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^^^ First we (Pakistanis) have to understand the difference between corruption and crime … that is:
Corruption: Corruption can be done only by person holding government office and state power … that is, politicians in power or civil (government) servants. Corruption is worse crime a country can have. Anyone involved in corruption, should lose their post and should be sent to jail for at least 5 years … but if they are grade 15 or above officer (or lower grade officer who done corruption over Rs 5 million) … or politicians in power … than they should get hanged (no question asked), and all their (and their close family) illegally and legally acquired assets should get confiscated, be that asset in country or outside country … plus, criteria of getting caught in corruption should be living beyond means … that is living a life or holding assets, jewellery, cash that they could not justify. There should be no warning or sympathy for corrupts, as their crime harms the country most, more than murderer, terrorists, smugglers, robbers, drug traffickers, … well, any criminal … because it is due to their corruption all crimes flourishes … hence, punishment of corrupts should be most severe … worse than any criminal. Because of their corruption, many people die, suffer, face misery, could not find job and get ill … and obviously, criminals are made. … So, depending on severity of corruption for anyone under grade 15 … all grade 15 involved in corruption and obviously all who hold political posts and involved in corruption, their punishment should be death … SIMPLY DEATH from hanging. Every Friday before JUMA, corrupts caught should be hanged., , Nepotism, discrimination, biases … all is corruption … and guilty of this power misuse should be given punishment similar to financial and other corruptions.
Crime: Anyone who break law, be that person civilian, politician or civil (government) servant … if they cannot do corruption (are no holding civil post or state office) than they are doing crime. It is job of civil (government) servant to find out and punish people doing crime … and obviously politicians in power to enact laws that can punish criminals (as well as corrupts). Criminal laws should have category of severity where punishment could be just warning … to death sentence.
All this is necessary for survival and progress of Pakistan. Democracy or Dictatorship, constitution or not … nothing matters other than punishment of corrupts.
Re: JIT , Mulzam , Nawaz Shareef Haziir ho #ملزم_نوازشریف_حاضرہو
For 99 percent Pakistanis, it does not matter if General rule or Haramkhor Jahannumi joker Thugs who can fool the masses … important is that, who ever rule (actually, it should not be rule, but serve), they have to be honest and if they are not honest than they should get hanged.
Obviously, enforcing law against Pakistani haramkhor thugs is very difficult, but that can only be done by armed forces (hence Generals).
Pakistani army should realise that they are not guard dogs (Hafaziti kuttay) that their job is to secure the border while Haramkhors do corruption within country, loot, plunder and bring death, misery and diseases for many Pakistanis, If armed forces is defender of Pakistan than they should defend the people of Pakistan … be that from outside attackers (who are less dangerous to the country and its people) as well as haramkhor civil (government) servants and Haramkhor politicians holding state power. … Army should make sure that these corrupts, whenever they did corruption and even if they died and their corruption money is with their children, … should get punished with prison or death penalty (if they are still alive) … and especially confiscating their entire wealth (even if they died and their wealth is with their kids).
Army should know that … Pakistan may have around 30 million families … and these haramkhor corrupts have looted Pakistan and accumulated wealth, possibly over $ 1000 billion (actually, alone in Swiss banks, Pakistani haramkhors have accumulated and hold over £$200 million) … that means, these haramkhors have stolen enough wealth that if distributed to Pakistani families than it would come over $33000 per family (at least) … and if these wealth is distributed amongst poorest of the society (around 40 percent Pakistani families) than each family would get over $100000 … or Rs 1 crore …
So … one can see how much haramkhor corrupt thugs have looted and brought misery on Pakistanis.
Only armed forces (hence honest General) can punish them … as FBR, Police, civil intelligence … and other civilian institutions, neither they are strong enough nor honest enough to punish Haramkhors … So … my hope is with armed forces … Or … Awami justice (revolution) what has happened in Cambodia (Pol Pot regime), China, Russia, France, etc … where anyone who is considered living rich .. or from so-called elite class … would get dragged out of their houses and brutally executed (something I hope does not happen, so army should act as soon as possible before the day such revolution happens).
Re: JIT , Mulzam , Nawaz Shareef Haziir ho #ملزم_نوازشریف_حاضرہو
Not really. When generals want the government even 100% Pakistanis don’t want them they still can takeover. In past generals never considered national wish or country’s interest and in future the outcome will never be different than their disastrous past. The only serious matter is now is NS to resign and hand over government to someone sane from his party to complete the tenure of their government. This is the only solution.
You are saying this because you prefer corrupt generals over democracy. Just think logically. NS is a product of a general so are many corrupt politicians created by Mush as he himself was corrupt to core . He ran away from courts of Pakistan, the same courts are now trying NS. Pakistan needs democracy not the failed corrupt dictatorship.
Re: JIT , Mulzam , Nawaz Shareef Haziir ho #ملزم_نوازشریف_حاضرہو
‘Not really’ is for you, so speak for yourself, not for most Pakistanis.
I am not corrupt neither gain (or would like to gain) anything from Haramkhor corrupts (even when I can), so for me, it does not matter if Harmkhors burn in this world as well as rot in hell after death (even if that corrupt is related to me or not). Same is true with most Pakistanis.
To me (and to most Pakistanis … who are not haramkhor pigs), it does not matter how a person got into power and form government (through barrel of a gun or through ballet paper in box). As long as person is honest, that is fine.
Worse is that, unfortunately in Pakistan, no one came to power and formed government through ballet paper (votes). Those who got elected to form government, they mostly used crook means in election and are worst kind of wahshee Haramkhor animals ever existed in this world, be they from PMLN or PPP … and none of them have any respect or decent family background. Most miseries in Pakistan is due to their Nahoosat and Haramkhori. These haramkhors are so cursed and disliked by masses that they could not even move amongst masses without protection, as, if they would do that (move around without protection), people would lynch them and they would end up in their graves same day.
Situation of their security is such that even their movement brings misery and death on people. Remember, when haramkhor Bilawal (who was not even elected) went to inaugurate a department in Civil Hospital Karachi, due to his security, a child got killed.
{Worst is that there was no remorse for the death of the child … and Haramkhor Kamina PPP minister Nisar Khuhro gave his feeling by saying that … Haramkhor Bilawal security was more important to them (than the death of the kami child … or voter).]
If you want to read about the difference between government of so-called dictators and Haramkhor Thugs .. read the article below (one of many) … and remember, the article was written on 22nd November 2010, not when any dictator was in power that one can say that someone is writing to please a dictator. but article was written when Haramkhors of PPP were in power … whose one haramkhor minister made famous statement on TV that … ‘kiya corruption per hamara haq nahi’ … that is different matter that similar statement was made by Hamza Sharif (corruption tou hoti hay aur hoti hee rahy gee) … and Haramkhor Nawaz Sharif that: Corruption her jagah hoti hay, hamay corruption nahi kam dekhna chahiyea (means, if I loot Rs 200 billion out of RS 300 billion … than look at our work done using remaining Rs 100 billion and forget looted Rs 200 billion),.
So … here is article on Haramkhori in Pakistan (one can find 100s of similar writings):
These haramkhors are not only Lanat on Pakistan but entire humanity.
I know that so-called supporters of Haramkhors (actually, they are not supporters, but support them because they got raised on the looted bones thrown to them … or expect to get some looted bone thrown to them by these haramkhors) … they talk a lot against dictatorship and portray that government of Haramakhors is actually democracy … but fact is entirely different.
Here is an article regarding corruption of dictators and Haramkhors … not written during the rule of dictator but written during the rule of Haramkhors … so, one cannot say that boot lickers of dictator wrote them (that is true too, as dictators never had many Haramkhor opportunists licking their boots. Only example of Haramkhor boot lickers promoted by dictators are Z A Bhutto who was licking the boot of Sikandar Mirza and Ayub Khan (whom Bhutto used to call Daddy) … and Nawaz Sharif who was licking the boot of Zia-ul-Haq (whom Zia used to call Son). These two deceptive Haramkhors were so shrewd that they became founder of two worst but successful party of Haramkhors Thugs in Pakistan.
So … when it comes to Haramkhori … read the following article (one of many written in this regard):
Assets of Dictators and Politicians: By Dr Shahid Qureshi
None of the politicians and their subsequent governments have been able to charge and/or convict three dictators General Ayub Khan, Zia ul Haq and Pervez Musharaf for any kind of personal financial corruptions in past 40 years? The whole world is witness to the corruption by few hundred politicians in a short span. That does not mean that all the Generals were innocent.
“The personal wealth of Musharaf’s key generals is estimated at £3.5m a head. And Musharaf himself, who has a combined salary of £700 a month for his jobs as president and army chief, has acquired a real-estate portfolio worth £5m”, according to The Guardian’s report, “The plot to bring back Benazir” published on 21st July 2007. The two bed room flat of Pervez Musharaf is like a servant quarter of Zardari’s multi million £ Surrey Palace (Rockwood Estate) and Nawaz Sharif’s Park Lane flats £ million a room?
On the other hand Zardari – Benzair Bhutto’s assets worth more than $ 2 billion according to (Nawaz Sharif) Saifurahman and according to (NAB) National Accountability Bureau figure was around $1.2bn £ 830m] until 1996. The wheeling and dealing of the Zardari Inc is far more than one can imagine.
Nawaz Sharif’s family business group Ittefaq’s turn over in 1981 was Rs 337 million, but by 1987 it had soared to at least Rs 2,500 million, that is according to the group’s own accounts. Within four years Ittefaq had become one of the wealthiest private industrial groups in Pakistan. These were the accounts of profits and companies which were openly known to public. Shariff family’s declared annual profits from industrial units had increased 1500% from US$ 30 million to staggering US$ 400 million until 1995.
Chaudhry Shujat Hussain and his family also come from a humble back ground and have become billionaires in few years while sticking with General Pervez Musharaf. While looking at the above it is evident that Pakistani politicians have used the military dictators to further their carers. Those who are asking for Musharaf to be brought to be justice must also bring all the beneficiaries to the account too, who have supported military dictators?
It is time for the armed forces of Pakistan to seriously review their performance and actions of past six decades. It is quite clear that both ZA Bhutto and Nawaz Shariff were grown in the military green houses? As a politician there is no comparison of ZA Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif but both have used army generals to progress their carer? Many brilliant officers couldn’t reach at the rank of chief of army staff because Ayub Khan, Zia ul Haq and Pervez Musharaf broke the military rules and norms. By doing that they had harmed their own institution but it is the corrupt politicians who are the winners? Those who were making water pumps worth few million Rupees like Nawaz Sharif and like Zaradri running cinema entertainment business become billionaires, president and prime ministers in matter of years with the backings of the army generals. Not like Bill Gate off course!!!
Pakistan armed forces are a voluntary force any one who full fill right requirement can join the forces and an officer may become a general probably after 30 years of service and couple of dozen exams and interviews. On the other hand no such thing is required for ‘family based politicians’. A doctor’s son cannot become doctor automatically but a politician’s son/daughter can become ruler without any qualification.
According to a senior military officer, ‘when late Mian Sharif wanted to come into politics the concerned General asked for younger son Shabaz Sharif who was considered wise but he replied take ‘pohla’ (simpleton) because who will look after of our business if Shabaz get into politics’. According to a report, “In the early 1980s, after Nawaz Sharif had completed his education his father Mian Muhammad Sharif started him in the business. However, this proved a disaster. As a second option Mian Muhammad Sharif set him up with Pakistani actor Saeed Khan Rangeela to get him into acting (something which Nawaz Sharif wanted). A few days later Saeed Khan Rangeela sent his regrets to Mian Muhammad Sharif saying that his son was too dumb for acting and movie industry. Mian Muhammad Sharif then hired a cricket coaches to train his son for cricket, but his physical fitness was too low for the sport. It is rumoured that by mid-day on his first day at training Nawaz Sharif threw the bat down and left the stadium saying, “This is too tough for me.” As a last resort he paid General Ghulam Jilani Khan a considerable sum of monies to introduce Nawaz Sharif to General Zia-ul-Haq recommending him for a political post, who in turn made Nawaz Sharif the Finance Minister of Punjab. This was the day when the street thugs of Mohni Road had stepped on to becoming the national thugs of Pakistan”.
The day Nawaz Sharif had become Finance Minister; the entire family’s earnings were few million rupees and had only one refinery. From there they went on to: Ittefaq Sugar Mills was set up in 1982, Brothers steel in 1983, Brother’s Textile Mills in 1986, Brothers Sugar Mills Ltd in 1986, Ittefaq Textile units in 2-3 in 1987, Khalid Siraj Textile Mills in 1988, Ramzan Buksh Textiles in 1987, Farooq Barkat (pvt) Ltd in 1985. By the time of Zia ul Haq’s fateful plane crash, Mian Muhammad Sharif’s family was earning a net profit of US$ 3 million, up from a few million rupees. By the end of the decade their net assets were worth more than 6 billion rupees, according to their own admission, nearly US$ 350 million at the time. But this turned out to be small-change when Nawaz Sharif became the Prime Minister.
When Nawaz Sharif became prime minister, the group took a decision to secure project loans from the foreign banks and only working capital was taken from the nationalized commercial banks. The project financing from foreign banks was ostensibly secured against the foreign currency deposits, a number of which were held in benamee accounts, as repeatedly claimed by Interior Minister Naseer Ullah Babar at his press conferences. In 1992 Salman Taseer released an account of Nawaz Sharif’s corruption stating that the family had taken loans of up to 12 billion rupees, which were never paid back. On March 2, 1994, Khalid Siraj, a cousin of Nawaz Sharif claimed that the assets of the seven brothers were valued at Rs 21 billion. These were the accounts of profits and companies which were openly known to public. By 1995 family’s declared annual profits from industrial units had increased 1500% from US$ 30 million to staggering US$ 400 million.
Nawaz Sharif had no connection with the feudal elite. His family moved from Jati Umra near Amirtasr and by 1960 they owned a few modest size factories – iron foundry, ice making, and water pump factory. Nawaz Sharif was appointed as finance minister in 1983 of Punjab. In 1981 the family business group Ittefaq’s turn over was Rs 337 million, but by 1987 it had soared to at least Rs 2,500 million, that is according to the group’s own accounts. Within four years Ittefaq had become one of the wealthiest private industrial groups in Pakistan. One can imagine the miraculous growth in the assets of Billions now.
What clinched the appointment for Nawaz Sharif as PM was a word to the presidency by the then ISI chief Lt. Gen Hamid Gull, that the army believed he was a better choice. General Hamid Gull now regrets his misjudgement. Subsequently the President also dismissed him. Nawaz Sharif’s problem was power: a pathological crass compounded by crass incompetence. Nawaz Sharif also seemed to be an ungrateful person. He did not feel any obligation towards president Ghulam Ishaq Khan, nor did he ever say ‘thank you’ to General Hamid Gull’. The US loathed Hamid Gull as a ‘visionary’ general.
Investing in politics is not bad business at all in Pakistan. According to Asia Week, Rehman Malik, Benzair Bhutto’s close ally produced 200-page report of MNS’s corruption. The secret document was leaked to the London-based Observer newspaper published details of alleged corruption involving the MNS and his family.
According to the report, the Sharif family acquired properties in London through two companies, Nescoll and Nielson Enterprises, registered in the British Virgin Islands and linked to a bank account in Lahore in the name of a fictitious person: Sulman Zia. The four flats in Avendale House in Park Lane are said to be worth at least £ 750,000, which worth millions of pounds keeping in view the current housing market in London in 2009. Not a bad deal!
“I sent Ghaus Ali Shah to gave a lift home to General Musharaf and inform him that he has been deposed in absence said Nawaz`Sharif while addressing a meeting in Manchester in July 2007. How intelligent was to promote engineering corp’s, Kashmiri, General Zia and decorate him with the badges purchased from Sadar Bazar Rawalpindi, MNS must be thinking in his spare time?
On March 2, 2006, a Karachi based English paper reported that Benazir’s assets in Spain ‘unearthed’, The National Accountability Bureau claimed to have unearthed two more offshore companies and a villa in Spain owned by former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto. A spokesman of the bureau said that judicial authorities of Spain had frozen assets of two Sharjah-based companies, Petroline and Tempo Global Gains, as well as their six bank accounts.
The villa worth half million euros, allegedly owned by Ms Bhutto and her three children, Bilawal Zardari, Bakhtawar Zardari and Aseefa Zardari in Playas Del Arenal, Marbella, had also been seized by the High Court of the Valencia province, the NAB claimed. The NAB official said the Petroline company was owned by Ms Bhutto, former FIA director-general Rehman Malik and Hassan Ali Jafferi and was established in 2000.
Benazir Bhutto lectured about the ‘Future of Democracy in Pakistan’ at (IISS) the International Institute of Strategic Studies in London on 20th July 2007. I asked her what you would do when the root causes of spreading of extremism are beyond the borders of Pakistan and there are more than two million afghan refugees living in Pakistan, some are also involved in terrorism according to reports. After the lecture I told her don’t go to Pakistan because your friends will get you eliminated’.
Some analysts are saying that the recent judgement by the Supreme Court of Pakistan fits in with the wishes of US envoy Richard Holbrook ‘the bruiser’? I told Aitizaz Ahassan last year in Islamabad, ‘feudals and reformers can not co exist’. But he is a strange reformer? Although former Yugoslavian leader Slobodan Milosevic, Zia ul Haq, Shah of Iran and Saddam Hussain died in friendly fire but Radovan Karadzic is alive if General Pervez Musharaf needs any advice about the post-operative and aftercare treatment of USA to its friends?
Re: JIT , Mulzam , Nawaz Shareef Haziir ho #ملزم_نوازشریف_حاضرہو
About time we start calling a spade a spade. UAE is right in not taking Sharifs call. It is obvious that Sharif wants Sheikh Muhammad to get something manipulated to favor or save Sharif. UAE rulers cannot afford to get caught in this rubbish. Sharif should know that. He has lived in the mideast long enough.
Sharif has been caught with his pants down, and he will term it an interstellar conspiracy if he has to, in order to keep his pants.
This is nothing more than ‘mukafaat-e-amal’ for this mafia.
Re: JIT , Mulzam , Nawaz Shareef Haziir ho #ملزم_نوازشریف_حاضرہو
did 99% Pakistani told you this in person or mushy type phato general revealed it to u…
an eye opener…exactly 20 years ago, army was told to not wear uniform in oubluc because they might beat the crap out of them…
btw yesterday, at DHA Lahore, people were protesting against thr looting of Gen Kiyani’s Brother and Ex Core Commander Lahore for robbing billions from them
Re: JIT , Mulzam , Nawaz Shareef Haziir ho #ملزم_نوازشریف_حاضرہو
No … I want to see how Kazabs try to change history and their chailay chamchay sell their soul cheaply, buy the lies of Kazab and obey their Lanati Masters
Re: JIT , Mulzam , Nawaz Shareef Haziir ho #ملزم_نوازشریف_حاضرہو
Yeah…one Gwadar is going to bankrupt at least 15 major, long standing commercial ports of UAE. You are right. I dont get it…though we all know the reason why PMLN is concocting all this hogwash.
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ڈی جی آئی ایس پی آر میجر جنرل آصف غفور کا کہنا تھا کہ جے آئی ٹی سپریم کورٹ نے بنائی تھی جس میں شامل آئی ایس آئی اور ایم آئی کے ارکان نے سپریم کورٹ کے ماتحت محنت اور ایمانداری سے کام کیا۔
**میجر جنرل آصف غفور نے کہا کہ جے آئی ٹی کے کام میں فوج کی براہ راست مداخلت نہیں ہے تاہم معاملہ عدالت میں ہے اس لئے اس پر کوئی بات نہیں کی جاسکتی۔
ترجمان پاک فوج نے کہا کہ ملک کی سلامتی کے لیے ہر ضروری اقدام کر رہے ہیں، پاک فوج آئین کی عملداری چاہتی ہے، یہ کہنا کہ آرمی کسی سازش کا حصہ ہے اس سوال کا جواب دینا بھی نہيں بنتا۔
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Re: JIT , Mulzam , Nawaz Shareef Haziir ho #ملزم_نوازشریف_حاضرہو
Well … Gwadar port started on 22 March 2002 … and finished in 2006: Similarly Makran coastal highway (N10) started as part of CPEC in around 2002. … Now think … when everything already happened in 2002-2006 … how anyone can claim and accept that he did in 20016? …
Bacbone of CPEC … Gwadar port … Here is Inauguration of Gwadar port (by President Musharraf):
Here is story of Gwadar port made during time of PPP (at least PPP government was not government of Liars) and highways linking China with Gwadar: ,
Actually, port starting in 2002, got completed in 2006 but first cargo left Gwadar port in 2007.
Here is another story on Gwadar port … watch the clop carefully … as it also tell about CPEC …and how CPEC and Gwadar port was visioned in 2002 …
Note: when Gwadar port (as part of CPEC) started in 2002 … finished in 2006 … how Haramkhor Kazzab started claiming that CPEC started by this Liar? … Even redid inauguration to fool the masses … and corrupt media taking haddi from this Haramkhor kazzab started doing propaganda on behalf of Haramkhor and … mentally retards of Pakistan started buying that.
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sir jee u got that right…not only gawadar but the whole pakistan was created by army generals and Quaid e Azm was s mere puppet…thats why he was left to be dead and later Liaqat Ali Khan was killed..
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This JIT did nothing against Haramkhor and his family of Haramkhors. Only thing JIT did was partially uncovered haramkhori of this family. Soon, faces of other haramkhor families would get uncovered too. InshaAllah.
As for Picture, court has already told government of Haramkhor that they know and have every evidence regarding the source of Picture and its getting public, so they bring that in public. But government of Haramkhor do not want to reveal the source of person and his department who produced the picture, but cry in public to misguide the masses.
