Join the British Army and become a martyr, say Muslims

Join the British Army and become a martyr, say Muslims

ABUL TAHER

A GOVERNMENT-BACKED Islamic organisation is teaching young Muslims that dying while fighting for the British armed forces is an act of martyrdom.
The British Muslim Forum (BMF) explains to young people that even if a Muslim soldier dies in combat while fighting in an Islamic country such as Afghanistan, he will still be regarded as a martyr and a hero for this country.

The BMF is holding talks across Britain to persuade young people not to follow the teachings of Muslim extremists who instruct their followers that joining the British military is a “traitorous act”.

Its aim is to counter radicals’ misuse of the term “martyr”, which has become associated with terrorist suicide operations. The BMF was a leading member in a taskforce set up by Tony Blair after the July 7 bombings to combat extremism among Muslims.

In its forums its case workers and imams cite Lance-Corporal Jabron Hashmi, 24, a British Pakistani from Birmingham who was killed in combat in July in Afghanistan.

Islamic extremists have called him a “salaried traitor” as he died fighting Taliban Muslims at the command of non-Muslim generals. They argue he should not have received an Islamic burial as he died an “infidel”.

However, BMF case workers counter that he died a martyr. “We are calling him a martyr because he died fighting for his country. Islam teaches us to be loyal and abide by the laws of the land. We believe fighting for Britain is not being a traitor. And young people are getting the message,” said Khurshid Ahmed, the BMF’s chairman.

The BMF, a body representing 600 mosques, is one of Britain’s largest Muslim organisations. It is the government’s main working partner in the Muslim community.

Comment:

How nice to see that this organisation will not have their funding cut by the Government due to promoting the integrationist agenda. Re-defining the Islamic term martyr and giving it a completely different meaning will eventually lead to re-writing the Quran and the changing of Islam to fit in with society today.

Christianity in the past and today is going through such a phase where things forbidden in the bible are now acceptable such as homosexuality, same sex marriages and women priests.

Will we see such things in Islam? Nawuzubillah, I hear u say, but if organisations like BMF (Blair’s Muslim Followers) have their way don’t be surprised that martyr is the only Islamic term they re-define to please their masters in Downing street.

Re: Join the British Army and become a martyr, say Muslims

you can chose to live in Britain but opposed to fighting for the country? That sounds bizarre and will only expose the ingrate nature of people and organizations that call the soldier a traitor.

Re: Join the British Army and become a martyr, say Muslims

okay BMFs definition of a martyr is incorrect, but those of al qaeda, hammas and hezbolla are right on the mark?

get real

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what if the country invades another country illegally - illegal could mean against international laws, norms as well as contradicting/conflicting with your views based on religion, would you fight alongside the illegal invasion or oppose it?

Re: Join the British Army and become a martyr, say Muslims

u mean the way hezbollah did when it attacked israeli soldiers and killed 8 of them and took two of them as prisoners?

or when arabs invaded israel in 1948 and 67 and 73?

Re: Join the British Army and become a martyr, say Muslims

as a citizen you are bound by the laws of the land. While one may chose to practice a religion any which way, there is only one way about laws of the land.

There is no such thing as international law. There are treaties, there are organizations and some institutions for specific purposes but no such thing as international law. If there was one, most national constitutions will have to be cancelled, being in conflict.

Which I think bring the question of 'what about an illegal invasion'. That's a hard one and I am not sure how to answer that. Because, 'legal invasion' doesn't exist! That is probably why they said all is fair in war

Re: Join the British Army and become a martyr, say Muslims

Fraudz

I’m glad u agree that BMF’s definition of martyr is incorrect and not based on Islam. But who claimed that Al-Qaeda, Hamas and Hizbollahs definition is correct? No one mentioned those groups or anything remotely linked, so why did u mention them? Who is your remark aimed it?

Also the true definition on martyr is found in the Quran and Hadith and this is the one we must follow and accept regardless of whether Western powers accept it or not.