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**you're always most welcome Nadia. it sure is always great to have serious discussions on such issues with people who share the interests. and yeah, the movie jinnah was produced by Akbar Ahmed. i wonder if you can find it easily in canada or us. even in pakistan it's rarely available, i wonder why. but, if you want it and have difficulty finding it let me know and i'll try finding it for you here. how do you like stanley wolpert's work so far?
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Thank you, Haris. i really appreciate the offer. i still haven't tried my local video stores, i'll try them out for a few days - Insha'Allah maybe one of them has it. i'll keep my fingers crossed.
Re: Wolpert's book - i haven't finished it yet. Am only still on page 120, i think. i'm going slow :o The book is every bit as good as you and Sambrialian told me it was. i am so glad i took both of your's advice. i am drawn in by how Wolpert describes the different phases in Jinnah's life - Delhi, Bombay, Lucknow, Lahore, Calcutta, Amritsar, London. Now i begin to understand how Jinnah gradually became immensely frustrated because he was always (i think) wedged in between the demands of the British-leaning Muslim League (with people like Sir Fazl-i-Hussain) versus Congress (with people like Gandhiji and Nehru) versus the Hindu Mahasabha. He was always trying to get them all to agree on one proposal or another, but petty differences between them all hindered this. Isn't it tragic. India could have become independent far earlier, as Wolpert hinted in a few places, had Jinnah's reforms and demands to the viceroys been accepted. It's really an interesting, engrossing book. Thank you so much for recommending it to me.
BrownEyes_F,
i am glad you relogged on after all this time. i appreciate your sharing your thoughts in this thread. Thank you 
>>Up until my bachelor’s degree i wasnt really sure of the making of Pakistan other than the view presented in all school books. Muslims leaders are good and the British and Hindus were bad.<<
You are right. i think it’s important to go beyond what we are told from our school books - not because the books might contain inaccuracies (although that is possible) but also if you do the independent research on your own, i think you gain a deeper appreciation for the events and individuals. That appreciation lasts a lifetime whereas i think if i were to rely on others to teach me this issue, then my appreciation wouldn’t last as long or be as sincere than if i do it on my own.
Re: the Muslim League… up until around 1935, i think the Muslim League was more detrimental than helpful towards the cause of Muslims in India. i think SOME Muslim members of the upper membership of the League were more concerned with retaining their British titles and privileges, rather than selflessly working towards communal harmony. How many times did poor Jinnah stress for Hindu-Muslim unity. You know when he went to London briefly, hoping to work in the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council ? He was driven to leave politics in India by the failures of the Muslim League, Congress and Mahasabha to reconcile their petty differences for the greater good of all. It’s pretty disappointing.
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Not at all There were no spelling mistakes, and you didn’t go over the top at all whatsoever. i enjoyed reading your comments. Please DO share more on this, or any other, subject if you feel comfortable doing so. i look forward to seeing you participate more Insha’Allah.