a Muslim. But you would be surprised to find out how much he likes Islam and how much he defends islam in the west. He is even appearing on a programme on HBO to prove (as a christian living in pakistan) that he is treated well and muslims arent terrorists like some people assume they are. And next time I meet Ali, I will request him to grow a beard, and come in taliban clothing so that you find him more acceptable
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i was talking about ali azamat and ii don't care about brian so missing the point agian.
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Lastly, associating mollahs to you is a disrespect to mollahs???
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don't make sense.
lastly i think u hate to hear the truth and lose an argument grow up.
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i totally agree wid u sherni
thanxxx chand chehraaa ;)
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totally missing the point ok i know wat sufis dress like my brother is a sufi himslef ok and he has a pir shaib too and according to u u don't even knoe islam dude ok.
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Sufis arent pir or mollahs!!! Do some research. You dont need to be dressing up like a mollah to be a sufi, its in your heart... The melodies and all...
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i was talking about ali azamat and ii don't care about brian so missing the point agian.
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you yourself said you were talking about ali azmat and brian, ab jhoot na bollo. Shall I quote?
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and secondly regarding the matter of salman i wasn't actually directing anything towards him **i meant brian and ali azamat ok **so lets clear the misunderstanding.
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don't make sense.
lastly i think u hate to hear the truth and lose an argument grow up.
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sorry to say but u put up a worthless argument. If your argument is limited to their clothes, then sorry to say I wont argue with u... bye
captian spock i have said wat i wanted to say and i don’t want to get into a big arguement , i don’t think i am getting through to u at all and the sooner u except the facts and move on the better. 
Junoon mar gaya. spocky putar how iz ur cd. u enjoying ali i mean da cd? :D