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The cat is out of bag, in London it is stated that alternate leadership plan is finalized and seems like JIT and Judges are going to implement it.
Details will be out in few days…
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There may be plans but i dont see any implementation. This will lead to riots, NS will not sit quite, and if people want to turn country in to another Syria, try reversing things but in any case the plan makers never succeeded in their plans before. I see a very hard hit back from Sharif group this time around. They have shown way too much passiveness to barking dogs, its time to call spade a spade and be ready to get in to a fight.
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These kind of plans create impression of political instability which is main cause of economic disaster!!!
Judges seems to be in this time, they are rejecting all the pleas of PMLN and at same time they are ignoring all wrong doings by JIT..
For example, who authorized JIT to tap phones of PM house!!! For SC it is ok and no big deal!!
But
If IB collects data on JIT members then it is a crime…
Similarly, the watsapp call scandal, well SC sees no wrong in it!!! Whereas, as per law this is totally wrong and any neutrel judge will abolish this JIT then and there…but for the current judges it is ok…
Judges argued that 8 journalists are talkimg against JIT…whereas, they fail to address that 80 journalists have turned them into the spokesperson of JIT and SC and are continously abusing the sitting govt and have already declared sharif family a criminal.
Not limited here, PTI have became the party with JIT when JIT members in its report said blaming pr criticizing Imran Khan/PTI is obstruction in Justice.
This is what going on!!! And if SC thinks it can get away with it and it wont destroy its image then they are living in fools paradise…
If Nawaz Sharif amd his family is guilty, punish them…but conspirating against them because you cannot defeat them in election is not acceptable…
PPP seems to have realized this..
PTI the party with most corrupt members ( both in number and worth) is new Q league…
Re: JIT , Mulzam , Nawaz Shareef Haziir ho #ملزم_نوازشریف_حاضرہو
Well its important to call spade a spade. I am very disappointed in NS to let 4 of his comrades go. Its time to call this BS, its time to attack. One side is barking non stop and NS is like this barbie doll who has lost his tounge. Do few huge Jalsay, show people power, start the election campaign, call out PTI media cell.
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For a person that has no known source of income and is not interested in personal wealth, Imran Khan has increased his wealth in only 5 yrs from Rs 22.9 million to Rs 1.4 billion. He is questioning Nawaz Sharif family who always had wealth even well before ever holding any public office whilst most of PTI consists of people that had become rich overnight.
Supreme Court is behind biased JIT and behind Supreme Court is the Army. So the battle is about self interest and not national interest.
Imran Khan is the Gulen Network of Pakistan.
Re: JIT , Mulzam , Nawaz Shareef Haziir ho #ملزم_نوازشریف_حاضرہو
Waow… what a language used?
Did u follow the panama case? Did u know that 2 most senior judges of the supreme court called him a corrupt and dishonest person and besided that he has no money trail for the london flats.
How in god’s name u can say that sharif is innocent and he shouldn’t resigned? Is everything o right?
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Yes actually I did follow panama case to know enough that its nothing more than a witch hunt. What about the other 3 senior judges who said there is no clear evidence one way or the other. How about the fact tht Sharif family owned and operating factories since 60s and 70s, london flats are owned by companies transferred from one owner to other all outside of this country’s boundries. If there is no money trail in Pakistan than where is the Trail of corruption either? You are saying that transactions happend outside Paksitan by a family that ran businesses before taking office and that too by the Father of NS plus 9 years of exile for entire family need to have trail in Paksitan? Whats wrong with you ?
At best this case is stalemate where there is no trail for purchases and also no trail of corruption. 9 years of Mush didnt find anything. If you can find go hang Sharifs I couldnt care less but these methods of trying to remove NS when he can not be defeated in elections are not acceptable and wont hold.
BTW the two judges seems biased and were over ruled by three others. JIT is failing misreably and if any thing there should be (and will be ) a full bench of 11 judges to decide this and that of others in Panama.
and Yes PM must not and will NOT resign, go kill yourself.
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We have known about the flats for a long time, Imran Khan even launched his political career by holding demonstration outside the London apartments. Nobody had found anything wrong with the flats or its ownership or means of funding. Now 4 years into the PMLN rule these flats have resurfaced again. The courts wants money trail, then it wants money trail for how the money was moved from Pakistan in the 1970’s. How many people can have a money trail for how their dad bought a property 40 to 50 years. Besides people are not obliged in any civil country to keep money trail for more than a few years of the transaction. This seems to be a politically motivated case, and judges by using words like Godfather and Sicilian mafia have badly damaged their reputation. All the principles of justice have been turned on their head in this case. The judges have effectively said that we are not interested in any wrongdoing other than just the PM and he is guilty until be proves his innocence. The real losers in this case will be the judges as they have no moral standing anymore. I wonder how many judges can provide a money trail for how they purchased their property or car and how they paid their children’s educational expenses, does that mean that they are guilty of a crime? Would a new future PM also have to prove money trail of his assets? Would Aleem Khan and Jahangir Tareen also show us money trail of their overseas properties? Can Imran Khan show they money trail of how he become a billionaire in the last few years? Can Musharraf show they money trail of his flat in London?
The whole purpose of Panama case seems to be to get Nawaz because you have not been able to get anything corruption case against him during his terms in office. The people of Pakistan need to decide who leads the country rather than faceless bureaucrats. The biased of JIT and the Judges is becoming more apparent each day.
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Precisely! and I have serious problem with NS now. For 4 years, one dog is barking, non stop barking and NS continues to be passive. For how long! It is NS who braught this upon him. He should have stopped this stray dog years ago, even now he is passive. Its time to get out, show political muscle, get in face of these so called judges. If there is wrong doing, prove it and punish but this back hand attack on democracy and mandate is not going to last.
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The reason he was passive was because Army is behind Imran Khan but after appearance at JIT he attacked the Army directly instead of attacking its stooges.
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Why is army behind Imran khan?
Because of Ns history or do u want to say ke army is also very bad for the country just as Imran?
Bas Nawaz Sharif is very good and that is why everyone is against him to get him removed. In the past 25 years he did so much for Punjab Masha Allah one can see how good Sharif brothers are if u go to hospital without machinery and mice and have schools with poultry firm in it…
Are people getting paid here for being positive about Sharif brothers.
Edit: look what erdogan did for Turkey in 15 years and so called good Sharif who didn’t build single complete hospital or a decent school without poultry firm. Now army and the top court judges and every1 is against Sharif because he has a noorani face ( I heard from few people in Pakistan ke we did vote for ns because he has noor on his face)
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Yeah offcourse some one has to be paid to have different opinion! What NS history? History of trying to bring Army under civilian control, history of saving army from humiliation of Kargil, history or not getting dictation from an Army that has lost every wary? What past 25 years? He only had 4 years in this term, in last two tries he got 2 years each time and than 9 years of exile. Yes PMLN ruled punjab for 15 years or so, and thats why Punjab is head and shoulders better than any other province. Thats why they get vote. Things get better with stability.
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i remember last time when Rehman Malik’s report was submitted in front of Judges they laughed at it and iam not wrong they put it in the dustbin…
wonder why this report is so vital for JIT…also tells about the quality of the evidences JIT have…
seems like JIT wants to do media trial and win its case based on statements…
so far, whatever being produced by the JIT and what Dr Qayamat Masood says ( because he changes his claim every other day, from JIT going slaughter Sharif till JIT being bought to again JIT is impartial and will deliver…)tells what jit have got…
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It is only due to following the great wisdom of 12 pass intellectuals , The JIT gone very low and now perhaps deliberately or lake of experience of such a great investigation , they are not performing well in front of the Thugs
Panama issue is forgotten and JIT is bigger issue now
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Thugs successfully made the JIT controversial , Nothing left in JIT report even if true
JIT accountability a farce, says PM Nawaz
’جے آئی ٹی ہمارے ذاتی کاروبار کو کھنگال رہی ہے‘](’جے آئی ٹی ہمارے ذاتی کاروبار کو کھنگال رہی ہے‘ - BBC News اردو)
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U didn’t say anything about the hospitals without machinery and schools with poultry firm in it. If u find that a progress which PMLN did for 25 years in Punjab.
What about ALL the other political figures in foreign countries who resigned when their name appeared in Panama. Or do u find this also ok that PM and his family evades income/property tax Or is this ok for pakistani leaders? This rule is only applied for first world countries and not 3d world.
Sorry, tell me 1 1st world country where a sitting PM can lie to his folk about his property and didn’t pay income tax and the people will salute him???
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Army wants to be the undisputed ruler of the country and to maintain its privileged position in the country, it does not want the power to rest with the electorate.
Army has ruled the country for much of its existence and its rule has been a disaster for the country. The country is no position to face new adventurism and instability. The world has moved on and we are still stuck in the same quagmire. Army has tried to undermine every civilian government as a result the country has suffered.
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Are we talking about Panama or Hospitals, Are we investigating corruption or governance, Can you pick a story to stick ? What has hospitals to do with bloody Panama. It seems like you dont like NS and you want some reasaon, some way to disqualify. Let me make it easy for you, Hospitals/Schools in misreable conditions whether in Punjab or KPK or Sindh are failures of politicians and Army rulers, and there is recourse to it and its called Election, Not some bloody JIT.
Now lets talk about JIT, Where in the hell is NS name in Panama? There are companies in Pananma owned by his sons who belong to a family that owned businesses since 70s, before they tool any office. Where is proof of any corruption at all ? At the time oif Nationalization, many businessmen moved money abraod like any where in 70s but Where is proof it was looted money and again where is NS name in Panama.
The other political figures were NAMED in Panama, NS is not, learn the difference. Grown / Adult sons are reason to disqualify some one otherwise DISQUALIFY barking zani Niaze, Tareen badtreen, malik who are actually named.
What lies are you talking about? Where are the lies, He DOES NOT own the properties in London, his Adult Childern does, if that is the problem, ask them where the money came, as they are showing businesses from 70s, there is no issue there.
What Income Tax, is this what you mean https://www.dawn.com/news/1258906
When didnt NS paid taxes, in 1992, did you check what his companies paid. Learn differences. The JIT is a farce, is a bull****, is an effort to put life in a dead PTI. There will never EVER be a conviction on this, there is no legal argument. Its time for PMLN to call this Farce a Farce.
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I do not know why so many people are missing the point of JIT. Fact is that, JIT is not going to decide fate of NS, neither, they would play any part in coming judgement. If anyone who read the verdict of SC, would have known this, but seems Pakistani politicians, Lawyers on TV and most Anchors, they are missing the point. Since decision time is closing, let me try to explain what really happening.
From all the hearings in SC, bench of 5 SC Judges developed opinion that NS is Liar, Corrupt, Dishonest, Criminal and habitually misuse authority entrusted to him. From their observation, they also believe that flats in question (disclosed in Panama Leaks) are bought from corruption money. Facing their observation and developed opinion from the hearings in SC, 2 judges gave their verdict while 3 judges decided that further investigation should be done before they give their verdict.
For further investigation they formed JIT and gave them specific task. Task given to JIT is not about finding that NS is guilty or not, as Judges already came to conclusion that NS is guilty. Task given to JIT is a chance for NS and his family to come clean, that is, to prove that flats bought are not from corruption money, so that, what judges concluded an be changed. In other words, JIT is a chance for NS and his family to come clean regarding purchase of the flat … that is, to give proof that flat was purchased from honest money and not corruption money.
So, it was/is interest of NS and his cubs to give proper convincing money trail, else they will find themselves guilty. Sorry that I used the word cubs for NS kids, as NS, his family and supporters think he is Lion, a wahshee darnindah, and kids of wahshee darindah are called cubs, right?),
NS should know that it is not job of JIT to decide if NS is guilty or not. JIT would only pass the information NS and his family would give, or would say that they gave no information. Judgement would come from Judges, simple as that.
Now, from their observation and opinion they formed (well whole nation formed), that NS is guilty, he stole money from Pakistan, transferred them illegally abroad and bought those flats, than if NS and his cubs could not give convincing money trail with proof to JIT that JIT could pass to judges, judgement of 3 remaining judges on the bench would be same as what 2 judges already gave.
We (Pakistani nation) and judges also know that to give money trail is easy. For instance, if NS and his cubs got these flats in 2006 along with company in Panama, than NS could easily give signed transfer, purchase and ownership deeds of flats and company dated 2006 to JIT so that they can hand that over to judges.
Obviously, they could not say that they do not have deeds of the flats. Actually, if they do not have then they should tell, than I can become squatter in the flats and claim that these flats are mine. In that case, if NS and his cubs do not come out with ownership deeds than those flats could become mine, but I am sure NS and cubs would go to court with paper proofs that the flats are theirs (they are the lawful owners of the flats), and would try to evict me. Papers proving their lawful ownership would also say, since when they became owner and before them who was the owner. So, what they can do is, simply show same papers to Pakistani courts, that would determine when NS and his cubs became owner, and that, who was owner before them, and that who were earlier owners (until time, those flats were built).
But obviously, NS could not do that of flats are bought in early 1990s, as that would prove that NS are corrupt.
Another thing NS and his Cubs could not understand is that, when kids of company manager show possession huge assets than owner of the company have every right to believe that manager stole money from company, and thus could ask the manager where his kids got the money for assets .. even report to police and then police would do interrogation of Manager and kids, to find origin of kids assets. If Manager answer is that, since assets belong to kids and not him, owner have no right to ask, than that is not only wrong but illogical. If NS and his cubs could understand that then they would have realised why they are asked about the money trail.
Anyhow, in the end: It seems, NS and his cubs are not cooperating with JIT … so, JIT would tell the judges that NS and his cubs did not cooperated neither gave money trail. That is all.
Now, with this JIT statement, judgement would be obvious, that is, what judges have already mentioned in their observation and opinion, that is …
NS is Liar, Corrupt, Dishonest, Criminal and habitually misuse authority entrusted to him, and that the flats in question (disclosed in Panama Leaks) are bought from corruption money that was sent to west in illegal ways. We have to know that 2 out of 5 judges have already gave their verdict, and need to give same verdict by one more judge means NS is out, though it seems, this time, all 3 judges would endorse the verdict given by 2 senior judges … and the verdict result would be sane from all 5 Judges.
So … hard luck for Wahshee darinda and his cubs … I mean Lion of Raiwand and cubs 
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wow, what a crock of crap! stay clear of legal field genius. you are right about one thing though , JIT wont decide NS fate, let me add even sc wont decide it. the case is dead, was dead and now its really really dead because there is no case. actually, sharif family doesnt need to give one iota of details about businesses from 70s, they are choosing to do so to make jit look stupid and lose any legal basis and no SC didnt decide any thing, if you like to think that but there cant be anything about some one whose name isnt in panama and flats owned is knowledge for years using their own personal / business money. if there is a corru[ption prove it. becareful for waht you ask for, money trail for businesses is there for sharifs, will zani murdood khan, tareens and retards like those will have it as well ?
finally, you have totally missed the case and legal basis, i suggest educate yourself better.