when it comes for a man to be faithful to his parents............ yo womenz start whining and all....and open threads like this
obviously the two threads are completely different.......
both have made allowances for special and excruciating circumstances.
let me know if I should type that spaced out so its easier to understand.
yeah lets characterize the complex universe of human behavior based on one or two points of reference. man no get along with his mom = he bad man.
i have another one - what do you make of people who want to keep figuring other people out based on one or two stereotypical points?
I don't know how you get one or two points of reference.....the matter being discussed here is being addressed in terms of "likelihood".....not your cup of tea? that's cool.
likelihood? lets see.. so if there was a thread called "Jo Aurat" about what the likelihood of divorced women being unsuitable around family life, it would be okay?
likelihood? lets see.. so if there was a thread called "Jo Aurat" about what the likelihood of divorced women being unsuitable around family life, it would be okay?
this is pretty much the same thing.
I don't see why not......go ahead and start the thread....let's see what turn it takes.....
but I see what you mean…especially when there are other similar threads currently active and queer finds this one to be important enough for his attention…
A badtameez person is just that - badtameez. If he is going to be badtameez to his parents then yes it is very likely that he will be badtameez with other people in his life as well. And I'd think it applied equally to women as well.
Now if we are talking about loyalty then you'd have to define what loyalty is. Everyone's definition is different. Some people think that a grown man moving out of his parents house after getting married is somehow being disloyal to his parents. Or a man siding with his wife instead of his mother in an argument is being disloyal. Or a man not putting his salary on his mom's hatheli on the first of every month is being disloyal.
Also take people who are argumentative in nature. They may bicker a bit more with their parents than maybe someone witha bit of a passive personality. Does that automatically mean that they are a disloyal, disrespectful human being and will make a terrible spouse? There are people who will answer yes to that and people who will answer no. It all really depends on your judgement of a certain situation.
I personally don't think that the statement can be taken as it is. Obviously we are desi and we have to come up with such melodramatic statements to make life a bit more interesting.
A badtameez person is just that - badtameez. If he is going to be badtameez to his parents then yes it is very likely that he will be badtameez with other people in his life as well. And I'd think it applied equally to women as well.
I agree that how you handle any situation basically reflects upon your temperament as an individual. But at the same time our cultural bias come into play when we judge someone as good or bad.
The characteristics attributed to a good son/husband or daughter/wife are different in Pakistani culture as compared to western culture or for that matter it differs from family to family.
The characteristics attributed to a good son/husband or daughter/wife are different in Pakistani culture as compared to western culture or for that matter it differs from family to family.
of course there are differences presented by cultural nuances.....but you must agree that certain general rules apply across the board........honesty, loyalty and respect being just a few.
of course there are differences presented by cultural nuances.....but you must agree that certain general rules apply across the board........honesty, loyalty and respect being just a few.
Right. But how you define them also depends on your culture and family.
Right. But how you define them also depends on your culture and family.
agree to some degree.....
there may be different ways of showing respect but honesty and loyalty are pretty clear cut.....you are either truthful or you are not.....you are either loyal or you are not.....
ultimately what I am trying to say is that certain character traits can be and are used (like it or not) to determine a person's character and these same determinations, obviously combined with other evidence, are going to paint a picture in someone's mind.