You’d often hear people say agar kismat mein ho ga tau mill jaye ga, jitna rizq Allah ne kismat mein likha hai utna he mille ga etc etc.
But don’t we reap what we sow? If I haven’t worked hard enough to make a certain amount of income then it’s not that meri kismat mein itna he likha tha. Had I worked harder, I could’ve achieved more.
So do you believe that we can/do control our destiny?
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I don't like to view life like we are all dependent on destiny rather than destiny is dependant on us, because that makes me feel helpless like I'm being dominated by an invisible force that I cannot resist, as if life is some kind of pre-arranged inevetible program and everybody has their prescribed role. I don't know how true it is but I don't like the feeling of it. I like the idea of free will and a unwritten future full of possibilities. Destiny and fate is definitely a deep complex subject in which both sides of the argument are actually really strong hence the confusion. As per the perspective on kismet I work really hard, and strive to be my best, and for my personal record I have been extremely patient/compliant but my "kismet" is not too wonderful but can it get wonderful I like to dream so.
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kisi kii lottery bhii to nikal aatii hai jis ne bilkul bhii hard work nahiiN kiyaa hotaa...kisii ko sab kuchh mil jaataa hai par vo use iste'maal nahiiN kar paataa...yeh sab qismat kaa khel hai. jo naseeb meN hotaa hai vo mil kar hii rahtaa hai.
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^ what happens to me when i try to make sense of it.
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Rizq utna hi milta hai jitna qismat mein likha hota hai, hard work/ education se zara sahulat se mil jata hai. With education sometimes you get more for just writing a minor report in an air conditioned room, than the laborers sweating hard in the streets all day carrying heavy loads. Then again, you had worked hard to get education.
The Holy Quran verse where Allah says " Laisal insaana illa ma sa'a"* (There is nothing for man except what he strives for)*, is mainly in the context of the hereafter life (according to Scholars).
In this life, you would find all types of cases. Some people getting more than what they strive far, some getting less, some getting equal (depending upon opportunities/ facilities/ luck/ situation of their country). All depending upon many factors, also the policies made by the dominated people of a society. 100% justice would be done in the hereafter life.
I might be wrong. Allah knows best!
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Hmmm, if rizq is all set whether you work for it or not then I am really wasting my time going to work every day.
I remember of a hadees when a person came to prophet 
and asked for some charity. Prophet did not say that oh sure, sit at the corner and Allah will send you your rizq. No. Instead he collected some money and gave bought that guy an Axe and asked him to go and chop wood and sell it to support his living.
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When I don’t get a job that I wanted, I take it as “jo kismet mein tha” (maybe not right away 
but eventually I calm down to think it through)…that doesn’t mean I’ll stop looking for a job.
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taqdeer per iman lanay say muslman kabhi frustrated nahi hosakta or na over confident
agar app ki ummedoon kay mutabiq result nahi nikla or app nay mehnat ke thee to its ok mere Qismat main yehe tha
agar app ko kam mehnat ya baghair koi mehnat keye bohat kuch mil gaya tub bhi yeh sooch k mera kamal nahi Allah ka fazal ho gaya ..
baqee taqdeer/qismat kia hay
is main kaha jata hay
taqdeer kay baaz faislay aysay hain jo atal hain..
or taqdeer kay baaz faislay aysay hain jo duaoon say ,mehnat say or naik ammal say badal jaatay hain
is ki sub say baare misal SADQA ki haqeeqat hai ..kay SADQA insan per annay wale Aafaat ko taalta hai !
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A lot of people here in KSA are not doing anything but earning, as the day they were born they were the owner of the property worth millions. Even there are people who have been organizing everything for them throughout their life, because of their parents.
On the other hand, people are working harder in Africa since they were 4 years old, but getting very less relatively. The concept of Taqdeer is beyond our understanding that is why discouraged in hadiths ti discuss too much.
In short, a person entered the Masjid and asked Hazrat Ali (r.a) about fate and free will. Hazrat Ali told him to raise his one leg, he did so, then told him to lift the other as well at the same time, he couldn't. Hazrat Ali (r.a) replied, "This is the difference. ALLAH has kept some in your hand, and some in HIS hand"
A lot of people work all their life to achieve something, but die just when it was the time to reap what they had been sowing for years. But some get it in this life.
But this doesn't deny the saying, **"Harkat mein Barkat Hai" **One does get reward in one form or the other.
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^ You make a good point. Hard work does not guarantee prosperity and perhaps that is where destiny comes in?
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^ You make a good point. Hard work does not guarantee prosperity and perhaps that is where destiny comes in?
Hard work at least has more chances of success than sitting on our behind and waiting for man-o-salwa to come down.
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They suggest hard work and prayer can change kismet, what would be the purpose of prayer if all is set in stone??
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When Allah decides rizk for us He also decides how much we will be working for it ..
Someone who depends on kismit and doesnt take steps to better his situation , Allah has decided for him that certain amount of rizk he is getting and the amount of work he is doing ...
Similarly we aim for higher positions or feel we have the potential to do alot more but sometimes we arent able to achieve all that we want , hence we believe rightly that rizk and effort have already been decided for us.
Only and only dua is the tool , which can change things for us .. even that is decided for us long before , by Allah .. sometimes our effort and rizk become muhtaaj to our dua's .. that is, Allah blesses us with the power to get better rizk by begging for His mercy upon us and by constant dua ..
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Well, I believe that we get what we work for. Hard work always pays off definitely or else Allah have wouldn’t given brains to humans. Only one thing which is certainly going to happen to everyone and which is written in our destiny is death.
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Wahi hota hai
Jo manzooray khuda hota hai
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I don't like to view life like we are all dependent on destiny rather than destiny is dependant on us, because that makes me feel helpless like I'm being dominated by an invisible force that I cannot resist, as if life is some kind of pre-arranged inevetible program and everybody has their prescribed role.
I also think the same way.
I don't view hardships as bad qismat. I don't look at the speed bumps in my life as bad luck. To me, they seem to mean that either I missed something or Allah swt did not find this route appropriate for me. One or the other. If I sat down and counted all of the times things went wrong when I wanted them to go right...well...I'd be suicidal. Because it happens. Life happens. And you're lucky to be the person you are so its fine if I didn't get that job I wanted or didn't marry that guy I liked. Its fine because I have a lot of things in my life worth caring for Alhumdulillah.
They suggest hard work and prayer can change kismet, what would be the purpose of prayer if all is set in stone??
They say hard work and prayer can do anything because Allah swt listens to our duas.
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^Agree, the day I see the fruit of my prayers will be the happiest day of my life.
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Well generally, "Yeh aapki Qismat mein nahin tha" is used when people want you to not over burden yourself with the guilt "had I done this, it wouldn't have happened" So that you may easily move on and leave the past behind after learning from your mistakes
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Do your utmost but have firm believe that whatever is the outcome it was my qismat.
Called* Raza bil qaza. *
You may work hard but may not get the desired reward and you may not work had and may get some thing. Like in famous qissa of hadrat Ali 
that tie you camel with knot…
Sorry for being brief you people know better i am just sharing my thoughts.
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had many debates on the subject of pre-written destiny and free-will......never felt that I had convinced anyone of anything and now I believe that people will believe that which provides them with the most comfort/satisfaction at that particular stage in their lives.....
many argued that if my destiny is pre-written then how can I be held accountable for my actions?
an overly simplified explanation:
example of that which is pre-written: a man will be walking along and find a wallet full of money that was dropped by someone.
example of free-will: said man will decide what he should do with the wallet (i.e. turn it in or take the money for himself)
so some things are pre-written (e.g. that you will happen upon a dropped walllet, or laws of physics et al) and some things we will be held accountable for because we were blessed with the ability to think and decide.