Judiciary has become a dictator: Gilani

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He was convicted in Switzerland (based on proofs). The same 11 crates worth of proofs which were hauled away from Switzerland after PPP came to power.

Country is not unstable because of this case. It is unstable because of the fact that PPP has no interest in establishing the government's writ in the country. It is only interested in pocketing money, money money. The party should change its name from PPP to MMM.

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Q: Do shameless have any shame?
A: No..its all abt money..

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I used to support judiciary just like others. But now I tend to agree that this judiciary is as bad as other political parties. Arsalan Iftikhar's case has been instrumental in changing my views against judiciary.
You can condemn PPP all you want but you can't deny the extremely partial actions of this judiciary. Iftikhar chaudhry is like a jihadi/Nawaz supporter abusing that position.
Today there is a massacre of Shias happening all over the country and Iftikhar Chaudhry is responsible for these massacres since he exonerated the worst of the sectarian terrorists from Sipahe Sahaba and Lashkare Jhangvi.

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^ Well for that you cannot completely blame the judiciary, what changes have been made in the country's laws (especially the witness part of it)? Under the current laws the culprits get scott free, as a result the army abducts people which goes against them in the end. This was a big war, before indulging it the laws should have been changed to reflect the changed scenario, 11 years down the road and still no change.

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Laws mean nothing when witnesses, police officers and lawyers get death threats if they speak truth.
Iftikhar Chaudhry should have known it better. He knew very well whom he is letting go and what will be the consequences. He knew very well that the only thing these people know is to hate and kill, and they will do just that if they are let go. And yet he let them go because the prosecutors could not prove the case against them to the "satisfaction" of Iftikhar Chaudhry.

He likes to take suo-moto notices against every action that government takes, but he is oblivious to the hateful threatening speeches that these sectarian terrorists make all time.

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^ I agree, but its not only judiciary...the reaction of the media, government, military, opposition and even the mainstream population (who dont agree with these sectarian animals) keep quiet on this. I will not support the CJ on the allegations that are being thrown on him regarding his bias, but in our present laws one cannot be punished in the absence of evidence and the witnesses as you have mentioned can be easily scared off. The whole anti terror laws should have been revamped so that the culprits could be punished through forensic evidence. Presently if the lawyers dont present the case properly, or the witnesses back off how can you expect the judges to punish the culprit under existing laws?

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so you suggest that CJ Ifitkhar should act like army and keep everyone jailed even when prosecution fails to provide sufficient evidence against them?

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So you suggest he let those terrorists go even when he knows very well that there release will result in massacres of innocent people in future?
There are other things which could be done. But Iftikhar Chaudhry likes to selectively choose to impose law on people he wants.

He likes suo moto notices on anything the federal government does but never asked anything from government in Punjab. Is PMLN really a party of saints?
He took the JUST stand against Musharraf in 2007, but himself endorsed his coup in 1999. Why did he forget all JUSTICE when it came to his appointment as CJ by Musharraf?

The lawyers' movement was a farce movement, and PPP made a mistake by appointing him as a CJ. It's good that many in PPP are now realizing this mistake. I hope they succeed in removing him on the basis of his endorsement of Musharraf in 1999.

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You can read in between lines or make of it what you believe, justice needs to be carried out as written out in the laws, if you disagree with how justice is being carried out then the flaws in laws should be fixed to allow judiciary/police to capture such terrorists and keep them behind bars. Police in Karachi or other parts can carry out extra-judicial killings but when it comes to actual terrorists they are kept safe and sound in jails, right?

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I agree with you govt has fail to set up courts or a system to expedite terrorist cases. I would have set up army led courts (security courts like those in Egypt) with one shot appeal and execution w/o recourse to civilian legal process.

Btw, burden of proof is very hard to meet in some cases where known terrorists are involved, but you can't prove guilt to satisfaction of a judge. Many of those arrested after lal masjid operation have been released by the courts & are fighting security forces & CJ gave clean chit to burka mullah to runs his mosque on govt land.

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I agree with you that he should have punished the government but kept his balance so as to avoid public criticism. On the one side we have super quick suo motos and on the other side dragging their feet.

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What I am saying is reality. When it was known fully well that letting these terrorists go will result in more killings in future then it was his responsibility to do whatever he could to keep them under arrest.
I wonder how he felt like when the judiciary let to of those sectarian terrorists. Did he think that justice is done?

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So you think he should write laws too now? IMO, if police thinks strongly against a particular person that he will kill more people then they should do what they did in Karachi, or keep bringing them to jail under different charges.

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A Most Dangerous Man

**The Supreme Court of Pakistan on July 15 released on bail Malik Ishaq, leader and founder of Al Qaeda-linked Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, on grounds of “lack of evidence.” The man had been facing a number of cases at the antiterrorism court in Lahore charging him with hundreds of murders. He remained in jail for 14 years while evidence against him gradually decayed and disappeared—a pattern traced by terrorists in custody, none of whom has so far been punished in a country crawling with terrorist organizations.
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On his release, he was received outside Kot Lakhpat prison by leaders of Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan, banned in 2001 as a terrorist organization but now—after being renamed harmlessly to Ahle Sunnat wal Jamaat—resting in a legal grey area because of an appeal lying with the higher judiciary. The Sahaba leader heading the welcome party was Maulana Muhammad Ahmad Ludhianvi—recalling an anti-Shia 1980s polemicist who was assassinated in Karachi—who came in handy when the current Army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, called on Ishaq to talk to the terrorists who had attacked Army General Headquarters in Rawalpindi in 2009. The Army chief’s personal plane had carried Ishaq to Rawalpindi, while another plane belonging to the ISI chief, Gen. Shuja Pasha, carried Ludhianvi.

Sipah-e-Sahaba’s welcome party was hardly a dozen strong, but by the time it reached the border of South Punjab, the numbers began to swell. If in Okara it was a few hundred, and a thousand in Khanewal, it was nearly 5,000 in Bahawalpur—the city of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi’s sister terrorist organization, Jaish-e-Muhammad. When Ishaq arrived in his village of Tarinda Sawai Khan in Rahim Yar Khan, the crowd out to greet him was actually 15,000-strong, as claimed by a Sahaba publication.

Their newspaper, *Daily Ummat *Karachi, in its July 16 edition said Ishaq had been freed without any “secret deal” and that he had rededicated himself to war against the proliferation of “insulters” of the Companions of the Prophet (peace be upon him) on the Internet as he now fought under the flag of Sipah-e-Sahaba after disbanding Lashkar-e-Jhangvi. How far Jhangvi will be disbanded after appearing on the flag of Al Qaeda’s 313 Brigade (which includes Jandullah and Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan) is yet to be seen. One reason Ishaq has joined Sahaba is that the banning order against it is on hold and this takes him away from the mischief of the antiterrorism law.

According to the publication, Ishaq was wanted in 43 cases, involving 70 murders, out of which he had been acquitted in 37 and awarded bail in eight. The last case, involving planning—from prison—the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore in 2009 has concluded in another bail at the Supreme Court after which he has been released. Earlier resistance to release by the Punjab government had required Lahore to pay for the monthly sustenance of Ishaq’s family. This time Lahore let him go. *Daily Ummat *says that, because Punjab was not releasing Ishaq, Sipah-e-Sahaba decided to reach an agreement with Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif on electoral support in Bhakkar from where the latter was elected unopposed with the help of Ishaq’s brother.

Arriving back in South Punjab, Ishaq has consolidated the power of the hard-line sectarian organizations emanating from the state policy of jihad. He is ranked at par with the chief of Jaish-e-Muhammad, Maulana Masud Azhar, famous for his companionship with Osama bin Laden and his linkage with Omar Sheikh, who contributed to the killing of *The Wall Street Journal *reporter Daniel Pearl in Karachi in 2002. Sheikh, too, has been charged with planning terrorist acts—including against then President Pervez Musharraf—from his prison cell in Sindh. Azhar and Sheikh were both sprung from an Indian jail in 1999 and released in Kandahar, after the hijacking of an Indian airliner in Nepal, as a result of a deal facilitated by a Pakistan-dominated Taliban government in Afghanistan.

Ishaq headed a union of shopkeepers in Rahim Yar Khan when he fell under the thrall of Maulana Haq Nawaz Jhangvi, the founder of the Shia-apostatizing Sipah-e-Sahaba in 1982 after his contacts with Arab princes enjoying extraterritorial hunting rights in Rahim Yar Khan made him strong. Against the background of an Arab-Iranian confrontation in the region, Sahaba flourished financially, too. The other devotees of Maulana Jhangvi were Jaish-e-Muhammad’s Azhar and Riaz Basra, who was killed in a “police encounter” in 2002 because “no judge could sentence him.” Basra and Ishaq founded Laskhar-e-Jhangvi.

After Ishaq was arrested in 1997 in the wake of the killing of five Iranian Air Force trainees in Rawalpindi, Basra threatened the government with dire consequences unless he was released. Meanwhile, another Lashkar-e-Jhangvi commander, Akram Lahori, went on killing Shias in Karachi, which according to Ishaq was much easier because the Jhangvi cadre there was better trained than in the Punjab. (Training was received in Al Qaeda camps in Surobi, Afghanistan.) **Facing trial in Multan, Lahori, responsible for the killing of such well-known Karachi figures as businessman Shaukat Mirza and prominent Shia doctors, was indicted in 2010 after living comfortably in jail for seven years. Witnesses against him in Multan continue to die or disappear. Witnesses against Ishaq also have a hard time surviving, as in the case brought against him by a Shia citizen, Fida Husain Ghalvi, charging that Ishaq had killed 10 of his family.

The Punjab government has made a deal with Sipah-e-Sahaba after seeing its growing clout in South Punjab. One well-known episode was recorded by jihadist newspaper Islam: “Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah visited Jhang and paid his respects at the tomb of the founder of the greatest banned sectarian-terrorist Deobandi organization, Sipah-e-Sahaba, Maulana Haq Nawaz Jhangvi. He led a delegation of the [Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz)] which also included parliamentary secretary Iftikhar Baloch and party M.P.A. from Jhang, Sheikh Yaqub. He also visited the tombs of other Sipah-e-Sahaba martyr-leaders like Maulana Isarul Qasimi and Allama Azam Tariq.”
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Threatened communities have reacted predictably. Shia outfit Imamia Students Organization issued the following statement: “The planned release of terror kingpin Malik Ishaq who is also the co-founder of banned organization Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, with the blessing of Punjab government’s weak prosecution and the court’s blind decision is likely to fuel the ruthless killings of Shias across the country.” Sri Lanka, which hoped to get justice for the attack on its cricket team, and Iran, whose cultural consul Muhammad Ali Rahimi was allegedly killed by Ishaq in Multan in 1997, will also be offended. His release was badly timed. President Asif Ali Zardari’s paid a goodwill visit to Iran the same week.

When the Iranian consul in Lahore Sadeq Ganji was assassinated in 1990, the strong presence of Sipah-e-Sahaba in politics prevented the due process of law to unfold. At the Lahore High Court, where the killers faced trial, many judges retired or were elevated before the court was able to pass the obvious death sentence. Sahaba wanted to pay *diyat *or blood money for the killer it wanted spared, and even approached Iran in this respect. The power of apostatizing sectarian elements has redoubled in 2011 and “legal” political parties have to align with them to survive in certain regions. All it takes is a renaming of the banned organization.

Ahmed is a director at the South Asian Free Media Association (SAFMA) in Lahore.

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they released this monster? this is just insane!!

its like giving them free hand do whtever you like, kill as many people you like. utterly disgusting!

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Ali_Syed I'm going to paste this article in Gilgit killings thread.....!! our readers need to know this.

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And here are the pictures when he was released from the jail and look at the number of people who came out to receive him from jail


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looking at these pictures just makes me sick to my stomach.

this reminds of how after Late Salman Taseer murder, Qadri supporters came out on the roads, threw rose petals at him, and shouted Allahu Akbar.

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My fear is that Qadri is going to be the biggest threat to Pak society's peace in ten years from now.

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No problem, in Pakistan every one is scared of these monsters, and that includes judiciary, government, ordinary people (I think they are more indifferent as long as it does not affect them). The government should have changed the laws long ago to ensure that the terrorists get punished but nothing has happened in that space, the judiciary is quick to take suo moto actions on different issues but in this case they seem to be dragging their feet.

As far as the culprits are concerned, killing seems to be something like a hobby for them, and what a good image we are creating of ourselves in the whole world of an intolerant/uncivilized country where we cannot tolerate dissenting people (of different sects and religions). The animals who go on killing sprees to protect 'the religion from infidels', dont realize that after death the question that would be asked from them is what religion they follow and not their sect.